Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

Brian · January 27, 2016, 07:25:11 PM

Quote from: Todd on January 27, 2016, 07:08:06 PM
Finally, an unbiased analysis.

Well, Noam might be exaggerating, but if the GOP wins this year, I'd say the odds that the sun devours us all in a galaxy-melting tempest of fire is fair-to-middlin'.

drogulus · January 27, 2016, 07:32:37 PM

Damn the Repubs for making Chomsky right about something!

A bunch of Florida mayors asked to meet with Jeb and Rubio to get their support for taking climate change more seriously. It seems their region of southeast Florida is going under water at an alarming rate. The liberal hoax is strong there. Rubio has a climate position which doesn't exactly say political operatives are better scientists than scientists are, but doesn't exactly say not that, either.

drogulus · January 28, 2016, 05:32:01 AM

One more observation on Trump/Fox is that it looks like Trump is unofficially a third party candidate. What extinction are we counting down towards?

How unlikely is this?...Repubs nominate Cruz, Trump founds an America First party and gets on the ballot everywhere, Hillary is exposed as a psychopathic lesbian murderer (not a big negative, but still...), Sanders is nominated, Bloomberg runs as a centrist......

Todd · January 28, 2016, 05:43:13 AM

Quote from: drogulus on January 28, 2016, 05:32:01 AM
One more observation on Trump/Fox is that it looks like Trump is unofficially a third party candidate. What extinction are we counting down towards?

America's. This is the most important election ever, or a watershed, or something like that.

(poco) Sforzando · January 28, 2016, 09:02:10 AM

Quote from: Todd on January 28, 2016, 05:43:13 AM

America's. This is the most important election ever, or a watershed, or something like that.

What, again?

drogulus · January 28, 2016, 09:19:44 AM

I think the Trump constituency will follow him where he goes (less true for Sanders IMO). While GOPsters are afraid of Fox, Trump isn't. That makes him not a GOP, which in his "heart" he never was.

Like Bonaparte he'll crown himself. If the GOPs want a piece he'll give it them at a price. It's like "everything you'll have will come from me". Can GOPS make a deal with Dems to fight him? What could they offer? Nonono, it's the Dems who'll deal. They still know how, and as the party of government it'll be in their interest.

Karl Henning · January 28, 2016, 09:26:11 AM

Quote from: drogulus on January 28, 2016, 09:19:44 AM
I think the Trump constituency will follow him where he goes (less true for Sanders IMO).

I think you're right, in part because those who are enthusiastic for Sanders are not, as a rule, irrational

Todd · January 28, 2016, 11:16:53 AM

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on January 28, 2016, 09:02:10 AM
What, again?

The end is nigh, or at least potentially nigh. Check out the Chomsky piece.

Karl Henning · January 28, 2016, 12:02:39 PM

I thought we'd had an end of Chomsky.

Sergeant Rock · January 28, 2016, 12:07:48 PM

Quote from: drogulus on January 28, 2016, 05:32:01 AMHillary is exposed as a psychopathic lesbian murderer (not a big negative, but still...)

Sarge

Todd · January 28, 2016, 12:09:50 PM

Quote from: karlhenning on January 28, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
I thought we'd had an end of Chomsky.

Not yet, though we did hit Peak Chomsky in the 90s.

Eli · January 29, 2016, 04:50:57 PM

I think everyone should vote for Sanders. If anything else, we'll get to see Larry David imitate him for the next for years.

knight66 · January 30, 2016, 09:32:26 AM

Quote from: karlhenning on January 28, 2016, 12:02:39 PM
I thought we'd had an end of Chomsky.

You are getting confused with Fukuyama; mind you, he has not come to an end of himself either.

Mike

Todd · February 01, 2016, 06:11:59 PM

He didn't even wait until all the votes were counted.

Brian · February 01, 2016, 06:40:54 PM

Quote from: Todd on February 01, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
He didn't even wait until all the votes were counted.

Nor has Mike Huckabee, also gone. I suppose Rick Santorum will also call it quits tonight.

(poco) Sforzando · February 01, 2016, 06:42:13 PM

Quote from: Todd on February 01, 2016, 06:11:59 PM
He didn't even wait until all the votes were counted.

And he was doing so well.

drogulus · February 01, 2016, 06:50:58 PM

Rubio is making a victory speech now. It's Cruz 28%, Trump 24%, Rubio 23% as it now stands.

Hillary 50%, Bernie 49%........TCTC

Karl Henning · February 02, 2016, 01:37:35 AM

Even if Bernie does not "win," this showing is a triumph.

knight66 · February 02, 2016, 04:15:38 AM

Can someone explain to me please? The analysis on radio in the UK today was suggesting that we have seen the effective end of Trump. I don't understand, surely the next primaries might swing in a different direction?

Mike

Karl Henning · February 02, 2016, 04:21:25 AM

Quote from: knight66 on February 02, 2016, 04:15:38 AM
Can someone explain to me please? The analysis on radio in the UK today was suggesting that we have seen the effective end of Trump. I don't understand, surely the next primaries might swing in a different direction?

Mike

"The end of El Tupé" is certainly overstating the case; even granting that he had been crowing about winning in Iowa, his second-place showing is strong. And he's more nearly a "local boy" for the next primary in New Hampshire, which may play to his advantage. He also has plenty of money, so he can be part of the circus for as long as he chooses.

I'm apt to agree that his withdrawal from the race is a matter of time; but (as one talking head put it this morning) his support is real, it's just not enough. The primaries after New Hampshire will clarify his fate, I should say.