Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

[Karl Henning]

Meanwhile, back at the "nothingburger" . . .

Mueller's indictment of Russians for interfering with US elections

13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities were just indicted as part of the Robert Mueller investigation

[Karl Henning]

Romney's big challenge: What's his alternative to Trumpism?

[Mahlerian]

Be a sport . . . you must admit, it was a tad funny.

I don't know why they think my view is deserving of constant ridicule, or why they feel the need to bring it up so frequently, but I just find it tiresome.  My opinion on the matter is pretty mainstream, but some here seem to think it's aberrant and that I hold it at all is proof of other intellectual sins.

[Karl Henning]

Ho capito.

[Baron Scarpia]

I don't know why they think my view is deserving of constant ridicule, or why they feel the need to bring it up so frequently, but I just find it tiresome.  My opinion on the matter is pretty mainstream, but some here seem to think it's aberrant and that I hold it at all is proof of other intellectual sins.

Sorry, if you really feel persecuted, it was meant as light-hearted humor.

I'm trained in math. When I see someone casually use a math term, say "exponential growth" I may mentally say to myself, "technically that is not exponential" but if the word is used in nontechnical context that is acceptable usage.

Anyway, I'll lay off.

[Baron Scarpia]

Be a sport . . . you must admit, it was a tad funny.

Brings to mind a common plot device in Peppa Pig.

Daddy Pig experiences some embarrassing misadventure.

Peppa Pig, George and Mommy Pig:

"Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha!"

Daddy Pig:
"That's not funny!.....Well,....I guess it is a bit funny. Ha Ha Ha Ha."



To laugh at yourself you must have a strong character, like Daddy Pig. We can all aspire to be more like Daddy Pig, except for the map reading.

[Daverz]

By the way, during the database outage I was not able to post some very pithy replies to the thread.  I don't have the energy to rewrite them
today, so you should just know that all wrong posts during that time were soundly refuted!

[milk]

By the way, during the database outage I was not able to post some very pithy replies to the thread.  I don't have the energy to rewrite them
today, so you should just know that all wrong posts during that time were soundly refuted!

I don't know how I made it through the outage. Does anyone remember an episode of the American Office when Ryan shows Creed how to make a blog but it's not really connected to the internet? That would probably work just as well with me.

[zamyrabyrd]

A respite from #45 is usually welcome ...
But: "Special counsel Mueller indicts 13 Russians with interfering in 2016 U.S. election"
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/special-counsel-mueller-charges-13-russians-interfering-2016-election-n848686

Sure, the all-powerful Russkies secretly injected brain worms into American voters through computer screens causing them to reject Hillary whom their hearts really longed for.

[Baron Scarpia]

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/evidence-linking-alleged-shooter-to-white-supremacist-group-is-unraveling_us_5a860d74e4b004fc3190630c

"Law enforcement officials in Florida have reportedly not yet found ties between the Parkland school shooting suspect and the white supremacist paramilitary group Republic of Florida, despite claims from the group's leader. Those claims were widely circulated by news outlets on Thursday.

As of Thursday evening, it was seemingly too soon to say what might have motivated Nikolas Cruz, 19, to allegedly shoot at least 17 people to death at his former high school. It was likewise too soon to say whether Cruz held any white supremacist views. So far, though, the evidence linking him to this specific white supremacist group is thin. (We will update this story if that changes.) 

Jordan Jereb, an ROF leader, told the Anti-Defamation League on Thursday that Cruz participated in training exercises with the group, but that the group hadn't ordered Cruz to carry out the school shooting."

Also doesn't make sense that the ROF would encourage shooting up white people. Cruz was a bitter piece of work. His real father may be around somewhere but he was brought up by a stepfather who died several years ago and his mother last November. I always suspect a drug connection.

What's your point, that association with this shooter will besmirch the good name of white supremacist hate groups?

Whether or not his association with the "Republic of Florida" pans out, he participated in white supremacist hate groups in social media.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/us/exclusive-school-shooter-instagram-group/index.html

[zamyrabyrd]

What's your point, that association with this shooter will besmirch the good name of white supremacist hate groups?
Whether or not his association with the "Republic of Florida" pans out, he participated in white supremacist hate groups in social media.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/02/16/us/exclusive-school-shooter-instagram-group/index.html

I wasn't aware that white supremacist groups advocate shooting up schools with large populations of whiteys.
Interesting when a Mohammed, Ali or Said's hand gets caught in the cookie jar, the media is compelled to announce that there is no connection with radical Islam, which of course does not preach killing of non believers.

[amw]

All evidence suggests the FBI completely mishandled this/failed to take it seriously, presumably because the kid was not a "radical Islamic terrorist" or a "black identity extremist" or whatever and therefore could not possibly be a threat. (White supremacists kill other white people all the time. Anders Behring Breivik's victims were mostly white, just had a different political ideology than him. Y'all should talk more about white-on-white crime!)

Also most of these mass shooters are men, weird. Maybe gun ownership should be totally legal according to current US law, but for women only. That might solve a few problems >.>

[milk]

I wasn't aware that white supremacist groups advocate shooting up schools with large populations of whiteys.
Interesting when a Mohammed, Ali or Said's hand gets caught in the cookie jar, the media is compelled to announce that there is no connection with radical Islam, which of course does not preach killing of non believers.

Are you saying that white supremacist organizations get a bad rap? That they are unfairly demonized? Maybe you meant to say the MSM doesn't like to tie individual acts of terrorism with mainstream Islam? That would make more sense.

[zamyrabyrd]

All evidence suggests the FBI completely mishandled this/failed to take it seriously, presumably because the kid was not a "radical Islamic terrorist" or a "black identity extremist" or whatever and therefore could not possibly be a threat. (White supremacists kill other white people all the time. Anders Behring Breivik's victims were mostly white, just had a different political ideology than him. Y'all should talk more about white-on-white crime!)
Also most of these mass shooters are men, weird. Maybe gun ownership should be totally legal according to current US law, but for women only. That might solve a few problems >.>

I get what you're saying, the question is does the FBI investigate anything unless it is shoved in front of their faces, and then still don't see it?

https://nypost.com/2018/02/16/deputies-called-to-suspected-shooters-home-39-times-over-seven-years/
Before Nikolas Cruz carried out his mass killing at a Florida high school this week, police responded to his home 39 times over a seven-year period, according to disturbing new documents.

One could make a case as well for Moslems generally killing Moslems and not Kaffirs. Brevik, the Las Vegas shooter and other crazed mass murderers, first have serious personality disorders. I am still waiting for a drug connection with Cruz to be revealed because this seems to be a common denominator. Such people are disturbed to begin with and are attracted by the rhetoric and acting out of extremist groups (fill in the blank) like flies to honey.

[nodogen]

Meanwhile, back at the "nothingburger" . . .

Mueller's indictment of Russians for interfering with US elections

13 Russian nationals and three Russian entities were just indicted as part of the Robert Mueller investigation

Is it payback time for the US (cough) helping Yeltsin get elected?

[nodogen]

Trump is helping to dial down white supremacist threat investigations even though they are a significant threat. If a Muslim had murdered 17 people there'd probably be a US invasion of [pick a country] by now, or at least internment of brown-skinned people for their own safety. But because the killer is white, it's just a person with a mental health problem. No need to review gun laws or internal terror threat investigations.

[nodogen]

Sure, the all-powerful Russkies secretly injected brain worms into American voters through computer screens

A crude description, but yes that's basically what happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

[Karl Henning]

After the Parkland shooting, pro-Russian bots are pushing false-flag allegations again

For most Americans, the Parkland shooting was a terrible tragedy. But for social media accounts that promote the interests of Russia in the United States, it was a fantastic opportunity.

On the morning after the tragedy, the Russia-linked accounts were commenting fiercely, pushing the "crazy lone killer" explanation for the shooting and mocking advocates of gun control. According to Hamilton 68, a tracker website created by the German Marshall Fund, a lot of them linked to photos of guns and ammunition on the Instagram account of the suspected killer, plus a screenshot of a Google search for "Allahu akbar." Others linked to a fact-checking website that debunked some statistics about gun crime. By Friday morning, some of the same accounts were also pushing something slightly different: the hashtag #falseflag. That's a reference to the conspiracy theory, already widespread 48 hours later, that the shooting never happened, that the attack is a "false flag" operation staged by the U.S. government as a prelude to the seizure of guns[....]

[snyprrr]

A crude description, but yes that's basically what happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

It's never a Conspiracy Theory when the Left promotes it.

[Todd]

Is it payback time for the US (cough) helping Yeltsin get elected?

The United States is the only country with the legitimate authority to pursue regime change as an official policy. 

A crude description, but yes that's basically what happened.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/apr/02/putin-kremlin-inside-russian-troll-house

Yes, indeed, American democracy is so fragile that some Russian bots 'n' trolls can determine the outcome of a general election.  If strong steps are not taken, and taken right now, and at the federal level, then the very legitimacy of elections this year and in 2020 and later is at stake.  The republic itself is on the precipice of dissolution and chaos.