The insanity of abundance!

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Florestan

Quote from: Brian on May 25, 2017, 04:49:36 AM


I see nothing wrong with these, or with glamor covers in general. Away with the snobbery and priggishness that for so long have been, more rightly than wrongly, associated with classical music! Why should all the hot chicks make careers in pop music only? Classical could use them, too --- and Lord be praised, there is no dearth of them as of late: Alice Sara Ott, Nino Gvetadze, Yuja Wang, Tianwa Yang to name but a few. Heck, even Martha Argerich, Helene Grimaud or Maria Tipo were red hot in their prime.

Think of it this way: a seasoned classical music lover will never buy a CD because of its glamor cover, while a novice might be won for the classical camp by doing just that.

Go, girls, go!  :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Florestan

Quote from: 71 dB on May 25, 2017, 08:17:06 AM
Nobody bothers to market a talentless person.

That is one of the most counterfactual statements ever made on GMG.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

71 dB

Quote from: Todd on May 25, 2017, 08:29:06 AM

Times change.  You should keep up with the facts on the ground when making claims.  Naxos uses glamour shots because they help move product.  Whether you, specifically, like them or not doesn't matter at all. 

I asked how often you see a glamour shot? Is that a claim? I was after the fact that you even today rarely see a glamour shot. Unfortunately every one is too much for me!

To me it matters a lot what kind of image Naxos has.




I introduced marketing because that is an essential aspect to Gould's success, and a critical component of what made him "legendary", to use the marketing buzzword you introduced.

Your contention that "[n]obody bothers to market a talentless person" is questionable, to say the least.
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Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Todd

Quote from: 71 dB on May 25, 2017, 08:33:57 AMI asked how often you see a glamour shot? Is that a claim?


To answer your question, almost every month when I peruse new releases.  You claimed that Naxos uses glamour shots rarely.  Clearly, you and I have different understandings of what the word "rarely" means.
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People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

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71 dB

Quote from: Florestan on May 25, 2017, 08:32:56 AM
That is one of the most counterfactual statements ever made on GMG.

I am done with this conversation. I don't care if Glenn Gould was talented or not. He is a legend nevertheless. End of story
Now I go out to get oxygene. I need it. Bye!
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Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW July 2025 "Liminal Feelings"

Brian


Ken B

QuoteWhat next? CPO starts to use cleavage shots?








Florestan

Quote from: 71 dB on May 25, 2017, 08:42:04 AM
I am done with this conversation. I don't care if Glenn Gould was talented or not. He is a legend nevertheless. End of story
Now I go out to get oxygene. I need it. Bye!

Relax, man, I didn't mean Gould. I meant in a general way. If you want an example, think Justin Bieber.

Boy, do you take everything personally!
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

kishnevi

Quote from: 71 dB on May 25, 2017, 08:17:06 AM
What next? CPO starts to use cleavage shots?  ::)


Admittedly, not often...



I suppose it is fair to say Gould has been very hyped over the years.  But so has Lang Lang and so has Martha Argerich. 
The question is, whether he (and they) are worth the hype.  My personal opinion is yes to Gould (and Argerich.....and jury still out on Lang Lang).

Karl Henning

Quote from: 71 dB on May 25, 2017, 08:42:04 AM
I am done with this conversation. I don't care if Glenn Gould was talented or not. He is a legend nevertheless. End of story
Now I go out to get oxygene. I need it. Bye!

Going out for some air is almost always a good idea, though.
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Florestan

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on May 25, 2017, 08:55:45 AM
Going out for some air is almost always a good idea, though.

Fresh air is not enough. Fresh ideas is what are needed more.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Brian

Quote from: Florestan on May 25, 2017, 08:57:22 AM
Fresh air is not enough. Fresh ideas is what are needed more.
Arguably, Scandinavia has too many fresh ideas right now:


;D ;D

Florestan

Quote from: Brian on May 25, 2017, 09:01:40 AM
Arguably, Scandinavia has too many fresh ideas right now:


;D ;D

Excellent!  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Todd

Quote from: Brian on May 25, 2017, 09:01:40 AM
Arguably, Scandinavia has too many fresh ideas right now:


;D ;D


I can't wait for the transcription for kazoo duo.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Ken B

Quote from: Brian on May 25, 2017, 09:01:40 AM
Arguably, Scandinavia has too many fresh ideas right now:


;D ;D

WOW!

I have said often we live in the golden age of the accordion!

Parsifal

Quote from: 71 dB on May 25, 2017, 08:17:06 AMWhat next? CPO starts to use cleavage shots?  ::)

I claim I purchased these strictly for the music contained.

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Draw whatever conclusions you wish from the last one... :)

Florestan

Quote from: Scarpia on May 25, 2017, 09:10:27 AM
I claim I purchased these strictly for the music contained.

We've seen far more outlandish claims.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Pat B

Quote from: 71 dB on May 24, 2017, 11:51:15 AM
I agree with you about the non-existence of consensus, but your conditional logic seems extremely simplistic. I thought only idiots would think like that.  :P

Wow, for someone whose feelings get hurt when somebody critiques a recording you bought, you're awfully quick to pull out "idiot."

North Star

Quote from: Brian on May 25, 2017, 09:01:40 AM
Arguably, Scandinavia has too many fresh ideas right now:


;D ;D
At times likes these, I'm glad to say I don't live in Scandinavia.  :P
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