Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

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Karl Henning

Quote from: Brian on July 05, 2016, 07:51:56 AM
He also said Petraeus got in trouble "for far less," which as I recall is not true.

El Tupé and the truth have never been close.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: Peter Wehner... James Dobson, who is among the most influential leaders in the evangelical world and serves on Mr. Trump's evangelical executive advisory board, declared that "Trump appears to be tender to things of the Spirit," by which Dr. Dobson meant the Holy Spirit.

Oh, lawd, I nearly burst into audible laughter . . . .
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: karlhenning on July 05, 2016, 11:15:20 AM
Oh, lawd, I nearly burst into audible laughter . . . .

But the Christians love him.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

mc ukrneal

Considering the amount of vitrol often posted against many of the candidates, it is very odd to me that that same approach is not being taken against Clinton here. Though the FBI does not support bringing charges against her, the comments by Comey are pretty damning (it is seems almost certain that foreign governments have seen secret information they should not have). An extremely careless candidate is not exactly a ringing endorsement for a nominee.  I would think that in any other year, they might even be cause for a Presidential candidate to resign from the race (or a reason to lose the nomination).
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Madiel

I suspect the biggest reason for the lack of heat is that much of what she did was not unique. If I understand correctly, her predecessors had been lax and the State Department in general had been lax.
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Todd

Quote from: orfeo on July 07, 2016, 05:34:24 AM
I suspect the biggest reason for the lack of heat is that much of what she did was not unique. If I understand correctly, her predecessors had been lax and the State Department in general had been lax.


The biggest reason is her opponent.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: Todd on July 07, 2016, 05:37:23 AM
The biggest reason is her opponent.

"Hitler was a bad guy, really bad guy. But you know what he did well? He negotiated tough deals. He did that so good."
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Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: orfeo on July 07, 2016, 05:34:24 AM
I suspect the biggest reason for the lack of heat is that much of what she did was not unique. If I understand correctly, her predecessors had been lax and the State Department in general had been lax.

You are correct. If she wasn't (at the time) planning a presidential run, this non-issue would have never been heard from again. There is/was no criminality here, merely terminal carelessness and a certain snotty hauteur which has aroused the opponents into a frothing mess... ::)

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Karl Henning

Hmm ... wonder if it's too late to propose yet another Benghazi committee?...
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Madiel

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on July 07, 2016, 06:19:54 AM
You are correct. If she wasn't (at the time) planning a presidential run, this non-issue would have never been heard from again. There is/was no criminality here, merely terminal carelessness and a certain snotty hauteur which has aroused the opponents into a frothing mess... ::)

8)

The latest thing I've read is that the demand for all her emails has actually revealed that she asked for more secure facilities when she started, and was told no by the NSA! So she only set up this system after having been expressly turned down for a secure system.

There's also evidence that people have been over-classifying emails (which, working in government, is a regular problem). People without much power are often keen to show what they're working on is Terribly Important. See this article with comments from Colin Powell: http://mediamatters.org/blog/2016/03/07/state-dept-concludes-past-secretaries-of-state/209044

The whole thing makes a heck of a lot of people look quite stupid. I'm not entirely sure that Clinton is one of them.
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Brian

Quote from: orfeo on July 07, 2016, 06:28:33 AM
The whole thing makes a heck of a lot of people look quite stupid. I'm not entirely sure that Clinton is one of them.
Some people I know in the IT business suspect that it was all a big IT screwup. The government's email system is notoriously awful and buggy, and the desktop program crashes regularly. So there's chatter that probably Hillary asked IT, "Can you please get me something that works?" and nobody checked if their solution complied with the law.

Karl Henning

Although he probably did not mean it as simple vindication, Bernie was right:  the American people are tired of hearing about her damned e-mails.  But the denser of the GOP lawmakers, who refused to see the pointlessness of further attempts to dig up Benghazi dirt, are not going to be any shrewder w/r/t this server affair.
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Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Madiel

Quote from: Brian on July 07, 2016, 06:48:52 AM
Some people I know in the IT business suspect that it was all a big IT screwup. The government's email system is notoriously awful and buggy, and the desktop program crashes regularly. So there's chatter that probably Hillary asked IT, "Can you please get me something that works?" and nobody checked if their solution complied with the law.

I thought you were supposed to be advanced over there. I've worked in various parts of the Australian government for 15 years now, and can only think of a couple of very brief periods of buggy email.

Come to think of it, I know we have a whole-of-government approach to email classification that prevents emails from being sent to addresses that are not sufficiently secure to receive them. A classified email will bounce if you accidentally try to send it to an address that isn't on a "classified" system. I'm tempted to go into work tomorrow and say to colleagues: did you know our email is better than anything the American Secretary of State has?
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" Presumptive Democratic presidential nominee Hillary Clinton took things a bit literal during a campaign stop in North Carolina last week, reading "sigh" off the teleprompter rather than actually sighing. "   Too funny.
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(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: orfeo on July 07, 2016, 07:00:14 AM
I'm tempted to go into work tomorrow and say to colleagues: did you know our email is better than anything the American Secretary of State has?

The solution may be to take the day off.
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snyprrr

Quote from: karlhenning on July 05, 2016, 11:17:38 AM
Good piece.

pfffff..... oh yea...... Ruth Marcus......LOl.......oy vey..... really? can't we do better than her??......



Comey said "any reasonable" two times.... interesting

Comey said "bad ACTORS".... just love in this post-Craigslist crisis actor world we live in, he's making sure to get the agents their cut.


Does the FBI HAVE a charter?????????







So, Karl, is Hillary a lifelong crook, or no?

And do you want "extremely careless" running your country? Really?











OK (assuming you're thinking "what, do you want me to vote trump?")- DON'T VOTE- TELL THEM YOU DON'T BUY THEIR "APPOINTMENTS" DISGUISED AS CANDIDATES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!







Seriously- if H gets in, you really think it's going to be some grand time??  Or is it that you just want to stick it to the "flyovers"?? 







If Hill gets in, will I have to buy gunnes?? to protect myself????








The tree of libretee must be watered now and then with the blood of patriots and tyrants.........
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God Help Us- Robber Barons to the right of me, commies on the left...... if there no more balm in Gilead?????????????








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