Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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lisa needs braces

Quote from: Ken B on May 30, 2015, 07:42:14 PM
Well since your charge goes way beyond that, this seems an odd question. You talked about republicans in general, and now you silently amed to neo-cons.
But yes you will always get a dismissive response from me to "it's the Jewzzzzzzz".

When I hear Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham et al (and Romney last election) talk foreign policy, the groveling to Sheldon Adelson is pretty plain. Here is Chris Mathews talking about the "piggish" money pushing hawkish foreign policy positions. Guess what...he's talking about Jewish billionares like Sheldon Adelson and Norman Breman:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/10/us/billionaire-lifts-marco-rubio-politically-and-personally.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYyZBSOsg1E

Yea Mathews dare not name names but who else could he possibly be talking about?

Ken B

Quote from: -abe- on May 30, 2015, 08:06:43 PM
When I hear Marco Rubio, Jeb Bush, Lindsey Graham et al (and Romney last election) talk foreign policy, the groveling to Sheldon Adelson is pretty plain. Here is Chris Mathews talking about the "piggish" money pushing hawkish foreign policy positions. Guess what...he's talking about Jewish billionares like Sheldon Adelson and Norman Breman:

http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/10/us/billionaire-lifts-marco-rubio-politically-and-personally.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYyZBSOsg1E

Yea Mathews dare not name names but who else could he possibly be talking about?

"Pssst, if you decode Chris Mathews you learn the real truth" must set some sort of new record for unlikely.

lisa needs braces

Hey Ken B, do you think Sheldon Adelson and Norman Breman are a pernicious influence or do you think their encouragement and sponsorship of hawkish republicans is something that's benign?


Ken B

https://mobile.twitter.com/exjon/status/605138666416041984

Just in case anyone thought either party had principles here.
The explanation is simple enough. The data might help the president avoid an embarassment. So if your part is in the white house you support the bill. Fit under Bush, fits under Obama.


lisa needs braces

Quote from: Ken B on May 31, 2015, 05:27:49 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/exjon/status/605138666416041984

Just in case anyone thought either party had principles here.
The explanation is simple enough. The data might help the president avoid an embarassment. So if your part is in the white house you support the bill. Fit under Bush, fits under Obama.

pls respond to my above post

thx

Pat B

Quote from: Ken B on May 31, 2015, 05:27:49 PM
https://mobile.twitter.com/exjon/status/605138666416041984

Just in case anyone thought either party had principles here.
The explanation is simple enough. The data might help the president avoid an embarassment. So if your part is in the white house you support the bill. Fit under Bush, fits under Obama.

"I'm so old, I remember when the @SenateDems opposed the Patriot Act."

WTF? That bill passed the Senate 98-1. The 1 was Feingold, the abstention was Landrieu, neither of whom are currently in the Senate. Feingold continued to oppose it in 2009.

Maybe he should have written, "I'm so old, my memory is failing."

Todd

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Gurn Blanston

I took this quiz that was linked on the Lindsey Graham page from Todd. I seem to be a communist... :D  No, not really, but it is current and interesting.

http://www.isidewith.com/political-quiz?

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Todd

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 01, 2015, 08:22:56 AMI took this quiz that was linked on the Lindsey Graham page from Todd.



Er, um, the quiz lists Arnold Schwarzenegger as a potential presidential candidate.  I believe the quiz might be worthless. 

(My favorite question: Should the U.S. continue NSA surveillance of its allies?)
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Todd on June 01, 2015, 08:50:07 AM


Er, um, the quiz lists Arnold Schwarzenegger as a potential presidential candidate.  I believe the quiz might be worthless. 

(My favorite question: Should the U.S. continue NSA surveillance of its allies?)

All quizzes are worthless. Fun to see what their analysis is. I had them sort of confused, if you can imagine that!  0:)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 01, 2015, 10:10:23 AMI had them sort of confused, if you can imagine that!



I scored highest as a Green, despite saying yes to fracking and offshore drilling and no to GMO labelling, so I'm a bit confused as to how their scoring system works.  I guess a yes for subsidies for wind farms, a no to the death penalty, and a wimpy stance on immigration grants one a Green card. 

(It would be nice if whoever created the test could use the correct possessive form for citizens'.) 
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Todd on June 01, 2015, 11:12:44 AM


I scored highest as a Green, despite saying yes to fracking and offshore drilling and no to GMO labelling, so I'm a bit confused as to how their scoring system works.  I guess a yes for subsidies for wind farms, a no to the death penalty, and a wimpy stance on immigration grants one a Green card. 

(It would be nice if whoever created the test could use the correct possessive form for citizens'.)

I scored highest as a Libertarian & Green based on my domestic policy ideas, but my foreign policy stance was 95% Republican, and they finally decided I must be a Democrat, sort of an average, I suppose.

Using correct possessives probably knocks you right out of the quiz writing profession, since your talents would be wasted. :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on June 01, 2015, 11:23:55 AM
I scored highest as a Libertarian & Green based on my domestic policy ideas, but my foreign policy stance was 95% Republican, and they finally decided I must be a Democrat, sort of an average, I suppose.

Using correct possessives probably knocks you right out of the quiz writing profession, since your talents would be wasted. :)

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This is what the test makers had to say about me:  Your political beliefs would be considered moderately Right-Wing Libertarian on an ideological scale, meaning you tend to support policies that promote free market capitalism and smaller government.

I can live with that.

;)

Ken B

I show up as Libertarian, no surprise, and more Green than Democrat. I think I score a lot of L points for my hardline high importance answers on drugs, drug testing welfare recipients(strong no) , whatever speech they wanted to ban, and opposition to subsidies of all sorts.
They recommend I vote for Rand Paul. No thanks. I like him in the senate. Keep him there.

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http://www.nytimes.com/2015/06/04/us/politics/jeb-bush-taking-his-time-tests-the-legal-definition-of-candidate.html

QuoteThe issue is not one of mere semantics. If Mr. Bush did declare that he is running, it would bring a raft of election restrictions, including a limit of $2,700 on contributions, and a ban on “coordinating” with a “super PAC” he has used to raise money
In an appearance Sunday on CBS’s “Face the Nation,” the host, Bob Schieffer, asked Mr. Bush bluntly whether he was violating the law by not declaring himself a candidate for the White House.
Mr. Bush did not waver. “Look, I hope I — I hope I run, to be honest with you,” he said. “I would like to run. But I haven’t made the decision.”
Last month, he slipped up for a moment, telling reporters in Nevada, “I am running for president in 2016.” He quickly corrected himself, adding “if I run.”
In his appearance at $25,000-a-head fund-raisers in Washington, New York and elsewhere, Mr. Bush and his advisers are using what are technically considered outside groups — two political action committees, both called Right to Rise — to take in the money, rather than creating an official campaign organization to do it.
Last week, two campaign watchdog groups, Democracy 21 and the Campaign Legal Center, called on the Justice Department to appoint a special counsel to investigate whether Mr. Bush had broken election law by evading restrictions on candidates.
...
“I really like campaigning,” Mr. Bush told businessmen in Portsmouth, N.H., last month, before quickly adding, “I’m not a candidate.”
...
“Let me be clear,” he said Tuesday at an event in Orlando, Fla. “If I run, if I’m a candidate — and that decision is going to be coming real soon — my intention is to run on my record and my ideas and try to win the presidency.“
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Quote from: karlhenning on June 03, 2015, 04:04:58 AM
". . . my intention would be to run on my record . . . ."
If I get enough votes, I might run
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