Non-Classical Music Listening Thread!

[Henk]

I think that musicians in general are humans that live lifes in an excalted way.

A painter, like me, also needs excaltation / frenzy (though many do without) but only during the creative work, in my life my wellbeing needs calm.

[AnotherSpin]

Agreed. It's useful to aqcuire a peaceful mind, to oneself, others and society. To remain calm in every circumstance is a proof of value and wisdom. And is productive. But Greg is just not content with it, it's not his value, but it can be someone else's. For me personally it is. For some it's natural for other's like me, it's something to strive for, to acquire, to be productive and to be able to live wisely.

Not that I can't relate to @greg. I also need excaltation and dopamine, though serotinine, endorphine and oxytocine are of equal importance to me.

Of course Greg has a different brain and body chemistry, he seems to need more stimulation to produce dopamine (with probably a positive feedback loop involved).

I wasn't talking about a peaceful mind. The mind is just a mind, it makes no difference is it calm, or active, or balanced. Natural human condition is beyond mind. Or body, or chemistry.

Nothing to acquire too.

[Henk]

I wasn't talking about a peaceful mind. The mind is just a mind, it makes no difference is it calm, or active, or balanced. Natural human condition is beyond mind. Or body, or chemistry.

Nothing to acquire too.

In my case I must acquire it. I must use my brain plasticity in a high degree to recover from trauma, illness to become who I am and that is quite a rewarding (dopamine) thing to me.

[Bachtoven]

[AnotherSpin]

In my case I must acquire it. I must use my brain plasticity in a high degree to recover from trauma, illness to become who I am and that is quite a rewarding (dopamine) thing to me.

I do not know your circumstances, but I am quite certain that you had no doubt you are before, during, and after the trauma. Your essence is unchanged. Nothing to acquire here, truly.

[Henk]

I do not know your circumstances, but I am quite certain that you had no doubt you are before, during, and after the trauma. Your essence is unchanged. Nothing to acquire here, truly.

There's very much to say about these things and there are very many unknowns. But I can agree there's something like an essence, genetic make-up or formation in chilhood, but one has a past, one has illness, a history, one has to interact with a (ill) world and society, and this raises many difficulties. Life isn't easy and I think it's imperative to acquire mental health, to deal with all those things. That makes much sense to me, otherwise I would feel lost. In that learning process, through experiences, I become who I am.

[AnotherSpin]

There's very much to say about these things and there are very many unknowns. But I can agree there's something like an essence, genetic make-up or formation in chilhood, but one has a past, one has illness, a history, one has to interact with a (ill) world and society, and this raises many difficulties. Life isn't easy and I think it's imperative to acquire mental health, to deal with all those things. That makes much sense to me, otherwise I would feel lost. In that learning process, through experiences, I become who I am.

Look, I actually hold pretty much the opposite views. About becoming who I am, about personal history, the past, etc. About interacting with the world. Despite the fact that I see it all radically differently, I am also see that it greatly helps me in my current situation as a person living in a city under missiles attacks. I really don't believe this thread is the right place to go deeper. If you are interested, we can chat in private

[greg]

I think that musicians in general are humans that live lifes in an excalted way.

A painter, like me, also needs excaltation / frenzy (though many do without) but only during the creative work, in my life my wellbeing needs calm.

Pretty accurate summary.

[KevinP]

I had heard the term "MUZAK", but I didn't know what kind of music it prefers to.

Years ago, I heard (and believed) a quip that Muzak was called such because it was the person's name. I just looked it up and that is apparently not true, but it was an attempt at a brand name along the lines of 'Kodak'.

Muzak is basically an outgrowth of Satie's furniture music, though I suspect if Satie hadn't invented the notion of background music, somebody else would have.

[SimonNZ]

Boygenius - The Record

[Karl Henning]

I listen to it infrequently enough, that I am apt to forget just what a good album Sgt Pepper is. I get that there are those who maintain that Revolver is the better of the two. Maybe, but I really don't see that taking aught away from Pepper.

[SimonNZ]

Yo La Tengo - This Stupid World

Wire magazine's album of the year for 2023

[KevinP]

Revolver probably has the better songs, but Pepper is more of an album.

I listen to it infrequently enough, that I am apt to forget just what a good album Sgt Pepper is. I get that there are those who maintain that Revolver is the better of the two. Maybe, but I really don't see that taking aught away from Pepper.

Revolver probably has the better songs, while Pepper is more of an album.

[KevinP]

Been on a big Janis Joplin kick lately, certainly not for the first time. Have listened to all her studio recordings a few times and working my way through the various live discs I have.

I'm beginning to appreciate Big Brother and the Holding Company more this time around, though I still can't fathom why anybody would say, 'Hey Janis. I'll sing lead on this one. You take backup.'

[SimonNZ]

Looking for something completely unrelated Youtube offers me this:

[SimonNZ]

^Thought that might have got some kind of comment

Now:

[ando]

Looking for something completely unrelated Youtube offers me this:

I recently did my own private Dido's Lament comparison listening session. Can't get into the silly "best" debate. It's a hard piece to f*** up. Purcell wrote a beauty. Thanks.   

[ando]

Connected The Foreign Exchange (2004, BBE)
Laid back, hip hop classic.

[Pohjolas Daughter]

Looking for something completely unrelated Youtube offers me this:

Very haunting and nicely sung.  Particularly haunting as he died so young.  Wonder where he sang it?  Any idea?

PD

[SimonNZ]

Very haunting and nicely sung.  Particularly haunting as he died so young.  Wonder where he sang it?  Any idea?

PD

Meltdown Festival,1995, apparently.

TD:



Harold Budd and Brian Eno - The Pearl (1984)