Who will get the Berliner Philharmoniker gig?

[Ken B]

Does the digital concert hall include rehearsals? That would tempt me.

[MishaK]

Does the digital concert hall include rehearsals? That would tempt me.

No, but the teasers are often snippets from the rehearsals.

[kishnevi]

Someone said Berlin was a cosmopolitan city or something similar?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/berlins-new-jewish-conductor-faces-anti-semitic-german-press/

[MishaK]

Someone said Berlin was a cosmopolitan city or something similar?
http://www.timesofisrael.com/berlins-new-jewish-conductor-faces-anti-semitic-german-press/

Indeed it is a very cosmopolitan city, and the fact that a commentator of a North German radio channel and one random writer at die Welt spew nonsense using anti-semitic tropes, doesn't change that fact. Even a generally cosmopolitan city may harbor some individuals who are idiots. I never claimed homogeneity. Note also that it was German readers/listeners who complained about this in the first place. Also the Times of Israel gets some points wrong. Petrenko stopped giving interviews quite a while back, which has nothing to do with anti-semitism, but simply the idiocy of most interviewers. This whole thing was in the German media a few days ago. http://www.faz.net/aktuell/feuilleton/medien/was-ndr-und-welt-ueber-chefdirigent-kirill-petrenko-sagen-13668140.html

[Karl Henning]

[...] Even a generally cosmopolitan city may harbor some individuals who are idiots.

Why, some doofus here in Boston attached a Confederate flag to the St.-Guadens in Boston Common just last night.

[kishnevi]

Why, some doofus here in Boston attached a Confederate flag to the St.-Guadens in Boston Common just last night.

Well, 200 years ago,  Boston was deep in the heart of secession terrority, and the intrusive Federal Government was headed by Virginians, mostly.

Misha....points taken. 

[MishaK]

In case you're not following the BPO on facebook, all of Petrenko's concerts in the digital concert hall are free to view through the end of August: https://www.digitalconcerthall.com/concerts/conductor_kirill%20petrenko?a=facebook&c=true The Scriabin and the Elgar are especially worth hearing.

[Drasko]

In case you're not following the BPO on facebook, all of Petrenko's concerts in the digital concert hall are free to view through the end of August: https://www.digitalconcerthall.com/concerts/conductor_kirill%20petrenko?a=facebook&c=true The Scriabin and the Elgar are especially worth hearing.

Thanks for the heads-up!

Just finished watching Stravinsky and Scriabin pieces. Le Poème de l’extase is truly a magnificent performance, one of best I heard. Stravinsky is superb as well, very precise and wonderfully controlled, dynamics of the chorus especially. Will leave the Stephan pieces for tomorrow, I'm really curious about them.

[Scion7]

Well, good luck to him, and I pray no whack-a-doodle tries to pull anything because he isn't German, and/or a Jew.
Keep the exit doors locked to the outside.

[Ken B]

Well, good luck to him, and I pray no whack-a-doodle tries to pull anything because he isn't German, and/or a Jew.
Keep the exit doors locked to the outside.

Yes, conductors face such a risk of assassination, I wonder how they function. 

To be clear: The quoted comment is nothing but prejudiced nonsense.

[Scion7]

Yeah, like people sitting in movie theaters face such a threat of assassination I wonder how the movie theaters stay in business.
Um, does what happened in Denver not give you pause?  Or any number of similar recent incidents?
There are crazy people out there - every day, random shootings for no reason, or very little reason.
To some crazed individuals out there, this could VERY much provide "provocation."

[Ken B]

Yeah, like people sitting in movie theaters face such a threat of assassination I wonder how the movie theaters stay in business.
Um, does what happened in Denver not give you pause?  Or any number of similar recent incidents?
There are crazy people out there - every day, random shootings for no reason, or very little reason.
To some crazed individuals out there, this could VERY much provide "provocation."

So now, forced to defend your prejudiced remarks you cite random shootings in a different country.

You weren't talking about random crazies; you were implying widespread antisemtic or zenophobic murderous hatred amongst the Germans. Who  a very low murder rate btw.

[Scion7]

So now, forced to defend your prejudiced remarks you cite random shootings in a different country.

You weren't talking about random crazies; you were implying widespread antisemtic or zenophobic murderous hatred amongst the Germans. Who  a very low murder rate btw.

Oh, so THAT'S what you were on about.
No, I was not.
I am half-German.
Thanks for playing, though.

In the future, you may wish to read what people actually post, rather than what your inner demons think you see.

[MishaK]

I am half-German.

It appears other adjectives also half apply to you.

Let's keep this thread on topic.

[Scion7]

It appears other adjectives also half apply to you.

Let's keep this thread on topic.

I was on-topic.
I was responding to an unjustified attack.
And what sneer are you trying to make?
Dont' start something and they say "Let's keep this thread on topic."

[MishaK]

You made a completely uncalled for post about potential assassination of the future BPO MD for which you were reprimanded with good cause. The rest is your personal fight which doesn't belong here (and is hence OT).

[Scion7]

Oh my goodness, you're so right!
Wishing someone good luck and hoping for their safety - my God, how inappropriate.

You're either paranoid or just trolling.

[amw]

you were implying widespread antisemtic or zenophobic murderous hatred amongst the Germans.

Germany has the highest rates of antisemitic acts in Europe. Some sources say 15% of the population of the country holds antisemitic views. Xenophobia is even more common and less monitored (though, at this point, mostly targeting migrants—something like 200 refugee centres have been burned this year, I think).

Of course there's almost no likelihood of anyone trying to harass a wealthy upper-class arty type like KP, so the original comment is a bit of a wtf, but you're very naïve if you think Germany (or any part of Europe) is a safe and welcoming place for foreigners generally or Jews specifically.

[Ken B]

Germany has the highest rates of antisemitic acts in Europe. Some sources say 15% of the population of the country holds antisemitic views. Xenophobia is even more common and less monitored (though, at this point, mostly targeting migrants—something like 200 refugee centres have been burned this year, I think).

Of course there's almost no likelihood of anyone trying to harass a wealthy upper-class arty type like KP, so the original comment is a bit of a wtf, but you're very naïve if you think Germany (or any part of Europe) is a safe and welcoming place for foreigners generally or Jews specifically.

Well, we are off topic but what I objected to is the "oh look at all the bigots here, not like me" gamesmanship.

[MishaK]

Germany has the highest rates of antisemitic acts in Europe. Some sources say 15% of the population of the country holds antisemitic views. Xenophobia is even more common and less monitored (though, at this point, mostly targeting migrants—something like 200 refugee centres have been burned this year, I think).

Where are you getting your stats? The German Jewish community is comparatively small, whereas there is a large Jewish community in France that has been subject to serious antisemitic violence for years now. I have serious doubts that rates of antisemitic acts in Germany exceed those in France. I think you may be lumping all xenophobic acts together (most of which are directed against Muslim immigrants these days).

Well, we are off topic but what I objected to is the "oh look at all the bigots here, not like me" gamesmanship.

+1

Oh my goodness, you're so right!
Wishing someone good luck and hoping for their safety - my God, how inappropriate.

"Wishing someone luck" is something entirely different than speculating about their horrific demise and then saying that you hope it doesn't happen. It's like me saying, I hope a plane doesn't crash into your house tomorrow. Would be at the very least a rather weird thing to say, no? Somewhat staggering that you can't see that difference. But I understand. Admitting a wrong is a difficult psychological process. Good luck with that. (See, there I am "wishing you luck"!)