Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[drogulus]

What does this even mean?  What is the wrong side and what is the right side?

You get to decide.

[Ken B]

You get to decide.

That's fortunate, since it seems cruel to take what you at face value.

[drogulus]

That's fortunate, since it seems cruel to take what you at face value.

     What I said was that wealth didn't make anyone wrong. What makes any position right is always a question of how wide it construes interests. If a poor person wants to feed themselves at the expense of starving the other poor that's no better than what some rich do from a bomber altitude (the higher you go, the more undeserving the beneficiaries).

     

[Todd]

In the least surprising news story of the year, Hillary Clinton announced her candidacy to be President of the United States of America.  Now, will the Democrats make her fight for the candidacy, or will they simply anoint her?

[snyprrr]

voting is for the sheep

any Republican = will continue verbatim the Bush/Clinton/Obama agenda

any Democrat = will continue verbatim the Bush/Clinton/Obama agenda

any other = will have an ooops! accident if they don't continue verbatim with the Bush/Clinton/Obama agenda (21)

You rejected The LORD at Sinai... this is what you get 0:)

[Todd]

snyprrr, you are too jaded.  2016 will be a very important election, with very different consequences depending on who wins.  I'll put it this way: You get to choose which gets higher priority, the next-gen bomber or the sixth-gen fighter.

[XB-70 Valkyrie]

voting is for the sheep

BAAAA BAAA BAAAA! Like, wouldn't it be, like, cool if, like, someone came out with like, an app that would let you vote from your iPhone!? Maybe the next iPhone, will have, like this, um capability? Like, I think I'll get in line at the Apple store right now BAAAA BAAAA BAAAAA!

Like, the iPhone 7 comes out next month. Then when all my friends still have the old one I'm all, like, you know "Um hullo, like April 2015 called! It wants its cellphone back, loser!"

[XB-70 Valkyrie]

Seriously though, it is too soon to start re-using my old More trees! Less Bush! bumper sticker?

[snyprrr]

snyprrr, you are too jaded.  2016 will be a very important election, with very different consequences depending on who wins.  I'll put it this way: You get to choose which gets higher priority, the next-gen bomber or the sixth-gen fighter.

One side I call The Werewolves

The other side I call The Vampires

I'M STILL THE FOOD FOR BOTH!!


Come on, now,... you can't be calling anyone jaded after Bush-Clinton-Obama. It's now been proven who are the 'waiting in the wings'- yea, you have the choice to vote for the ones THEY approved for you to vote for. Wow, Hillary or Jeb... wow, no, I'm the one who's jaded? You give me these choices and tell me I'M the problem?

snyprrr's Grande Warning: If you ever... EVER... find a politician that you fall head over heels for, guess what?,... you've probably been spoon fed someone who has been groomed from birth to pull the wool over your eyes... could someone count O's lies, for instance(s)? ("this is what I believe 2006" vs "this is what I believe 2012"- oh, yea, right, he "evolved" lol) Or Bush- I don't care, you know I believe they all belong to the SAME FLIPPIN' BIRD WITH TWO FLIPPIN WINGS-

WHEN WILL YOU ALL RECOGNIZE THAT THE TWO FLIPPIN WIIIIINGS ARE FLIPPIN ATTACHED TO THE SAME FLIPPIN BIRRRRRD??!!??!!??!!??!

FUCK- when in flippin history of the universe has there EVER been a flippin GTWO HEADED BIRD???

NEVER!!!!!!!!!!

Communo-Capalistic Thalmoodism, with a "liberal" dose of Goldsterinian fear mongering and narco-vaccino-gee-em-oh!meohmy!!-



Oh, but better "vote" for Ted Cruz, whose(correct?) wife works for which bank?

Or Rand Paul who would succumb to business-as-usual quickern' you can say Iwasagainstitbefore I was for it

eLIZ wARREN??  Really, my naughty substitute teacher? She won't be intimidated by a glory hole criminal influences, duped like the wide eyed milf in training that she is??


PLEASE.




PLEASE.



Expose yourselves- those of you on this forum who actually believe ANY OF THESE CRITTERS OF THE LAST 20 YEARS has been anything but the ensconced families of yore (wasn't Clinton's great great great mayor of NYC or something?) who have managed to raise up generations (of the Bill and W generation- you flippin 60s hippie munbys who now control everyflippin thing) HarperBlair...etcetcetc...all the same

all lock step

Bammy has rescinded how many of W's agendas??? How many??? Zero you say??? Bammy seems to be doing exactly as Bush you say?? Got you confused, you say? How can this be?





