More Girl Problems

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ibanezmonster

Quote from: Que on November 14, 2015, 01:14:14 PM
But if widespread gunownership prevents terrorist attacks, that is definitely news to me... ???
Yeah, anyone who has ever played a game where you can freely shoot people realizes what happens. You might die, but people will start shooting the good guys and then each other because they won't know who the bad guy is immediately. Basically doing your evil work for you.

Scion7

Saint-Saëns, who predicted to Charles Lecocq in 1901: 'That fellow Ravel seems to me to be destined for a serious future.'

The new erato

Yes indeed, even though it's not much of a topic.

Que


ibanezmonster



Saw this picture my friend liked on facebook.

I've been staring at this... and this has to be the most seductive thing I've ever seen. I don't think anything tops this.

Tapio Dmitriyevich

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The new erato

Quote from: Greg on December 04, 2015, 06:41:53 PM

I've been staring at this... and this has to be the most seductive thing I've ever seen. I don't think anything tops this.
You should try the real thing.

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: Greg on December 04, 2015, 06:41:53 PM
I've been staring at this... and this has to be the most seductive thing I've ever seen. I don't think anything tops this.

I can't help noticing that remaining a perpetual adolescent is the goal of so many Japanese women. They even pitch their voices to sound pre-pubescent. Kawai is something that makes my skin crawl.

ZB (aka J Inoue)
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Jo498

I do not want to recommend watching porn, but watching non-violent non fetishist porn with real humans involved might count as progress compared to getting aroused by fetishist cartoons...
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

Brian

Quote from: Jo498 on December 05, 2015, 05:22:25 AM
I do not want to recommend watching porn, but watching non-violent non fetishist porn with real humans involved might count as progress compared to getting aroused by fetishist cartoons...

There is something profoundly depressing about the schoolgirl animation and the "most seductive thing" comment. Not only because it's a cartoon rather than a human being; even in the context of pornography, which is almost all fantasy of a sort, this is a blatantly unreal fantasy, something which does not exist in real life. The most attractive quality about it (I assume? since it's not attractive to me) is bashfulness, and eagerness to please - as if the most attractive thing about women is their bashfulness and eagerness to please. More worryingly, maybe, we have a grown adult fetishizing a schoolgirl.

Paging Dr. Freud...

Henk

The point is I think Greg just likes that.

This is not at all as pervert as porno.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Henk

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Quote from: Brian on December 05, 2015, 05:55:45 AM
More worryingly, maybe, we have a grown adult fetishizing a schoolgirl.

Paging Dr. Freud...

Why schoolgirl? Could be any girl as far as appropriate. I'm sure Greg doesn't fall for schoolgirls by definition.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Henk

But I hope however Greg will outgrow the genre.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Henk

I think this kind of cartoons are just a compensation for reality. It's a form of emancipation, though surely with adverse effects, one can hope that this kind of cartoons lead to a positive change in society. But that takes time.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

Mirror Image

Yeah, I think Greg's liking of anime girls has turned into an unhealthy obsession.

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Mirror Image on December 05, 2015, 07:07:00 AM
Yeah, I think Greg's liking of anime girls has turned into an unhealthy obsession.
...about 5 years ago.  :P


Quote from: Henk on December 05, 2015, 07:00:06 AM
I think this kind of cartoons are just a compensation for reality.
Certain ones... without a doubt. Others... just pure art.


Quote from: Tapio Dimitriyevich Shostakovich on December 04, 2015, 10:10:38 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcQHuezF0Ac
Kinda skimmed over the video, but yeah, kind of not surprising for a country which is all work and no play to have such a huge porn industry. People gotta find an outlet somehow; definitely better than rape.




Quote from: Henk on December 05, 2015, 06:53:07 AM
Why schoolgirl? Could be any girl as far as appropriate. I'm sure Greg doesn't fall for schoolgirls by definition.
Thanks, Henk. You're right, I don't in particular have a thing for schoolgirls- it's just that particular picture that struck me. Those hips and that girly expression. (A large percentage of anime takes place in high school/involves high school characters).



