Debussy's opinion of Stravinsky?

Started by relm1, December 29, 2016, 03:33:18 PM

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I am listening to Debussy's "The Fall of the House of Ushers" and it reminded me of the stylistic similarities to Stravinsky's contemporaneous works such as "The Firebird" given that Stravinsky was an admirer of his.  Since Stravinsky had such an incredible trio of ballets during this time, I am curious if anyone knows what Debussy thought of Stravinsky's musical style?  I believe they were friends and know they overlapped in the Parisian musical circles but any writings or letters showing his opinion of Stravinsky and his evolution?

ComposerOfAvantGarde

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I just found this:

In December 1911 Claude Debussy wrote to his Swiss friend Robert Godet:

“Are you aware that a young Russian musician named Igor Stravinsky with an instinctive genius for color and rhythm lives near you in Clarens? I’m sure that both he and his music will give you infinite pleasure. […] His music is full of feeling for the orchestra […]. He is afraid of nothing nor is he pretentious. It is music that is child-like and untamed. Yet the layout and the co-ordination of ideas is extremely delicate. If you have an opportunity of meeting him do not hesitate!” (Quoted from Edward Lockspeiser: Debussy: his life and mind (Cambridge University Press, 1978), p. 180.)

http://petruschka-klavierfestival.de/index.asp?level1=5&level2=1&page=0&pdt=4&lang=2

It's always so lovely to read one composer's enthusiasm for another composer :D




relm1

Quote from: jessop on December 29, 2016, 04:06:33 PM
I just found this:

In December 1911 Claude Debussy wrote to his Swiss friend Robert Godet:

"Are you aware that a young Russian musician named Igor Stravinsky with an instinctive genius for color and rhythm lives near you in Clarens? I'm sure that both he and his music will give you infinite pleasure. [...] His music is full of feeling for the orchestra [...]. He is afraid of nothing nor is he pretentious. It is music that is child-like and untamed. Yet the layout and the co-ordination of ideas is extremely delicate. If you have an opportunity of meeting him do not hesitate!" (Quoted from Edward Lockspeiser: Debussy: his life and mind (Cambridge University Press, 1978), p. 180.)

http://petruschka-klavierfestival.de/index.asp?level1=5&level2=1&page=0&pdt=4&lang=2

It's always so lovely to read one composer's enthusiasm for another composer :D

Wow, that was fantastic!  It is also fantastic when one great composer reacts positively to another great composer who users their style in a very unique way!  Thanks for posting this interesting correspondence.

ComposerOfAvantGarde

Quote from: relm1 on December 29, 2016, 04:42:34 PM
Wow, that was fantastic!  It is also fantastic when one great composer reacts positively to another great composer who users their style in a very unique way!  Thanks for posting this interesting correspondence.

And thank you too, for indirectly letting me know there are recordings of Debussy's Edgar Allan Poe operas! I am going to listen sooner or later!

relm1

Quote from: jessop on December 29, 2016, 04:48:42 PM
And thank you too, for indirectly letting me know there are recordings of Debussy's Edgar Allan Poe operas! I am going to listen sooner or later!

This is what I am listening to:
https://www.amazon.com/Debussy-Edgar-Allen-Poe-Operas/dp/B01DTBDGR0/ref=cm_cr_arp_d_product_top?ie=UTF8

Let me know what you think.

ComposerOfAvantGarde


Mahlerian

Quote from: relm1 on December 29, 2016, 04:42:34 PM
Wow, that was fantastic!  It is also fantastic when one great composer reacts positively to another great composer who users their style in a very unique way!  Thanks for posting this interesting correspondence.

It should be noted that he was also somewhat hesitant in regards to Stravinsky's evolving style, saying (in relation to the Three Japanese Lyrics, perhaps) that he "inclined too closely to the Schoenberg camp."
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg

Monsieur Croche

Stravinsky dedicated two works to Debussy.

Zvezdolikiy (Le Roi des étoiles, 1912)
https://www.youtube.com/v/P53EcsefehY

Igor Stravinsky - Symphonies d'instruments à vent (1920)
The work is dedicated to the memory of Claude Debussy, who died in 1918
https://www.youtube.com/v/YiAWGWfWUHs
~ I'm all for personal expression; it just has to express something to me. ~

Mahlerian

Quote from: Monsieur Croche on December 30, 2016, 09:00:09 PM
Stravinsky dedicated two works to Debussy.

Zvezdolikiy (Le Roi des étoiles, 1912)
https://www.youtube.com/v/P53EcsefehY

Igor Stravinsky - Symphonies d'instruments à vent (1920)
The work is dedicated to the memory of Claude Debussy, who died in 1918
https://www.youtube.com/v/YiAWGWfWUHs

And they're both excellent works too!
"l do not consider my music as atonal, but rather as non-tonal. I feel the unity of all keys. Atonal music by modern composers admits of no key at all, no feeling of any definite center." - Arnold Schoenberg