Popularity of composers based on # of pages on Composer Discussion

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Gordo on May 17, 2015, 02:17:53 PM
I understand exactly what are you saying. A feeling of ownership and responsibility in regards the threads that we start.

It can sound a bit ridiculous, but this is the reason why, over the years, I have only started two or three threads here: I'm not sure if I can take care of them. Actually, I think I have never started a properly musical thread. I know it can sound a bit prudish, but it's the way I think. 

:)

Well, short of necessity (something to do with my job) or questions non-musical in The Diner, I have only started a very few threads myself in the last 10 years. And for just that reason. My own wish is for fewer, better threads. Can't have it all though, can we?  :)

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springrite

This thread is half in jest, as I know the numbers does not represent much, just an interesting statistics. A truly popular composer tends to be spread out into multiple threads, such as Beethoven into sonatas, symphonies, and Bach into Cantatas, Goldberg Variations, piano vs. harpsichord, etc.

Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Marc

Quote from: springrite on May 17, 2015, 04:57:23 PM
[....] A truly popular composer tends to be spread out into multiple threads, such as Beethoven into sonatas, symphonies, and Bach into Cantatas, Goldberg Variations, piano vs. harpsichord, etc.

Indeed.

Plus several other variables and indicators.

Enthousiastic behaviour of one particular member for instance, who gets about half a dozen enthousiastic beliebers, they're blabbering around for over 100 pages, whist 99% of the other members are listening to other composers and only mentioning their listening experiences once in a month in the 'what are you listening to' (et al) threads.

(Like that nutcase [X], who suddenly went mad about [Y] and his pipe instrument some years ago, and probably made some members believe that the most popular music on this board was [Y]'s organ music.)

:P

Christo

Thanks, Paul, for this scientifically conducted, strict empirical proof of the relative importance of composers.  ;) Ranking them again, makes:

1.   Haydn: 487
2.   Brian: 340
3.   Henning: 250
4.   Elgar: 148
5.   Bruckner: 124
6.   Vaughan Williams: 120
7.   Sibelius: 89
8.   Shostakovich: 74
9.   Beethoven: 72
10.   Prokofiev: 68
11.   Stockhausen: 56 (mostly non James)
12.   Schnittke: 48
13.   Brahms: 44
14.   Delius: 39
15.   Martinu: 35
16.   Koechlin: 31
17.   Bax: 31
18.   Bach: 23
19.   Beckenbauer: 0

(As Monty Python would remark, wonder what Beckenbauer is doing here).


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Marc

Quote from: Christo on May 18, 2015, 02:56:53 AM
Thanks, Paul, for this scientifically conducted, strict empirical proof of the relative importance of composers.  ;) Ranking them again, makes:

1.   Haydn: 487
2.   Brian: 340
3.   Henning: 250
4.   Elgar: 148
5.   Bruckner: 124
6.   Vaughan Williams: 120
7.   Sibelius: 89
8.   Shostakovich: 74
9.   Beethoven: 72
10.   Prokofiev: 68
11.   Stockhausen: 56 (mostly non James)
12.   Schnittke: 48
13.   Brahms: 44
14.   Delius: 39
15.   Martinu: 35
16.   Koechlin: 31
17.   Bax: 31
18.   Bach: 23
19.   Beckenbauer: 0

(As Monty Python would remark, wonder what Beckenbauer is doing here).

Yes, and I wonder what empirically happened to Mahler (165).
And Mozart (47).

EDIT: mind you, the formerly composer section discussion with professor Newman about W.A. Mozart went up to 88 pages, until the moderators decided to move it (along with its drunk participants) to The Diner.

So: Mozart (135).

(Et cetera.)

