Top 11-25 composers

[André]

We all fret about the top 10 composers, listing favourites, mostly well-known composers in no need of additional recognition. It's past that mark that things start to become interesting, because choices are more individualized.

So, list your next 11-25 favourite composers and let's have some fun!

[André]

This is my 1-10 list, in no particular order:

Reger
Delius
Elgar
Beethoven
J.S. Bach
Haydn
Prokofiev
Wagner
Bruckner
Arnold

Nos 11-25, again in no particular order:

Brahms
Schubert
C.P.E. Bach
Boccherini
Dvorak
Verdi
Vaughan Williams
Mahler
Koechlin
Shostakovich
Chopin
Schmitt
Sibelius
Tchaikovsky
Stravinsky

I guess I again come up with well-known composers 

[SymphonicAddict]

Top 10 (in alphabetical order):

Beethoven
Brahms
Dvorák
Nielsen
Prokofiev
Respighi
Saint-Saëns
Shostakovich
Tchaikovsky
Vaughan Williams


11-25 (in alphabetical order):

Arnold
Atterberg
Bartók
Bax
Bruckner
Janácek
Langgaard
Mahler
Martinu
Ravel
Schnittke
Schubert
Sibelius
Strauss, Richard
Villa-Lobos

[amw]

my top 10 are:

Beethoven
Schumann
Schubert
Bartók
Bach
Brahms
Mozart
Haydn
Dvořák
Cage

and nos 11-25:

Chopin
Janáček
Holliger
Tchaikovsky
Berlioz
Sciarrino
Webern
Kurtág
Fauré
Ferrari
Stockhausen
Ferneyhough
Kayn
Grisey
Poulenc

all in approximate order of preference/importance

[Mahlerian]

In alphabetical order, because ordering my preferences to an even greater degree would make this feel more arbitrary still:

Top 10?

JS Bach
Beethoven
Brahms
Debussy
Mahler
Monteverdi
Mozart
Schoenberg
Stravinsky
Takemitsu


Next 15?

Bartok
Berg
Boulez
Bruckner
Carter
Chopin
Haydn
Hosokawa
Lassus
Machaut
Ockeghem
Schumann
Sibelius
Wagner
Webern

[Mirror Image]

#1-10 (in no particular order)

Shostakovich
Sibelius
Bartók
Stravinsky
Nielsen
Vaughan Williams
Ravel
Ives
Martinů
Szymanowski

#11-25 (in no particular order)

Villa-Lobos
Prokofiev
Rachmaninov
Debussy
Copland
Elgar
Berg
Mahler
Janáček
Pärt
Barber
Schnittke
Takemitsu
Dvořák
Hartmann (K.A.)

[GioCar]

Ok, let's try

1-2 in that order:
Wagner
JS Bach

3-10 alphabetically:
Beethoven
Berg
Debussy
Mahler
Monteverdi
Mozart
Nono
Schubert

11-25 alphabetically:
Berio
Boulez
Brahms
Chopin
Gesualdo
Haydn
Josquin
Mendelssohn
Puccini
Schoenberg
Schumann
Shostakovich
Stravinsky
Verdi
Vivaldi

[Jaakko Keskinen]

1-10 in order of preference:

Wagner
Debussy
Sibelius
Puccini
Verdi
Beethoven
Berlioz
Rachmaninov
Richard Strauss
Tchaikovsky

11-25, also roughly in order of preference

Saint-Saëns
Liszt
Mahler
Carl Maria von Weber
Korngold
Bax
Stravinsky
Brahms
Ravel
Rimsky-Korsakov
Gounod
Massenet
Myaskovsky
Shostakovich
Haydn

[Brian]

1. Beethoven
2. Dvorak
3. Schubert
4. Haydn
5. Ravel
6. Janacek
7. Berlioz
8. Chopin
9. Brahms
10. Martinu

and then

11. Tchaikovsky
12. Mingus (sorry, purists!)
13. Sibelius
14. Rimsky-Korsakov
15. Roussel
16. Liszt
17. Prokofiev
18. Rachmaninov
19. Grieg
20. Shostakovich
21. Scarlatti
22. Schumann
23. Bruckner
24. Poulenc
25. Kalliwoda
26. Gershwin (for any jerks who will not accept Mingus)

[Jo498]

Your list is not mainly invalid because of Mingus, Kalliwoda or Gershwin but because it lacks both Bach and Mozart

[The One]

5
Bach
Beethoven
Chopin
Mozart
Schubert
10
Brahms
Dvorak
Haydn
Tchaikovsky
Vivaldi
15
Handel
Hummel
Mendelssohn
Schumann
Telemann
20
Boccherini
Monteverdi
Rachmaninoff
Sain-Saens
Weber
25 (Forced)
Bach CPE
Field
Grieg
Paganini
Pergolesi

[Brian]

Your list is not mainly invalid because of Mingus, Kalliwoda or Gershwin but because it lacks both Bach and Mozart

Mozart was in contention for #26!

