Countdown to Extinction: The 2016 Presidential Election

[Madiel]

Point 8 on this list (also on the BBC) also agrees with Ken B.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25776836

[The new erato]

That is, after 1204.... If I were to nominate THE event that had the most negative impact on the history of the Western (ie, Christian) world, it would be the 1204 Crusade.

Or the 1350 plague, that killed so much manpower that serfdom eventuaqlly ended, and paid work and capitalism was the end result.....

[Karl Henning]

Point 8 on this list (also on the BBC) also agrees with Ken B.

http://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-25776836

Thanks. I love point 5, particularly.

[Todd]

There is not a fixed historical date.

You missed the point.  The current side posts about the Great War indicate that European savagery hardly ended in 1204 or 1350 or 1453.

[Todd]

Looks like Khizr Khan is doing the talk show rounds.  I caught the tail end of his segment on Meet the Press.  He knows how to comport himself on camera.  I had to do a quick search to find out who he is.  Turns out he's an attorney who has worked with the press before.  That explains the perfectly selected wording and comfortable demeanor in an interview setting.  The Dems did a great job picking a man on the street with a touching story to tell who also checks some politically relevant boxes.  I wonder how long he will be on the campaign trail.

[snyprrr]

So, the lady says to me, "I'm scared of Trump; he'll go to war as soon as he gets in...". And, mind you, this lady doesn't meet swooning-for-Hill criteria either.

So, I'm looking at her. I had recently watched that Hill/James Baker(?) clip, where he's going on about, I think, the Iranians, and how we should do something big and bad (I forget, but, let's just say it's just on this side of "war hawkish", eh?- not much, mind you, but not, hippie), and then Hill gets that clackffle (laugh+cackle) which seems to indicate. "Yea, I'd f*** them up real purdy like hoss, wooo, f*** yea, 'Murica" (ok, - but please, WATCH THE CLIP - wherever the f*** it is!!).

So I start with the, "Oh, you mean like how Hill ..." and point out Labia, Syria,... just, what war doesn't Hill like? And the lady is starting to make excuses like "well, she's the establishment", "I feel safer" (oh, the word "fell" gets me good, ya'll;)), and, you can guess the meat-n-potatoes.


I seem to hear the same sentiment here. All you grown men are scared this... let's just call him "Russian Oligarch"... is more dangerous than London-DC-TellABeeb... after the latter has proved itself over and over and over and over again over just the last 2+2+2+2+2+2+2+2 years. WHAT exactly are you afeared of that will happen? First nuke on US soil? What? Muslim invasion...Sharia? China+Russia? Crypto-Backlash? Or that he's going to nuke shit all over town on a Saturday night?

You all simply don't have faith in your own overlords to birth a financial/theatrical situation that would keep EITHER of the two patsies busyBusyBUSY for whatever length of time?

Please explain this apparent hypnosis you are all under.





(surely Thomas Jefferson would neither like a businessman, or a career criminal, to run for the highest political office- just to show my impartiality)






OH- BTW- the NEWS called, and wanted to remind you who owns the voting machines, and who counts them. Thank you!

[Karl Henning]

Please explain this apparent hypnosis you are all under.

Thanks for the smile, dude.

[Todd]

surely Thomas Jefferson would neither like a businessman, or a career criminal, to run for the highest political office

No, the esteemed Mr Jefferson preferred to have slave-owning, slave-raping, land-owning gentry run for the highest political office. 

[Florestan]

You missed the point. 

I did. I took your question too literally.

[André]

Please explain this apparent hypnosis you are all under.

PIKACHU HAS TAKEN THE WORLD  OVER ! THE DONALD DOESN'T STAND A CHANCE !!

[André]

I don't know what the talk is about these days in the US (as always it all depends on your preferred source of information), but the Putin influence is widely perceived as pervasive in the Republican campaign.

[Ken B]

I don't know what the talk is about these days in the US (as always it all depends on your preferred source of information), but the Putin influence is widely perceived as pervasive in the Republican campaign.

Looks like an a time-Trump shirt to me. You don't detect sarcasm there? Even after reading the link?

[André]

I'll leave it to you to form your own opinion   

[Ken B]

I saw a hilarious used car salesman ad in Ohio the other day. Billboard with two guys, each had a big Donald hair thing  painted on their pictures, "Make deals great again!"

[The new erato]

Former president Jimmy Carter said Tuesday on the nationally syndicated radio show the Thom Hartmann Program that the United States is now an "oligarchy" in which "unlimited political bribery" has created "a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors." Both Democrats and Republicans, Carter said, "look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves."

https://theintercept.com/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u-s-oligarchy-unlimited-political-bribery/

[Todd]

I don't know what the talk is about these days in the US (as always it all depends on your preferred source of information), but the Putin influence is widely perceived as pervasive in the Republican campaign.

Press sensationalism is working, then.  Perhaps Trump is heavily influenced by Putin, perhaps not, but perception is what matters.

Former president Jimmy Carter said Tuesday on the nationally syndicated radio show the Thom Hartmann Program that the United States is now an "oligarchy" in which "unlimited political bribery" has created "a complete subversion of our political system as a payoff to major contributors." Both Democrats and Republicans, Carter said, "look upon this unlimited money as a great benefit to themselves."

https://theintercept.com/2015/07/30/jimmy-carter-u-s-oligarchy-unlimited-political-bribery/

That's from July 30th of last year.

Carter has been talking about similar themes for a few years.

[Karl Henning]

Press sensationalism is working, then.  Perhaps Trump is heavily influenced by Putin, perhaps not, but perception is what matters.

Not that El Tupé will do anything that he doesn't want to do (that's why they love him so!), but Geo. Will suggests that the release of the tax returns would clarify what Russia does or does not mean to The Nominee.

What do you think, Todd?  Will he get away with non-disclosure all the way through to Election Day?  Lawd knows, El Tupé and clarification have a non-relationship.

[Todd]

What do you think, Todd?  Will he get away with non-disclosure all the way through to Election Day?  Lawd knows, El Tupé and clarification have a non-relationship.

It's not a requirement for being President, and it stretches back only to the 50s, so Trump has a well-reasoned, historical basis for saying he won't release that information, though, of course, that's not how he would put it.  I think he can get away with it.  If enough senior Republican leaders demand it, it will be harder to resist, but Dems, former Republican George Will, and that loser Mitt Romney will not suffice to convince the Donald.

I will admit, I've never looked into doing business personally with Russian firms or individuals, but I would be very surprised if the US government does not have various legal and documentation requirements for non-financial activity, and I know that financial transactions involving Russia involve OFAC, so I find it very difficult to believe that the US government would not already have some indication of at least some Trump dealings with Russia.  It would stand to reason that he would also use offshore entities, making things more difficult to trace, but the value of his tax records there may not be what others hope.  While Trump's tax records would reveal a fair amount about his business dealings, there is a fair chance that hopes of a smoking gun as it pertains to Russia may be just wishful thinking. 

[Karl Henning]

No one convinces 'The Donald'! No one!

Thanks, I am sure you're right.

[Karl Henning]

No one goes lower!

The Khan fight highlights a huge GOP problem: No one knows how low [El Tupé] can go