Top 5 Favourite Schoenberg Works

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ComposerOfAvantGarde

February 11, 2016, 01:15:29 AM
What are your 5 favourites?

For me I think it will go something like this today:

A Survivor from Warsaw
Variations for Orchetra
Suite op. 29
Violin Concerto
String Trio

EigenUser

#1
February 11, 2016, 02:09:53 AM
Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 01:15:29 AM
What are your 5 favourites?

For me I think it will go something like this today:

A Survivor from Warsaw
Variations for Orchetra
Suite op. 29
Violin Concerto
String Trio

Chamber Symphony No. 1
Piano Concerto
Five Pieces for Orchestra
Pelleas und Melisande
Chamber Symphony No. 2

Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 01:15:29 AM
Variations for Orchetra
Violin Concerto
String Trio
I'm afraid of these pieces :-[

Never heard the op. 29, though. But I do like A Survivor from Warsaw.
Beethoven's Op. 133 -- A fugue so bad that even Beethoven himself called it "Grosse".

ComposerOfAvantGarde

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February 11, 2016, 02:30:53 AM
What do you mean by being afraid?  :o

Sergeant Rock

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February 11, 2016, 02:33:54 AM Last Edit: November 27, 2016, 06:05:21 AM by Sergeant Rock
Moses und Aron
Gurre-Lieder
Piano Concerto
Five Pieces for Orchestra op.16
String Quartet No.2 op.10
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

ritter

#4
February 11, 2016, 03:29:49 AM
My two cents' worth:

- Moses und Aron
- Piano concerto, op. 42
- Variations for orchestra, op. 31
- Serenade op. 24
- Six little piano pieces, op. 19

Karl Henning

#5
February 11, 2016, 03:35:28 AM
Serenade, Op.24
Herzgewächse, Op.20
Erwartung, Op.17
String Quartet № 3, Op. 30
Weihnachtsmusik (1921)

(But all of it, really.)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

ritter

#6
February 11, 2016, 03:54:25 AM
Quote from: karlhenning on February 11, 2016, 03:35:28 AM

(But all of it, really.)
I agree with Karl's fine print... ;)

Mirror Image

#7
February 11, 2016, 09:22:21 AM
My list (in no particular order):

Five Pieces for Orchestra, Op. 16
Die Jakobsleiter
Begleitmusik zu einer Lichtspielszene, Op. 34
Piano Concerto, Op. 42
Kol Nidre, Op. 39

Archaic Torso of Apollo

#8
February 11, 2016, 09:36:46 AM
Variations for Orchestra
Pierrot Lunaire
Verklärte Nacht (sextet version preferred)
String Trio
5 Pieces for Orchestra

Surprised I'm the first to mention Verklärte Nacht and Pierrot Lunaire - those are two of his "greatest hits"!
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

bhodges

#9
February 11, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on February 11, 2016, 09:36:46 AM
Surprised I'm the first to mention Verklärte Nacht and Pierrot Lunaire - those are two of his "greatest hits"!

You just beat me to the punch.  8)

Five Pieces for Orchestra
Gurre-Lieder
Moses und Aron
Pierrot Lunaire
Verklärte Nacht (sextet version preferred)

With Erwartung as a very close No. 6. Sorry to omit Variations for Orchestra, and the Piano and Violin Concertos - never mind some of his chamber music.

--Bruce

Kamisama

#10
February 11, 2016, 10:28:02 AM
Quote from an interview with Günter Wand I read yesterday:
"I also think highly of Messiaen, Bartók, Stravinsky and Schoenberg.  The Five Pieces for Orchestra, Opus sixteen is fantastic music.  It's written in the time of Emperor William II in 1910!  It was given for the first time in the Proms in London in 1912, before the First World War.  The third movement is called Chord-Colors.  You think it's Ligeti because it's all for the future.  It is so valuable!  It is genius!  I had a brief exchange of letters with Ligeti.  Listen to Atmosphères or Lontano of Ligeti — you have the same music like from 1910.  There, Schoenberg is atonal, not dodecaphonic, not twelve-tone.  The atonal Schoenberg before becoming a dodecaphonist is the best!"
http://www.bruceduffie.com/wand.html


Dancing Divertimentian

#11
February 11, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Totally ninth-tier composer...



Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

ComposerOfAvantGarde

#12
February 11, 2016, 05:57:08 PM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Totally ninth-tier composer...




But what would your favourite pieces be?

Dancing Divertimentian

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February 11, 2016, 09:40:15 PM Last Edit: February 11, 2016, 09:44:14 PM by Dancing Divertimentian
Quote from: ComposerOfAvantGarde on February 11, 2016, 05:57:08 PM
But what would your favourite pieces be?

It's a tough call. I'm with some of the others: much to choose from.

But probably these:

Erwartung
Fourth string quartet
String trio
Piano Concerto
Serenade

And as my stowaway a strong endorsement for a perennial dark-horse work, The Book of the Hanging Gardens. Undervalued as many works are of this vintage: a song cycle.


Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

Karl Henning

#14
February 12, 2016, 01:27:24 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 12:34:18 PM
Totally ninth-tier composer...





I like your sense of humor!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

#15
February 12, 2016, 01:28:48 AM
Quote from: Dancing Divertimentian on February 11, 2016, 09:40:15 PM
And as my stowaway a strong endorsement for a perennial dark-horse work, The Book of the Hanging Gardens. Undervalued as many works are of this vintage: a song cycle.




Manga Greg would list that first of his five, too.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Cato

#16
February 12, 2016, 01:49:25 AM
Yes, all of it, but...alphabetically

Die Jakobsleiter

Erwartung

Five Pieces for Orchestra

Gurrelieder

Pelleas und Melisande
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Dancing Divertimentian

#17
February 12, 2016, 07:18:17 AM
Veit Bach-a baker who found his greatest pleasure in a little cittern which he took with him even into the mill and played while the grinding was going on. In this way he had a chance to have the rhythm drilled into him. And this was the beginning of a musical inclination in his descendants. JS Bach

bhodges

#18
February 12, 2016, 07:26:48 AM
Argh...I completely forgot about the Kammersymphonie No. 1, but not sure what I'd remove to include it.

Quote from: Brewski on February 11, 2016, 10:02:38 AM
Five Pieces for Orchestra
Gurre-Lieder
Moses und Aron
Pierrot Lunaire
Verklärte Nacht (sextet version preferred)

--Bruce

North Star

#19
February 12, 2016, 07:34:25 AM
Verklärte Nacht (sextet version), Op. 4
Kammersymphonie nr. 1, Op. 9
Fünf Orchesterstücke, Op. 16
Erwartung, Op. 17
Pierrot Lunaire, Op. 21
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