Oh, forgot Vivaldi. Not sure if/where he would fit.

[ritter]

OK then, here goes:

My top 10 (in chronological order):

Johann Sebastian Bach
Wolgang Amadeus Mozart
Ludwig van Beethoven
Richard Wagner
Claude Debussy
Manuel de Falla
Arnold Schoenberg
George Enescu
Igor Stravinsky
Pierre Boulez

...and my 11 to 25 (alphabetically):

Alban Berg
Luciano Berio
Luigi Boccherini
Ferrucio Busoni
Elliott Carter
Alfredo Casella
Luigi Dallapiccola
Cristóbal Halffter
Joseph Haydn
Ernst Krenek
Bruno Maderna
Gustavo Mahler
Claudio Monteverdi
Maurice Ravel
Gioacchino Rossini

[kyjo]

Top 10 (in somewhat of an order):

Rachmaninoff
Sibelius
Atterberg
Shostakovich
Dvořák
Brahms
Ravel
Mahler
Elgar
Prokofiev

Top 11-25 (in somewhat of an order):

Braga Santos
Hanson
Vaughan Williams
Arnold
Tchaikovsky
Saint-Saëns
Schubert
Nielsen
Ginastera
Schumann
Fauré
Barber
Hindemith
Martinů
Bax

As ever, it's subject to change, but I think I'm pretty content with my top 15 or so for now

[Trout]

My 1-10:

Bach
Beethoven
Finzi
Glass
Josquin
Ligeti
Mahler
Messiaen
Mozart
Sibelius

My 11-25:

Bartók
Berg
Brahms
Debussy
Fauré
Haydn
Ives
Martinů
Murail
Poulenc
Reich
Saariaho
Schnittke
Schoenberg
Stravinsky

[Madiel]

Thread title is misleading. You're all giving composers 1-25 instead of 11-25.

[Josquin13]

11-20: Ockeghem, Machaut, Ciconia, Tallis, Byrd, Prokofiev, Lassus, Schumann, Schubert, Mahler.

21-25: Chopin, Wagner, Brahms, Bruckner, & De Vitry.

I'm very surprised to see Handel only listed in one person's top 25 list so far.  Considering how strongly influenced both Mozart & Beethoven were by Handel, it's most likely that Handel would be on each composers' top 10 list (& certainly on Beethoven's, since we know that he considered Handel, Bach & Mozart to be in a class of their own; although he also greatly admired the "old church" composers too.

I don't see how my top 11-25 can be more interesting than my top 10. I wouldn't be happy if I could only take my 11-25 with me to my desert island, but could be very content with the music of my top 10 on an island for many years:

Josquin Desprez
Guillaume Dufay
J.S.Bach
G.F. Handel
F. J. Haydn
W.A. Mozart
L.V. Beethoven
Claude Debussy
Maurice Ravel
Jean Sibelius

[Jo498]

Handel would have been on Bach's, Haydn's, Mozart's, Beethoven's and probably also on Mendelssohn's and Brahms' top lists. But he became eclipsed by Bach in the late 19th century or so while in Mozart's letters he often writes "Bach and Handel" as if there was hardly any difference and both are apparently taken as exemplars of the "learned style".

It cannot have been quite so simple because both Mozart and Haydn had been educated in the learned style in their youth (with Fux' textbook or similar ones) but were nevertheless very impressed when they got to know some works by Bach and Handel, so it probably was not mere technique (were Handel is not that extraordinary or elaborate compared with Bach) but the combination of learned style and emotional expression or whatever. One also has to keep in mind that Bach's choral music was far less known until the early 19th century (Beethoven probably knew bits of the b minor mass and the St. John's but we don't know for sure whereas he knew most of the important keyboard music by Bach) and that Handel's choral style was not only more accessible but less close to the particular regional lutheran church style so it could be more easily adapted in a later more secularized time.

As for lists in this forum you will note that many have hardly interest in any baroque and others very little opera/vocal so it seems not surprising that Handel is not a frequent guest.
(FWIW I had Handel on 8 or 9 in the top 10 thread although admittedly I don't listen all that much to his music nowadays)

[amw]

Thread title is misleading. You're all giving composers 1-25 instead of 11-25.

Person who started the thread did it, so we followed suit >.> (also since most of us, me included, keep updating our top 10 lists to be "top 10 of the moment", I guess I felt like revisiting my actual top 10 in general, of whom Chopin has fallen out and Cage has taken his place.)

[North Star]

In no particular order

Rakhmaninov
Martinů
Brahms
Liszt
Berlioz
Monteverdi
Josquin
Dvořák
Domenico Scarlatti
Prokofiev
Shostakovich
Schumann
Bartók
Debussy
Schönberg