With the knee jerk reactionism - "if you don't love 'Murica than yer a Muzzy terrist" either/or----- Hegelian Dialectic at work since the 60s and before .....1899.....



would you vote for adolf today?




I bet y'all would









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thanks Todd, now in your shillery you've managed to waste a good morning----- Buuuuuueller!!!!!!-----

why do I think you believe as I that only crooks rule over us by our own manufactured consent?    Birch+Chomsky=Truth???loloolololooololl



'dolfy was a socialist, right? mother hen to her chilluns? momma knows best... cue Roger Waters Rant...




So, yea, I'll "vote" for Roger Waters then.

































i'M NOT EEEVEN GOING TO READ OVER THIS POST TO SEE IF IT MAKES ANY SENSE (see? I didn't even look to see if Locks were on)- I consider it your punishment for awakening me from my thousands year slumber.

Release the LaRouche!

[Karl Henning]

i'M NOT EEEVEN GOING TO READ OVER THIS POST TO SEE IF IT MAKES ANY SENSE

(* pretends not to check his watch *)

[Todd]

Looks like snyprrr's rant had an effect on Marco Rubio, who just joined the fray.  He's the first of at least two Spanish speakers likely to run this year.  Angling for the Veep job, maybe?  Or just a warm up for 2020, 2024, 2028, and 2032?

[Karl Henning]

A lot of money flowing in for Ted Cruz.  Good, bad, or indifferent for the GOP's chances?

[Gurn Blanston]

Unsurprisingly, I agree with most of Snipper's rant. I mean; who can argue with that?

The real issue as I see it is that the entrenched interests are freaking entrenched. My voting or not voting for them ain't gonna make the slightest bit of difference. They let the People have Obama as an object lesson; point of lesson? It doesn't make a damn who you vote for, it is what we say it is and no one is going to change it.

It is actually all just one multi-headed beast, and no matter which head you vote for, you still get the same beast.

I'm not sure, but I think I just said exactly the same thing Snips said. Scary, ain't it?   

[Todd]

A lot of money flowing in for Ted Cruz.  Good, bad, or indifferent for the GOP's chances?

Irrelevant.  If Cruz is telling the truth that 90%+ came from small donors, then it won't matter.  Bush, if he runs, will vacuum up the big donor money, and then there's the roughly $900 million that the Kochs have reportedly set aside for the election.  $4 million?  Literally a drop in the proverbial bucket.  (And check out Hillary's numbers when they are reported.) 

[Todd]

I'm not sure, but I think I just said exactly the same thing Snips said. Scary, ain't it?

Then join me, won't you, in voting for a true independent candidate.

[Karl Henning]

The real issue as I see it is that the entrenched interests are freaking entrenched.

Aye.

Irrelevant.  If Cruz is telling the truth that 90%+ came from small donors, then it won't matter.  Bush, if he runs, will vacuum up the big donor money, and then there's the roughly $900 million that the Kochs have reportedly set aside for the election.  $4 million?  Literally a drop in the proverbial bucket.  (And check out Hillary's numbers.) 

The figure I saw was $31 million, but that may not much alter your point.

[Todd]

The figure I saw was $31 million, but that may not much alter your point.

July is reporting period, so everyone will have a better idea of how much the candidates have raised.  But what about the Super PAC money?  Should we start a pool on what the 2016 election costs?  $1 billion?  $2 billion?  $3 billion?  More?  Fat times for local TV stations ahead.

[Phrygian]

My youngest sister is now going to be involved in the "elect Hillary" campaign at the next Presidential election.  She has a Masters in US Studies from Sydney University and has networked through the university US Studies Centre (visiting diplomats, academics and business people from the US) and is a permanent member of the university alumni.  Recently she was over in the US on a small stipend (she had taken leave from her teaching position at another university) for the "G'day USA" program in California.  My sister seems to think Hillary is good for America, feminism and women in general, but I remain unconvinced.

We met some charming Americans in Amsterdam a couple of weeks ago and joined them for dinner.  That evening I learned in no uncertain terms what some Americans think of Hillary Clinton!! 

[Todd]

That evening I learned in no uncertain terms what some Americans think of Hillary Clinton!!

Mrs Clinton is an at least modestly divisive figure.

[Gurn Blanston]

Then join me, won't you, in voting for a true independent candidate.

I can do that... +1