Luke



ritter

I protest most vehemently!!!!  >:D

There is clearly a conspiracy by obscure forces to ignore Pierre Boulez (at 47 pages) in this ground-breaking statistic! I demand that immediate corrrective action be taken (accompnaied by aplogies from the perpetrators of this affront)!!!   ;D

Marc

Quote from: ritter on May 18, 2015, 03:10:02 AM
I protest most vehemently!!!!  >:D

There is clearly a conspiration by obscure forces to ignore Pierre Boulez (at 47 pages) in this ground-breaking statistic! I demand that immediate corrrective action be taken (accompnaied by aplogies from the perpetrators of this affront)!!!   ;D

YES!

North Star

GMG Top 51 (# posts)

Haydn's Haus                    9732
Brian                                 6810
Mahler Mania Rebooted       3284
Elgar's Hillside                     2943
Bruckner's Abbey                  2467

Vaughan Williams Veranda     2383
Snowshoed Sibelius            1769
Dmitri's Dacha                    1473
The Carter Corner            1461
Beethoven                         1428

Prokofiev's Paddy Wagon   1350
Stockhausen's Spaceship   1118
Alfred Schnittke                   940
Boulez                             934
Mozart                           928

Brahms                          864
Pettersson                    850
Delius                            771
Chez Stravinsky            716
Martinů                         686

Sir Arnold Bax               618
Koechlin                        617
Strauss's House            612
Xenakis's Xen                502
Viva Vivaldi!                   468

Bach's Bungalow           459
Ligeti                             432
Tippett                           418
Schubert                        414
  Cage
  Schönberg                    403

Langgaard                      395
  Ives
  Liszt                              392
Feldman                          387

  Messiaen
  Holmboe                       377         
Braga-Santos                 376
Domenico Scarlatti         371
Dvorak's Den                 365

Debussy's Corner         360
Bartók                          355
William Schuman          351
Penderecki                   349
Nielsen                         345

Britten                          327
Schumann                     322
Tchaikovsky                   319
Janáček (Leoš' Lair)       317
Daniel Jones                  301

Hector Berlioz                300
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Florestan

Franz Schubert doesn´t even have a dedicated generic thread.  ;D
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North Star

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Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on May 17, 2015, 03:27:21 PM
Hell, even I like Miaskovsky!   0:)

8)

The quartet which the Pacificas folded in with one of the instalments of their Shostakovich cycle, was genuinely value added.
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Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Christo on May 18, 2015, 02:56:53 AM
Thanks, Paul, for this scientifically conducted, strict empirical proof of the relative importance of composers.

But:

Quote from: springrite on May 17, 2015, 04:57:23 PM
This thread is half in jest, as I know the numbers does not represent much, just an interesting statistics. A truly popular composer tends to be spread out into multiple threads, such as Beethoven into sonatas, symphonies, and Bach into Cantatas, Goldberg Variations, piano vs. harpsichord, etc.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Jo498

Quote from: karlhenning on May 18, 2015, 09:41:40 AM
The quartet which the Pacificas folded in with one of the instalments of their Shostakovich cycle, was genuinely value added.
I am still debating myself whether the 4? non-Shosty-quartets would be worth that moderate investment (with 4 Shosty-cycles on the shelf I clearly cannot justify it for the Shosty...)
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
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North Star

Quote from: karlhenning on May 18, 2015, 09:46:36 AM
But:

Quote from: North Star on May 18, 2015, 03:42:35 AM
Daniel Jones                  301

Hector Berlioz                300
So you're saying that Daniel Jones might not be more popular as Berlioz at GMG, Karl? Sounds unlikely. . .
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Karl Henning

Quote from: Jo498 on May 18, 2015, 10:16:26 AM
I am still debating myself whether the 4? non-Shosty-quartets would be worth that moderate investment (with 4 Shosty-cycles on the shelf I clearly cannot justify it for the Shosty...)

The Weinberg is also a superb piece.  (And personally, I consider the Prokofiev and Schnittke above question  8)  )
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: North Star on May 18, 2015, 10:16:44 AM
So you're saying that Daniel Jones might not be more popular as Berlioz at GMG, Karl? Sounds unlikely. . .

You rightly chide me for too little Berlioz fervor of late . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot