Sound The TRUMPets! A Thread for Presidential Pondering 2016-2020(?)

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zamyrabyrd

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

milk

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on October 30, 2018, 10:24:42 PM
No, you are wrong. Nothing can compare with the race baiting and stirring the pot of Obama actually inciting riots with comments such as "Trayvon Martin could have been my own son", making prejudgements before all the facts were in. The culture of hate is directed against Trump and anything he does, so it is projection on steroids.
I like it when people get beat up and I like when people get kicked. I like grabbing women's genitals, don't you? I liked partying at studio 54 and I never got captured! Ha ha! I'm a Christian. Have you seen my playboy videos? How do I now the Central Park five were guilty and should be executed? Take a guess how I know. And yes, they're rapists. Do you know who else are rapists? Mexicans. As Alex Jones noted, there's a very large conspiracy aimed at making us believe fake news. Obama started riots by empathizing with a black kid who got killed. Everyone remembers the Obama-riots. The fake news didn't cover it! But what can we do NOW? That's my question. Not only is Tump the most honest president we've ever had, he's the best. You know they will attempt to illegitimately remove him from office one way or another. Then what?

zamyrabyrd

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Christo

Quote from: SimonNZ on October 30, 2018, 11:54:41 PM
Are you drunk? Don't bother answering. I'm going back to filtering you.
No, trolling. Persistent cynicism is obviously not an 'opinion', but simply resentment, perhaps hatred, for its own sake.
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milk

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on October 31, 2018, 01:06:42 AM
Hillary Clinton is waiting in the wings...
Ha ha ha! I love the Hillary free get out of B.S. card! Works E-V-E-R-Y Time! Wipes the stench of bloody fecal matter away. 
But seriously, you're just going to lie down and take it if Tump gets humiliated? Come on! Tump didn't get his stomach stapled and work those three-hour days just to call it a job done and go home. I say he should take some diet pills and get out there and foment a revolution of deplorable-s!

Daverz

I'm trying to understand the mindset that sees an expression of empathy like "Trayvon Martin could have been my own son" as "race baiting".  I think you have to see blackness as essentially illegitimate to believe that.

71 dB

Quote from: Daverz on October 31, 2018, 02:12:38 AM
I'm trying to understand the mindset that sees an expression of empathy like "Trayvon Martin could have been my own son" as "race baiting".  I think you have to see blackness as essentially illegitimate to believe that.

It's reasoning backwards from your conclusions. A trait of many religious and bigoted people.

EDIT "common" changed to "many" to make the post more clear.
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amw

Quote from: Daverz on October 31, 2018, 02:12:38 AM
I'm trying to understand the mindset that sees an expression of empathy like "Trayvon Martin could have been my own son" as "race baiting".  I think you have to see blackness as essentially illegitimate to believe that.
Pretty much. It's all Bell Curve, Turner Diaries, Camp of the Saints BS. It's a contemporary pathology brought on by growing social alienation & it's not really worth trying to reason it out.

milk

Quote from: Daverz on October 31, 2018, 02:12:38 AM
I'm trying to understand the mindset that sees an expression of empathy like "Trayvon Martin could have been my own son" as "race baiting".  I think you have to see blackness as essentially illegitimate to believe that.
This is a good reminder to me of how Tumpers are different than some of the mainstream conservatives. Tumpers have a very ugly view of the world. Except that many mainstream conservatives really don't care about this kind of poison if they can get their policies through. Hatred is their friend even if they know these people are intellectually, emotionally and politically toxic.

milk

Has Mueller Subpoenaed the President?
A careful reading of court filings suggests the special counsel hasn't been quiet. Far from it.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2018/10/31/has-robert-mueller-subpoenaed-trump-222060

Christo

Quote from: 71 dB on October 31, 2018, 02:44:53 AMA common trait of religious and bigoted people.
In this respect, you resemble this most-secular-ever American president more than you apparently realize.
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71 dB

Quote from: Christo on October 31, 2018, 05:00:49 AM
In this respect, you resemble this most-secular-ever American president more than you apparently realize.

Just saying how it is. A fundamental part of religious faith is starting from an unquestionable postulate such as "the God of my religion exists" and work backwards from there what all the other facts must be (e.g. the Earth is 6000 years old or it's a sin to be gay etc.). Of course not all religious people are like that, but the idea of faith based belief system doesn't help in learning to reason from the known facts toward the conclusions and not the other way around.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: 71 dB on October 31, 2018, 07:15:29 AM
Of course not all religious people are like that [...]

That looks like backtracking.  You would serve your honor better, by refraining from the blanket assertions beforehand.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
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71 dB

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on October 31, 2018, 07:20:17 AM
That looks like backtracking.  You would serve your honor better, by refraining from the blanket assertions beforehand.

I wrote "A common trait of religious and bigoted people." where the word common means not every religious person. Perhaps not the best choice retrospectively, but that's what I meant. So, I wasn't backtracking. However, you can blame me for a bad formulation if that makes you feel better.
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Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Marc

Quote from: milk on October 31, 2018, 12:55:42 AM
I like it when people get beat up and I like when people get kicked. I like grabbing women's genitals, don't you? I liked partying at studio 54 and I never got captured! Ha ha! I'm a Christian. Have you seen my playboy videos? How do I now the Central Park five were guilty and should be executed? Take a guess how I know. And yes, they're rapists. Do you know who else are rapists? Mexicans. As Alex Jones noted, there's a very large conspiracy aimed at making us believe fake news. Obama started riots by empathizing with a black kid who got killed. Everyone remembers the Obama-riots. The fake news didn't cover it! But what can we do NOW? That's my question. Not only is Tump the most honest president we've ever had, he's the best. You know they will attempt to illegitimately remove him from office one way or another. Then what?

:laugh: 8)

Karl Henning

Mueller probes Roger Stone's interactions with Trump campaign and timing of WikiLeaks release of Podesta emails
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Ghost of Baron Scarpia

Quote from: 71 dB on October 31, 2018, 07:15:29 AM
Just saying how it is. A fundamental part of religious faith is starting from an unquestionable postulate such as "the God of my religion exists" and work backwards from there what all the other facts must be (e.g. the Earth is 6000 years old or it's a sin to be gay etc.). Of course not all religious people are like that, but the idea of faith based belief system doesn't help in learning to reason from the known facts toward the conclusions and not the other way around.

You are taking a stereotypical attribute of "religious people," which describes a small subset, and using it to heap contempt on all "religious people." That is more-or-less the definition of bigotry.

Karl Henning

President Toadstool saying that anyone else on the planet "knows nothing about" something viz. the Constitution = ROFLMLAO (rolling on the floor laughing my liberal ass off)

Trump lashes out at Paul Ryan over birthright citizenship comments

President Trump said House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) "should be focusing on holding the Majority rather than giving his opinions on Birthright Citizenship, something he knows nothing about!"
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot