Your 5 favorite musical forms

[SymphonicAddict]

Give me your 5 favorite musical forms with 5 maximum favorites of each that summarizes your tastes the best. This is a serious list, please take your time by thinking very well about your choices. I expect sincere answers. Mine are:

-Symphonies
-Concertos
-Symphonic/Tone poems
-Piano quintets
-String quartets


1) Symphony
Dvorak - No. 8
Nielsen - No. 5
Brahms - No. 4
Tubin - No. 2
Atterberg - No. 3

2) Concerto
Alwyn - Lyra Angelica
Ravel - Concerto for the left hand
Schnittke - Cello concerto No. 1
Shostakovich - Violin concerto No. 1
Martinu - Oboe concerto

3) Symphonic/Tone poem
Strauss - An Alpine Symphony
Respighi - Church Windows
Smetana - The Moldau
Sibelius - The Wood Nymph
Malipiero - Impressioni dal Vero II

4) Piano quintet
Taneyev
Cras
Vierne
Ornstein
Elgar

5) String quartet
Beethoven - No. 14
Lutoslawski
Prokofiev - No. 2
Janacek - No. 2
Bartok - No. 4

[vandermolen]

Symphonies:

Bruckner No.9
Shostakovich No.4
Vaughan Williams No.6
Miaskovsky No 6
Walton No 1

Concertos

Vaughan Williams Double Piano Concerto
Shostakovich VC No 1
Pettersson VC No 2
Rawsthorne PC 2
Alwyn Violin Concerto

Tone Poems

Sibelius Tapiola
Liadov From the Apocalypse
Sainton Nadir
Rachmaninov The Isle of the Dead
Mazaev The Krasnodonians

Piano Quintets

Bax
Bloch No.1
Shostakovich No.1
Weinberg
Schnittke

Choral

Vaughan Williams: Dona Nobis Pacem
Durufle Requiem
Howells Hymnus Paradisi
Fricker A Vision of Judgment
Vaughan Williams Sancta Civitas

[Jaakko Keskinen]

Operas
Tone poems/symphonic poems
Choral works
Symphonies
Ballets

Operas:
Wagner: Ring (a bit of cheating but oh well)
Puccini: La fanciulla del West
Verdi: Falstaff
R. Strauss: Die Liebe der Danae
Rachmaninoff: The Miserly Knight

Tone/symphonic poems:
Sibelius: Pohjola's daughter
R. Strauss: Tod und Verklärung
Rachmaninoff: The Rock
Dvorak: The Golden Spinning Wheel
Franz Liszt: Ce qu'on entend sur la montagne

Choral works:
J.S.Bach: BWV 65 (Sie werden aus Saba alle kommen)
Walton: Belshazzar's Feast
Sibelius: Snöfrid
Schumann: Das Paradies und die Peri
Handel: Solomon

Symphonies:
Beethoven: Pastoral symphony (no.6)
Brahms: Symphony no. 1
Berlioz: Harold en Italie
Bruckner: Symphony no. 7
Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde

Ballets:
R. Strauss: Josephslegende
Tchaikovsky: The Sleeping Beauty
Stravinsky: The Firebird
Shostakovich: The Golden Age
Ravel: Daphnis et Chloé

[SymphonicAddict]

Interesting examples. I like many of them and there are some I don't know yet (Schumann's Die Paradies und die Peri, Shostakovich's The Golden Age, Mazaev's The Krasnodonians, Fricker's A Vision of Judgment and, overall, operas). I learn very much from you!

[vandermolen]

Interesting examples. I like many of them and there are some I don't know yet (Schumann's Die Paradies und die Peri, Shostakovich's The Golden Age, Mazaev's The Krasnodonians, Fricker's A Vision of Judgment and, overall, operas). I learn very much from you!

And vice versa as far as I'm concerned - remember Bax's Piano Quintet?



PS Here's 'The Krasnodonians' which I only knew as it was in one of those Brilliant boxed sets devoted to works conducted by Svetlanov. I find the work intensely moving:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0qyjcf7tI_U

[kyjo]

-Symphonies
-Concertos
-Tone Poems
-Piano Trios
-Piano Quintets

1) Symphonies
Arnold - no. 5
Atterberg - no. 2
Braga Santos - no. 4
Dvorak - no. 7
Sibelius - no. 2

2) Concertos
Dvorak - Cello Concerto
Karlowicz - Violin Concerto
Saint-Saëns - Piano Concerto no. 1
Sauer - Piano Concerto no. 1
Vasks - Cello Concerto

3) Tone Poems
Balakirev - Tamara
Liszt - Les Preludes
Sibelius - The Wood-Nymph
Strauss - Don Quixote
Zemlinsky - Der Seejungfrau

4) Piano Trios
Andreae - no. 1
Babajanian
Brahms - no. 1
Ravel
Schubert - no. 2

5) Piano Quintets
Bloch - no. 1
Ornstein
Shostakovich
Taneyev
Vaughan Williams


That was tough!

[amw]

Piano sonatas
- beethoven op.111
- beethoven op.106
- schumann Fantasy op.17 (originally titled numerous variants of "Grand Sonata for the Beethoven Monument in three Poems: Ruins, Triumphal Arch, Constellation")
- mozart K576
- chopin op.58

Non-Sonata Piano Cycles?
- schumann Kreisleriana op.16
- schumann Humoreske op.20
- ravel Miroirs
- janáček From the Overgrown Path
- cage Sonatas & Interludes

Scherzi
- chopin no.1 in B minor op.20
- berlioz La reine Mab, ou la fée des songes, from op.17
- mendelssohn Scherzo from A Midsummer Night's Dream op.61
- dvořák Scherzo capriccioso op.66
- prokofiev Suggestion diabolique, op.4 no.4 (not officially titled a scherzo but c'mon, it's obviously one)

String quartets
- haydn op.50 no.1
- beethoven op.130/133
- bartók no.4
- sciarrino 6 quartetti brevi
- finnissy nobody's jig

had to limit to one per composer, also tried to give a good cross-section of the repertoire

Motets & whatever
- josquin Ave Maria
- dunstaple Quam pulchra es
- machaut Fiat voluntas tua/Qui plus aimme/Aucune gent
- palestrina Stabat mater
- gombert In te, Domine, speravi

Kind of ended up limiting this to one per composer and had to do the coin toss with Machaut Tribulatio proxima est/Veni creator spiritus, etc.

Song cycles
- schubert Die schöne Müllerin
- schumann Dichterliebe op.48 (ideally with the four removed songs reinserted)
- szymanowski Songs of a Fairy-Tale Princess op.31
- kurtág Messages of the late Miss R.V. Troussova op.17
- barrett [richard] Opening of the Mouth

[Sergeant Rock]

Symphonies:

Nielsen 3
Sibelius 5
Vaughan Williams 4
Mahler 6
Bruckner 3
Brahms 4
Haydn 99

Symphonic Poems:

Sibelius The Wood-Nymph
Sibelius En saga
Debussy La Mer
Strauss Eine Alpensinfonie
Smetana Má vlast

Opera:

Wagner Der Ring des Nibelungen
Mozart Die Zauberflöte
Strauss Der Rosenkavalier
Korngold Die tote Stadt
Schoenberg Moses und Aron

String Quartets:

Ravel
Haydn op.77/1
Beethoven No.16 op.135
Schoenberg No.2 op.10
Weinberg No.5 op.27
Shostakovich No.7

Piano Sonatas:

Beethoven No.8 op.13 "Pathetique"
Mozart No.11 K.331
Ives No.1
Berg op.1
Strauss op.5

[Jo498]

String quartets
Haydn op.76/5
Mozart K 464
Beethoven op.131
Schubert D 887
Berg Lyric Suite

Symphonies
Mozart Nr. 38 K 504
Haydn Nr. 102
Beethoven Eroica
Brahms Nr. 4
Mahler Nr.9

Piano sonatas
Mozart a minor K 310
Beethoven op.106 and op.109
Schubert D 959
Schumann Fantasy C major (cf. amw why this one should count)

Other piano/keyboard cycle/suite/variation
Bach Well-Tempered Clavier
Beethoven Diabelli Variations
Schumann: Davidsbündlertänze
Chopin Preludes op.28 and Ballades (a little cheating, otherwise only the 4th Ballade or the Polonaise-Fantaisie)

Choral
Bach: Passion according to St. Matthew
Bach b minor Mass
Handel Messiah
Beethoven Missa solemnis
Brahms Ein deutsches Requiem
(secular vocal: Mahler: Das Lied von der Erde)

I would also need operas, songs and song cycles, piano concertos  and other mixed chamber stuff besides string quartets. I could skip most tone poems and non-piano concertos.

[Brian]

Scherzi
- chopin no.1 in B minor op.20
- berlioz La reine Mab, ou la fée des songes, from op.17
- mendelssohn Scherzo from A Midsummer Night's Dream op.61
- dvořák Scherzo capriccioso op.66
- prokofiev Suggestion diabolique, op.4 no.4 (not officially titled a scherzo but c'mon, it's obviously one)

This list, in particular, rules.

EDIT: although now that I think about it my list would be more like

- Berlioz La reine Mab
- Chopin No. 1
- Suk Fantastické scherzo
- Dvořák from Symphony No. 4
- Schubert from quintet D. 956

[vandermolen]

-Symphonies
-Concertos
-Tone Poems
-Piano Trios
-Piano Quintets

1) Symphonies
Arnold - no. 5
Atterberg - no. 2
Braga Santos - no. 4
Dvorak - no. 7
Sibelius - no. 2

2) Concertos
Dvorak - Cello Concerto
Karlowicz - Violin Concerto
Saint-Saëns - Piano Concerto no. 1
Sauer - Piano Concerto no. 1
Vasks - Cello Concerto

3) Tone Poems
Balakirev - Tamara
Liszt - Les Preludes
Sibelius - The Wood-Nymph
Strauss - Don Quixote
Zemlinsky - Der Seejungfrau

4) Piano Trios
Andreae - no. 1
Babajanian
Brahms - no. 1
Ravel
Schubert - no. 2

5) Piano Quintets
Bloch - no. 1
Ornstein
Shostakovich
Taneyev
Vaughan Williams


That was tough!

Nice to see the Vaughan Williams Piano Quintet making an appearance and totally agree with your symphony list Kyle. My brother keeps enthusing to me about Dvorak's 7th Symphony.

[amw]

This list, in particular, rules.

EDIT: although now that I think about it my list would be more like

- Berlioz La reine Mab
- Chopin No. 1
- Suk Fantastické scherzo
- Dvořák from Symphony No. 4
- Schubert from quintet D. 956

I didn't want to stretch it too much by breaking pieces of music up—otherwise Beethoven Op.127, Fauré Op.15, Dvořák 4 & 8, Brahms Op.8 and others would be in the running—but La reine Mab gets done on its own often enough, and is so influential and important, I couldn't resist >.>

Suk is on the shortlist! Also Alkan's Scherzo diabolico, and Dukas's L'apprenti sorcier, and the third of Hindemith's 3 Pieces for Cello and Piano Op.8.

[SymphonicAddict]

-Symphonies
-Concertos
-Tone Poems
-Piano Trios
-Piano Quintets

1) Symphonies
Arnold - no. 5
Atterberg - no. 2
Braga Santos - no. 4
Dvorak - no. 7
Sibelius - no. 2

2) Concertos
Dvorak - Cello Concerto
Karlowicz - Violin Concerto
Saint-Saëns - Piano Concerto no. 1
Sauer - Piano Concerto no. 1
Vasks - Cello Concerto

3) Tone Poems
Balakirev - Tamara
Liszt - Les Preludes
Sibelius - The Wood-Nymph
Strauss - Don Quixote
Zemlinsky - Der Seejungfrau

4) Piano Trios
Andreae - no. 1
Babajanian
Brahms - no. 1
Ravel
Schubert - no. 2

5) Piano Quintets
Bloch - no. 1
Ornstein
Shostakovich
Taneyev
Vaughan Williams


That was tough!

I also regard the Sibelius's 2nd as my favorite, despite it's not as characteristic as the Nos. 3-7. And to be honest, the 1st appeals to me more than the 3rd, 4th and possibly the 6th.

[kyjo]

I also regard the Sibelius's 2nd as my favorite, despite it's not as characteristic as the Nos. 3-7. And to be honest, the 1st appeals to me more than the 3rd, 4th and possibly the 6th.

Agreed - I hold Sibelius' first two symphonies in very high regard even though they're not as individual as nos. 3-7. They're more original than many commentators seem to suggest.

[shirime]

String quartets
Ferneyhough 6
Dillon 6
Lachenmann 3
Ercetin 2
Mozart 19

Non-opera, non-ballet interdisciplinary works
Rykova: 101% Mind Uploading
Sdraulig: Whispering in One Another's Ears
Cage: Europera 3
Lim: Atlas of the Sky
Barrett (R): Dark Matter*

*arguably interdisciplinary due to the use of installation art

Instrument(s) and electronics
Boulez: Répons
Boulez: Anthèmes II
Kokoras: Mutation
Francesconi: Etymo
Avram: Voices of the Desert

Opera
Wagner: Ring
Ferneyhough: Shadowtime
Neuwirth: Lost Highway
Lachenmann: Das Mädchen mit den Schwefelhölzern
Sciarrino: Luci Mie Traditrici
(I really want to put in something by Beat Furrer, but I couldn't decide between Narcissus, Begehren or Narcissus)

