Which composer would you eliminate from history?

Started by Wanderer, June 08, 2016, 03:12:35 AM

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Florestan

I don't know about composers but right now I feel like eliminating the Orchestra of the Age of the Enlightenment from my listening history from now on. Such a bunch of idiots... ;D ;D ;D
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Brian

Antony Pay is my new favorite person.

That was hilarious  ;D

Gurn Blanston

Quote from: Florestan on June 08, 2016, 04:45:08 AM
I don't know about composers but right now I feel like eliminating the Orchestra of the Age of the Enlightenment from my listening history from now on. Such a bunch of idiots... ;D ;D ;D

You're right, they didn't include Wagner... ;)

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Karl Henning

Philip Glass

There, I said it.  That feels better.
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DaveF

Well, if I had to chose (sic), I would chose the anonymous journeyman who wrote

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rhexf10MDd8

- a piece which all church music directors, including mine, seem to think is wonderful (or perhaps just easy).  Even the girl in the front row who starts off tapping her foot loses (or should that be looses?) interest about a minute in.  I just hope it's not Tallis on an off-day.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: DaveF on June 08, 2016, 05:39:00 AM
. . . I just hope it's not Tallis on an off-day.

"C'mon, Thomas, write something for other people to listen to, for a change!"

Maybe it's just easy . . . I rejoice that I seem to have gotten away with not singing it, all these years  0:)
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Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

(poco) Sforzando

The first guy says he would eliminate Schuman, and yet the graphic displays Schumann.

But I suppose you can't answer the question unless you decide what "history" means. From Alan Bennett's "The History Boys" (though he admitted the punch line was cribbed from the historian Herbert Butterfield):

MRS LINTOTT [a teacher] Now. How do you define history, Mr Rudge?
RUDGE [a pupil] Can I speak freely, miss? Without being hit.
MRS LINTOTT I will protect you.
RUDGE How do I define history?
It's just one fucking thing after another.

Cup of tea, cup of tea.

"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

mc ukrneal

I haven't said yet and already I feel the heat! :)

I would split the bullet into two as well (since a couple in the video did it, I feel the precedent has been set):
1. Stravinsky. Really can't stand the Rite all that much and so many people seem to go ga-ga over it. I get why, but still - despite some wonderful pieces, like the Rake's Progress (which I'd miss), he's still a goner (again). I don't like his impact on the history of music and his not being around would certainly have changed it.
2. Ligeti. This way we would finally have good music to replace his in the movie 2001 and I could watch it without having to mute it every so often, which is how I currently watch it. If it was just his pieces in the movie (that were eliminated), I could live with that too.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: mc ukrneal on June 08, 2016, 06:07:19 AM
I haven't said yet and already I feel the heat! :)

I would split the bullet into two as well (since a couple in the video did it, I feel the precedent has been set):
1. Stravinsky. Really can't stand the Rite all that much and so many people seem to go ga-ga over it. I get why, but still - despite some wonderful pieces, like the Rake's Progress (which I'd miss), he's still a goner (again). I don't like his impact on the history of music and his not being around would certainly have changed it.

Well, we can still be mates, though.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: mc ukrneal on June 08, 2016, 06:07:19 AM
1. Stravinsky. Really can't stand the Rite all that much and so many people seem to go ga-ga over it. I get why, but still - despite some wonderful pieces, like the Rake's Progress (which I'd miss), he's still a goner (again). I don't like his impact on the history of music and his not being around would certainly have changed it.

In other words, to you the Rite is a Rong.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

(poco) Sforzando

If I were to say Havergal Brian, that would be an admission that he is part of history.
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."

mc ukrneal

Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Madiel

Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

amw

Guido d'Arezzo, just because I am really curious what musical notation would have ended up looking like without him......

Parsifal

Quote from: (poco) Sforzando on June 08, 2016, 06:11:42 AM
If I were to say Havergal Brian, that would be an admission that he is part of history.

Heheheheheh!

kishnevi

Beethoven.

That way, we would not be afflicted by a populace that thinks the opening of the Fifth Symphony, the Moonlight Sonata, Fur Elise, and "Ode to Joy" is everything we need to know about classical music.

Brian

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on June 08, 2016, 06:45:41 AM
Beethoven.

That way, we would not be afflicted by a populace that thinks the opening of the Fifth Symphony, the Moonlight Sonata, Fur Elise, and "Ode to Joy" is everything we need to know about classical music.

The other day my mom forwarded me one of those chain emails, and it was a video of somebody playing "Fur Elise". I responded that I hate Fur Elise and never want to hear it again, and she was so confused/shocked. Poor Mom.

Karl Henning

I feel for your Mom.

But I feel for you yet more.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

(poco) Sforzando

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on June 08, 2016, 06:45:41 AM
Beethoven.

That way, we would not be afflicted by a populace that thinks the opening of the Fifth Symphony, the Moonlight Sonata, Fur Elise, and "Ode to Joy" is everything we need to know about classical music.

Can we save the C# minor quartet and say it was written by somebody else?
"I don't know what sforzando means, though it clearly means something."