Beyond 12 pitches

Started by ComposerOfAvantGarde, November 30, 2016, 02:28:09 PM

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ComposerOfAvantGarde

This is a thread for discussion of music that uses microtones. Recently I discovered for myself an amazing Russian composer called Ivan Wischnegradsky (Вышнегра́дский if that helps with pronunciation) who wrote a huge amount of works using microtones. Curiously enough, he primarily composed for piano!!!

I find this prelude very beautiful:

https://www.youtube.com/v/WCvSkmIMRMY


Mahlerian

Among works using microtones, I've been partial to this one:

https://www.youtube.com/v/ItHOY0xY4HM
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Cato

One of my favorites since the 1960's  ??? :o : yes, it has been that long! :laugh:

https://www.youtube.com/v/lOihGnn6HoE

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- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

jochanaan

I see I'll have to explore the music of Ivan Vishnegradsky!  As a piano tuner, I'm "professionally interested" in how he got these effects... ;D
Imagination + discipline = creativity

Dax

Panufnik's Polysanka offers a less usual use of microtones

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qi_7-QGvYVU



PotashPie

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WIK: The term "microtonal music" usually refers to music containing very small intervals but can include any tuning that differs from Western twelve-tone equal temperament.
This is nice to know.

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Shri Camel is an album by experimental music and classical minimalism pioneer Terry Riley. For the studio recording, Riley performed the work solo on a modified Yamaha YC-45D combo organ tuned in just intonation and augmented with studio digital delay.

Cato

"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

ComposerOfAvantGarde

I think this would be very appropriate to this thread. I am sure both Alien/Le Modernist and Cato would love this:

https://www.youtube.com/v/2XDr2MeZL18

Crudblud

With apologies, y'all know I just can't resist a cheap plug.

https://www.youtube.com/v/X0JSAoGau2Y

You did it

Quote from: jessop on November 15, 2017, 04:59:09 PM
I think this would be very appropriate to this thread. I am sure Le Modernist would love this:

https://www.youtube.com/v/2XDr2MeZL18

Yep, cool piece. Kurtag-isms and all. I read an interesting paper on that piece somewhere too  :)

You did it

Quote from: Crudblud on November 15, 2017, 05:12:52 PM
With apologies, y'all know I just can't resist a cheap plug.

https://www.youtube.com/v/X0JSAoGau2Y

One of my several favorites of yours, from even the first second it's like: "yeah!  8) "

ComposerOfAvantGarde

^Crudblud that one is seriously cool.

Cato

Quote from: jessop on November 15, 2017, 04:59:09 PM
I think this would be very appropriate to this thread. I am sure both Alien/Le Modernist and Cato would love this:

https://www.youtube.com/v/2XDr2MeZL18

In one sense, the work has an ancestor in a tonal work called As Quiet As by Michael Colgrass.  His opus, however, is for an orchestra.

There is an ancient, meditative aspect to the score.   (And I find the written score excessively complex: could it not have been notated much more simply? (128th notes?! Why?).   

Check out Haba's Suite for Quarter-Tone Guitar as played by a Turkish guitarist:

https://www.youtube.com/v/uwsv6cZvPaw

"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: Cato on November 16, 2017, 03:04:14 PM
In one sense, the work has an ancestor in a tonal work called As Quiet As by Michael Colgrass.  His opus, however, is for an orchestra.

There is an ancient, meditative aspect to the score.   (And I find the written score excessively complex: could it not have been notated much more simply? (128th notes?! Why?).   

Check out Haba's Suite for Quarter-Tone Guitar as played by a Turkish guitarist:

https://www.youtube.com/v/uwsv6cZvPaw



Aha yes I am familiar with this piece, although not the aforementioned Michael Colgrass...........are there recordings available?

aleazk

Well, pretty much any composition written these days use microtones... at least the ones that have the modernist torch right now...

So, maybe, this piece for guitar by Dai Fujikura, which uses a lot of harmonics and so I guess many of them are naturally microtonal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZnqNsAXfM

Cato

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Quote from: jessop on November 16, 2017, 04:42:25 PM
Aha yes I am familiar with this piece, although not the aforementioned Michael Colgrass...........are there recordings available?

YouTube to the rescue!!!  8)  "An Ant Walking" is the salient section:

https://www.youtube.com/v/VtKKoViSP_I
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

ComposerOfAvantGarde

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Quote from: aleazk on November 17, 2017, 02:51:30 AM
Well, pretty much any composition written these days use microtones... at least the ones that have the modernist torch right now...

So, maybe, this piece for guitar by Dai Fujikura, which uses a lot of harmonics and so I guess many of them are naturally microtonal...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4ZnqNsAXfM

I really ought to play this; it's a wonderful little piece! Maybe next year......?

The only thing is, the microtonal aspect of this piece isn't a very biiiig part of it.

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: Cato on November 17, 2017, 03:40:53 AM
YouTube to the rescue!!!  8)  "An Ant Walking" is the salient section:

https://www.youtube.com/v/VtKKoViSP_I

A nice piece! Not very complex, very pleasant to listen to. I would be interested to find a score of this one day. Should be an interesting read...........for the most part I did like the quotes even though they came across as very blatant.

aleazk

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Quote from: jessop on November 17, 2017, 01:20:33 PM
The only thing is, the microtonal aspect of this piece isn't a very biiiig part of it.

:( :P

And some of those harmonics are clearly microtonal, just basic physics  ;)