President Obama's visit to UK.

Started by vandermolen, April 23, 2016, 12:32:44 AM

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vandermolen

There have been some interesting news coverage here about President Obama's support of the UK staying in the EU. It was a major boost to the 'stay in' camp but others have said that he should not have spoken up about it. I wonder how much coverage this received in the USA or was the main focus on him being driven around by the 90+ Duke of Edinburgh or his visit to William, Kate and George! Hope all you non-Brits have been celebrating Her Majesty's 90th birthday. 8)
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I didn't even know Obama visited the UK. Shows how well I follow the news. ::)

zamyrabyrd

Barack Obama is a proponent of "One World-ism". He is their puppet. Why for instance did he get the Nobel Peace Prize as soon as he was elected? Better to stay out of that conglomerate. Look what happened to Germany, paying the bills of otherwise laid-back countries.
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snyprrr

to the back of the queue for you!!!!!!!!!

Scion7

Quote from: vandermolen on April 23, 2016, 12:32:44 AM
... celebrating Her Majesty's 90th birthday. 8)
The old cow!   :P   She's going to keep a death-grip on the crown forever without ever letting Carmilla have her spot in the sun/or the shade of Chuck.

Actually many Americans here said the president should keep his nose out of Britain's internal politics, and I agree.  Not that his influence is of any importance to the average Englishman.  0:)
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Quote from: zamyrabyrd on April 23, 2016, 06:03:36 AMWhy for instance did he get the Nobel Peace Prize as soon as he was elected?


He won for not being George W Bush.



Quote from: vandermolen on April 23, 2016, 12:32:44 AMI wonder how much coverage this received in the USA or was the main focus on him being driven around by the 90+ Duke of Edinburgh or his visit to William, Kate and George! Hope all you non-Brits have been celebrating Her Majesty's 90th birthday.


The political portion has received a good amount of attention.  It's good to see that Obama favors aloof tactlessness even when dealing with friendly foreign powers in their own capitals.  Very diplomatic.  (No doubt his supporters would say he was honest or keeping it real, or some such.)  How much of an impact his statements and op-ed have on the referendum, I cannot say.  I'd have to defer to those who live in the UK to say how the emperor's utterances will influence events.

It is amusing to see that Boris Johnson lodged his foot squarely in his mouth, though.  It's refreshing to see that it happens in other countries, too.
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Gurn Blanston

Well, you can't legitimately say his opinions have no influence, and in the same breath say that UK interest in the US elections is justified by the outcome. So yes, his opinion does make a difference.

On the news here, the "news" was that Brits were pissed that he offered an opinion. The actual issue of you being in or out didn't enter into it, it was just another opportunity to criticize Obama. At  least, the 'get out'ers' were pissed. Most of us here are ignorant of the ramifications of you being in or out and what it does to the average man, and most of us don't see it as a 'world conspiracy' issue either. I think that of the people I have talked to about it, the default position of 'don't break things up just for the hell of it' is the choice we would go with. :)

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Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 23, 2016, 07:18:20 AMand most of us don't see it as a 'world conspiracy' issue either.


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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Todd on April 23, 2016, 07:22:51 AM

The Illuminati have gotten to, haven't they?

Those guys are everywhere!! :o :o

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Spineur

Our fellow brittons may be astonished to hear that 60% of the french wants them to stay in the European Union.  Its probably the economic realism which explains the evolution of the state of minds.  Of course not evrybody thinks that way: 77% of National Front voters wish "la perfide Albion" out.

 

vandermolen

Quote from: snyprrr on April 23, 2016, 06:49:20 AM
to the back of the queue for you!!!!!!!!!
;D
Interesting that he used the word 'queue' as I believe that 'line' is the word commonly used in the USA. We British like to queue anyway. 8)
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vandermolen

Quote from: Scion7 on April 23, 2016, 06:57:21 AM
The old cow!   :P   She's going to keep a death-grip on the crown forever without ever letting Carmilla have her spot in the sun/or the shade of Chuck.

Actually many Americans here said the president should keep his nose out of Britain's internal politics, and I agree.  Not that his influence is of any importance to the average Englishman.  0:)

Interesting - thanks. 'The old cow!' You should be ashamed of yourself sir.  8)
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vandermolen

Thanks for the replies which I read with much interest.
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Luke

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 23, 2016, 07:18:20 AM
On the news here, the "news" was that Brits were pissed that he offered an opinion....

Not me, nor anyone I've spoken to about it. (We weren't pissed off, either, to use the British terminology  ;) )

vandermolen

Quote from: Luke on April 23, 2016, 12:15:43 PM
Not me, nor anyone I've spoken to about it. (We weren't pissed off, either, to use the British terminology  ;) )
Nor me as well.
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Quote from: vandermolen on April 23, 2016, 10:13:56 AM
;D
Interesting that he used the word 'queue' as I believe that 'line' is the word commonly used in the USA. We British like to queue anyway. 8)

Being an American I must admit that we do hate more than anything having to stand in a queue for more than 3 minutes. Many will end up going postal. I do love how the Brits can stand for hours in a queue and remain sane. For example when watching the Antique Roadshow on BBC the people in the queues remain calm and have nice chats with the people around them. If only we Yanks could get along with others and chill out more.  8)
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Jo498

Eventually the UK has to leave to become Airstrip One of Oceania. It does not really belong to the continent...
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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Luke on April 23, 2016, 12:15:43 PM
Not me, nor anyone I've spoken to about it. (We weren't pissed off, either, to use the British terminology  ;) )

I didn't mean to imply that it was the literal truth, it simply had enough truthiness to allow broadcast on the National News. NBC did 3 minutes on Thursday evening on Obama meeting the Queen, but the lead-in was 'Obama angers British people by urging remaining in the EU'. I didn't see any actual British commoners actually getting drunk over it, but apparently the reporter must have done...  ;)

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Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Jo498 on April 25, 2016, 12:28:00 AM
Eventually the UK has to leave to become Airstrip One of Oceania. It does not really belong to the continent...

I hope you aren't implying that WE want 'em...   $:)

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vandermolen

Quote from: Gurn Blanston on April 25, 2016, 05:14:11 AM
I hope you aren't implying that WE want 'em...   $:)

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