Quote from: Jo498 on December 05, 2015, 05:22:25 AM
I do not want to recommend watching porn, but watching non-violent non fetishist porn with real humans involved might count as progress compared to getting aroused by fetishist cartoons...
If we're talking about real girls, my favorite I've seen is the gifs of Katee Owen dancing. That is some amazing stuff.
I used to search around for stuff like that... but then I realized almost all of it is terrible. The worst part is seeing naked guys.


Quote from: Brian on December 05, 2015, 05:55:45 AM
There is something profoundly depressing about the schoolgirl animation and the "most seductive thing" comment. Not only because it's a cartoon rather than a human being; even in the context of pornography, which is almost all fantasy of a sort, this is a blatantly unreal fantasy, something which does not exist in real life. The most attractive quality about it (I assume? since it's not attractive to me) is bashfulness, and eagerness to please - as if the most attractive thing about women is their bashfulness and eagerness to please. More worryingly, maybe, we have a grown adult fetishizing a schoolgirl.

Paging Dr. Freud...
So just wondering... do you prefer a girl to boss you around rather than think about how to please you? The girls I used to like could often be loud and aggressive, but that was not something I really cared about or thought much about. Liking that type specifically is having a tsundere fetish. Not saying that you are/aren't, or that's bad. Though I don't like the word "fetish-" all it is is a derogatory term used to describe any sexual interest that isn't mainstream. You wouldn't call homosexuality a fetish, for example.

One of the most attractive things about a woman can be their "bashfulness and eagerness to please," yes, but only if you're willing to act the same way right back at them. But definitely not the most attractive thing- appearance tops that, of course.

ibanezmonster

I just want to clarify... I like "moe" aka "cuteness," but to a limit. That character to me looks like she could be 20. Young is good, but too young I'm not interested in. For example:



too young looking, not appealing.

Brian

Quote from: Plue! on December 05, 2015, 01:37:45 PM
So just wondering... do you prefer a girl to boss you around rather than think about how to please you?

Well, hang on right there. That's a false choice. I prefer a girl to be an independent human being who likes to be around me because we better each other. And sometimes that means we want to please each other, and sometimes that means we do our own thing, and in general, we act with love and compassion and respect but not with dependency.

There's a time and place for bossiness and for servitude but those are not "default settings" for a healthy 21st-century relationship, are they? Obviously kink/fetish is different, if you like to boss around, or be bossed around, in bed, that is a totally different story. There are plenty of strong and independent people who kinda wanna get on their knees. But that's not what I'm talking about.

Quote from: Plue! on December 05, 2015, 01:37:45 PM
The girls I used to like could often be loud and aggressive, but that was not something I really cared about or thought much about. Liking that type specifically is having a tsundere fetish. Not saying that you are/aren't, or that's bad. Though I don't like the word "fetish-" all it is is a derogatory term used to describe any sexual interest that isn't mainstream.

People with fetishes are usually very comfortable with using the word. Fetish might be derogatory if somebody says it in a derogatory way, but a lot of things can be derogatory if you say them a certain way.

Also, "fetish" isn't just any sexual interest outside the mainstream. The dictionary definition is a heightened sexual interest in an object that isn't a sex organ (feet, certain clothing, you know the story).

Quote from: Plue! on December 05, 2015, 01:37:45 PM
One of the most attractive things about a woman can be their "bashfulness and eagerness to please," yes, but only if you're willing to act the same way right back at them. But definitely not the most attractive thing- appearance tops that, of course.
...well one could argue that personality and wit and intelligence and warmth and kindness and ability to make badass cakes are also attractive qualities...

ibanezmonster

I can agree with all of that.

Marc

Quote from: Plue! on December 04, 2015, 06:41:53 PM


Saw this picture my friend liked on facebook.

I've been staring at this... and this has to be the most seductive thing I've ever seen. I don't think anything tops this.

Apparently you never saw Ally Sheedy and Molly Ringwald.

https://www.youtube.com/v/ZbGlWN6Z0OA

;D

A more personal advice (to some) might be: grow up a little, get rid of all those Teenage Kicks and start thinking of the other sexe as (mature) WOMEN instead of (childish) girls.

(Even though I myself like The Undertones very very much.)

https://www.youtube.com/v/PinCg7IGqHg