Mixed ensemble
Lachenmann: Mouvement
Boulez: Derive II
Mundry: Dufay Bearbeitungen
Wozny: as in a mirror, darkly
Adamek: Sinuous Voices

[Overtones]

1) Concertos
1.1) Sergej Prokofiev, Piano concerto 2 in G minor, op.16
1.2) Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano concerto 5 in E-flat major, op.73
1.3) Sergej Prokofiev, Violin concerto 1 in D major, op.19
1.4) Johan Sibelius, Violin concerto in D minor, op.47
1.5) Alfred Šnitke, Viola concerto

2) Chamber works with piano
2.1) Robert Schumann, Violin sonata 2 in D minor, op.121
2.2) Giya Kancheli, Time... and Again
2.3) Alfred Šnitke, Piano quintet
2.4) Antonín Dvořák, Piano quintet in A major, op.81
2.5) Arvo Pärt, Fratres

3) Symphonies
3.1) Ludwig van Beethoven, Symphony 9 in D minor "Choral", op.125
3.2) Gustav Mahler, Symphony 9
3.3) Ludwig van Beethoven, Symphony 7 in A major, op.92
3.4) Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart, Symphony 41 in C major "Jupiter", K551
3.5) Dmitrij Šostakovič, Symphony 4 in C minor, op.43

4) Solo instrument works
4.1) Ludwig van Beethoven, Piano sonata 29 in B-flat major "Hammerklavier", op.106
4.2) Ferenc Liszt, Piano sonata in B minor, S178
4.3) Johann Sebastian Bach, Goldberg Variations
4.4) Sergej Prokofiev, Piano sonata 6 in A minor, op.82
4.5) Ferenc Liszt, La lugubre gondola 1

5) String chamber works
5.1) Franz Schubert, Quintet in C major, D956
5.2) Dmitrij Šostakovič, String quartet 8 in C minor, op.110
5.3) Ludwig van Beethoven, Grosse Fuge, op.133
5.4) Franz Schubert, String Quartet 14 in D minor "Death and the Maiden", D810
5.5) Leós Janáček, String Quartet 2 "Intimate Letters"

[North Star]

1.4) Johan Sibelius, Violin concerto in D minor, op.47

Jean (or Janne, if you insist on using his given name. but Jean is the 'artist name' that Sibelius used).

Great lists, though.

[Overtones]

Jean (or Janne, if you insist on using his given name. but Jean is the 'artist name' that Sibelius used).

Great lists, though.

Johan may not be the best choice but I would not point it out as incorrect:

Jean Sibelius, born Johan Julius Christian Sibelius (8 December 1865 – 20 September 1957)

(According to Wikipedians, who are quite fastidious in this type of matters )

[North Star]

Johan may not be the best choice but I would not point it out as incorrect:

Jean Sibelius, born Johan Julius Christian Sibelius (8 December 1865 – 20 September 1957)

(According to Wikipedians, who are quite fastidious in this type of matters )

Ah. I forgot about this, you are right of course. Regarding the full name, his parents didn't think as much about the alliteration as Jean did, clearly (from Wikipedia):

Tawaststjerna (1997, p. 15): only in the 1990s was it discovered that Sibelius's original first names (at christening) were Johan Christian Julius; he himself used the order Johan Julius Christian, and that is present in most sources.

[Mirror Image]

Oh boy, let's see....(all choices in no particular order)

Concerti:

Ravel: Concerto for the left-hand
Bartók: Piano Concerto No. 3
Martinů: Oboe Concerto
Stravinsky: Violin Concerto
Poulenc: Concerto for Two Pianos

Ballets:

Debussy: Jeux
Ravel: Ma mère l'oye
Bartók: The Miraculous Mandarin
Stravinsky: Apollon musagète
Prokofiev: Le pas d'acier, Op. 41

Solo Piano:

Debussy: Études
Ravel: Miroirs
Bartók: Out of Doors
Fauré: Nocturne No. 13 in B minor, Op. 119
Janáček: Piano Sonata 1.X.1905

Sonatas for various instruments and piano:

Debussy: Cello Sonata
Ravel: Violin Sonata in G major
Enescu: Cello Sonata No. 2 in C major, Op. 26/2
Barber: Cello Sonata
Poulenc: Clarinet Sonata

Choral:

Debussy: La damoiselle élue
Fauré: Requiem
Duruflé: Requiem
Szymanowski: Litany to the Virgin Mary
Stravinsky: Mass