Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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Florestan

Quote from: orfeo on April 22, 2016, 02:30:53 AM
Next you'll be telling me that it's not fair that employment requires attendance.

I really don´t get this analogy. Are we the people the employees of the powers that be? And if voting is analogous to being employed, where are our paychecks for turning out? 
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2016, 03:11:02 AM
I really don´t get this analogy. Are we the people the employees of the powers that be? And if voting is analogous to being employed, where are our paychecks for turning out?

Woody Allen: "80 percent of life is showing up."
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Karl Henning

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on April 22, 2016, 03:15:18 AM
Woody Allen: "80 percent of life is showing up."

Frank Zappa: "Democracy only works if you participate in it."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: karlhenning on April 22, 2016, 03:18:35 AM
Frank Zappa: "Democracy only works if you participate in it."

Is this guy the same as that Frank Zappa who said that "politics is the entertainment branch of industry" and that "the United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced"?
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on April 22, 2016, 03:26:35 AM
Is this guy the same as that Frank Zappa who said that "politics is the entertainment branch of industry" and that "the United States is a nation of laws: badly written and randomly enforced"?

Bet it was;  shouldn't surprise me that he believed the only way to repair that was, participating in democracy.

(The laws badly written and randomly enforced remark somehow strikes me as a possible paraphrase of something someone else had said/written;  but we all do that, of course.)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: karlhenning on April 22, 2016, 03:29:46 AM
Bet it was;  shouldn't surprise me that he believed the only way to repair that was, participating in democracy.

It would be interesting to know when he said those things, because one might then conclude that, if after so many repairs the engine is still broke and needs yet more repairs, one might as well ask for a refund / replacement.  :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: karlhenning on April 22, 2016, 03:18:35 AM
Frank Zappa: "Democracy only works if you participate in it."

Indeed. When John Boehner was Speaker of the House, I sometimes sent him emails telling him to grow up and stop behaving like a three-year-old. My efforts bore fruit, as he started behaving like a two-year-old.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Florestan

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on April 22, 2016, 03:44:32 AM
Indeed. When John Boehner was Speaker of the House, I sometimes sent him emails telling him to grow up and stop behaving like a three-year-old. My efforts bore fruit, as he started behaving like a two-year-old.

:laugh:
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

André

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on April 22, 2016, 03:44:32 AM
Indeed. When John Boehner was Speaker of the House, I sometimes sent him emails telling him to grow up and stop behaving like a three-year-old. My efforts bore fruit, as he started behaving like a two-year-old.

:laugh:

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on April 22, 2016, 03:29:46 AM
Bet it was;  shouldn't surprise me that he believed the only way to repair that was, participating in democracy.

(The laws badly written and randomly enforced remark somehow strikes me as a possible paraphrase of something someone else had said/written;  but we all do that, of course.)

Hey, I know, let's make Illegal Aliens Citizen, or not, but, hey, let's let them vote in this... err,humm...."democracy".... ANY idiot can "vote".... great.... now, let's just figure out, as (was it?) Jefferson pointed out that thing about voting for the candidate who promises the most LARGESSE...


Karl, please, stop acting like the Republic hasn't been taken over by Globalists who will.... WAIT...

HAVE YOU SEEN THE NEW VIDEO HOW EASY IT WAS TO HACK A VOTING MACHINE??????????????????


wHY doi you people PRETEND that we live in a "votes count" world, when we don't. What certain country makes and monitors those Diebold Voting Machines??? Do you care??/ prolly not.


EVERYONE DESERVES THE CANDIDATE THAT PUTS THE MOST FEAR IN THEM.


If Bill Clinton mostly followed Bush,Sr., and then Bush,Jr. mainly followed Clinton, and now Obama has mostlyALL followed Bush, how on earth do you people not believe that WHOMEVER "gets elected" isn't going to do EXACTLY WHAT THE POWERS THAT BE want them to do? (Brussels, UN, CFR,  the Fled, etc.,..... Wall Street,    etc..)

HOW?

HOW????


I CANNOT PROP UP CORRUPTION BY "VOTING".








There's a reason you can get "hitler" out of "hillary clinton".... ok.... "hitlar"...... that's close enough for a nickname....







Trump wouldn't be an issue if there were real people running for office, which there hasn't been... for long enough where it doesn't matter to them anymore...






DOOM 4 U



ALL DOOM




NOTHING BUT





DOOM







Even if your personal choice gets it, you don't think some well orchestrated event, or natural, I don't care, ("dont let any crisis go to waste"), you seriously dont think said person WILL FALL IN LINE QUICKLY??????????





suffering from BernOut









OK, who's going to clean up my verbal diary-ah!?

Karl Henning

Quote from: snyprrr on April 24, 2016, 08:55:09 AM
Karl, please, stop acting like the Republic hasn't been taken over by Globalists who will.... WAIT...

Okay.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya


Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Wendell_E

Quote from: snyprrr on April 24, 2016, 08:55:09 AM
There's a reason you can get "hitler" out of "hillary clinton".... ok.... "hitlar"...... that's close enough for a nickname....







Trump wouldn't be an issue if there were real people running for office, which there hasn't been... for long enough where it doesn't matter to them anymore...

OMG!  You're right (or close enough) about Htiler/Hillary.  And LOOK!  From Trump you can get:

rump
ump
up
p u (as in when you smell something awful)
put
pur
Mut (German for "courage", but also almost the same as the English "mutt")
tum

I really think we're onto something!
"Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience." ― Mark Twain

Brian

Anybody have any thoughts on Cruz and Kasich announcing an open alliance?

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Brian on April 25, 2016, 04:45:17 AM
Anybody have any thoughts on Cruz and Kasich announcing an open alliance?
Is there any precedent for this?
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Brian on April 25, 2016, 04:45:17 AM
Anybody have any thoughts on Cruz and Kasich announcing an open alliance?

2 freaking losers join ranks to become one giant freaking loser. Well, that's one thought...

Their political views are at the antipodes of current Republican thought, if such a process can currently be attributed to them. How can they possibly form an alliance when neither of their voter bases share any core values?  OK, that's two thoughts. I'm worn out, someone else go...

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