Favourite orchestral Theme and Variations works

Started by André, January 21, 2019, 04:28:07 PM

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Brahms: Variations on a Theme of Haydn
15 (44.1%)
Dvorak: Symphonic Variations op 78
3 (8.8%)
Strauss: Don Quixote (cello and orch)
8 (23.5%)
Rachmaninoff: Rhapsody on a Theme by Paganini (piano and orch)
12 (35.3%)
Blacher: Paganini Variations
1 (2.9%)
Lutoslawski: Paganini Variations (piano and orch)
2 (5.9%)
Reger: Mozart Variations
3 (8.8%)
Reger: Beethoven Variations
0 (0%)
Reger: Hiller Variations
1 (2.9%)
Schmidt: Variations on a Hussar's Song
0 (0%)
Braunfels: Don Juan Variations
1 (2.9%)
von Koch: Oxberg Variations
0 (0%)
von Dohnányi: Variations on a Nursery Song (piano and orch)
3 (8.8%)
Elgar: Enigma Variations
16 (47.1%)
Tchaikovsky: Rococo Variations
1 (2.9%)
d'Indy: Variations symphoniques (Istar)
0 (0%)
Franck: Variations symphoniques pour piano et orchestre
2 (5.9%)
Britten: A Young Person's Guide to the Orchestra
3 (8.8%)
Britten: Variations on a Theme of Frank Bridge
3 (8.8%)
Bax: symphonic Variations (piano and orch)
4 (11.8%)
Schönberg: Variations opus 21
6 (17.6%)
Walton: Hindemith Variations
3 (8.8%)
Kodály: Peacock Variations
5 (14.7%)
Webern: Variations
5 (14.7%)
Leifs: Pastoral Variations on a Beethoven Theme
0 (0%)
Delius: Appalachia
2 (5.9%)
Vaughan-Williams: Five Variants of Dives and Lazarus
7 (20.6%)
Copland: Orchestral Variations
2 (5.9%)
Bantock: Helena Variations
0 (0%)
Respighi: Metamorphoseon
6 (17.6%)
Tippett: Fantasia concertante on a Theme of Corelli
6 (17.6%)
Braga Santos: Variations on an Alentejo Theme
2 (5.9%)
Hindemith: The Four Temperaments
1 (2.9%)
Simpson: Nielsen Variations
2 (5.9%)
Parry: Symphonic Variations
1 (2.9%)
Arensky: Variations on a Theme by Tchaikovsky
1 (2.9%)
Carter: Variations for Orchestra
7 (20.6%)
Arnold: Variations on a Theme of Ruth Gipps
0 (0%)
Höller: Sweelinck Variationen
0 (0%)
Ginastera: Variaciones concertantes
3 (8.8%)

Total Members Voted: 34

André

This is the NEW poll on orchestral Theme and Variations works.

Thanks all for your suggestions. They helped make the number of entries balloon to an unseemly 39 works ???. The inclusion of some works may push the envelope a bit, so let me remind you of the nature of the poll.

- Works bearing the term Variations as a title or subtitle, or works where score subdivisions are clearly identified as « variation ».

- I have decided not to include variants such as chaconne (Schmidt, Escaich) or passacaglia (Webern, Martin, Schnittke) for practical and technical reasons. They are not based on the conventional notion of theme but rather, as per the wiki entry on the subject, are « a vehicle for variation on a repeated short harmonic progression ». Moot, I agree, but that's where practical considerations weigh in. Which is not to imply that they are not works of great value.

And now...vote !

Mirror Image

Of the ones on this list, I voted for the following:

Elgar: Enigma Variations
Vaughan Williams: Five Variants on 'Dives and Lazarus'
Britten: Variations on a Theme of Frank Bridge
Delius: Appalachia
Copland: Orchestral Variations

springrite

Simpson, Bax, Elgar, Tippett and Lutoslawski (more or less in that order!)
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

JBS

Too many of them I haven't heard, so I won't vote. But Brahms, Elgar, and Rachmaninov would certainly be included.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

springrite

Quote from: JBS on January 21, 2019, 07:19:02 PM
Too many of them I haven't heard, so I won't vote. But Brahms, Elgar, and Rachmaninov would certainly be included.
I haven't heard the Holler, Braunfels, von Koch and Leifs. But some others I have heard but with minimal impression (which in itself is saying something, i guess)
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

ritter

#5
Voted for the Brahms (not that I'm much of a Brahmin, but I do find much to admire and enjoy in the Haydn-Variations), the Walton (great fun), the Schoenberg (a stunning piece IMHO) and the Carter. My fifth choice, alas, is not in the list: Ginastera's Variaciones concertantes.

Great poll, André:) Much music to explore from that list....

vandermolen

Parry: yes,yes,yes. My favourite work by him which I play more than the Enigma
VW: Five Variants....
Walton
Respighi
Copland
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Maestro267

#7
Is the d'Indy "Variations symphoniques" Opus 42, also known as Istar?

André

Quote from: JBS on January 21, 2019, 07:19:02 PM
Too many of them I haven't heard, so I won't vote. But Brahms, Elgar, and Rachmaninov would certainly be included.

You can cast up to 5 votes, less if you want.

André

Quote from: ritter on January 22, 2019, 12:11:35 AM
Voted for the Brahms (not that I'm much of a Brahmin, but I do find much to admire and enjoy in the Haydn-Variations), the Walton (great fun), the Schoenberg (a stunning piece IMHO) and the Carter. My fifth choice, alas, is not in the list: Ginastera's Variaciones concertantes.

Great poll, André:) Much music to explore from that list....

Ginastera is now our 40th entry. If you haven't used your 5th vote, you can select it. :)

André

Quote from: Maestro267 on January 22, 2019, 03:04:44 AM
Is the d'Indy "Variations symphoniques" Opus 42, also known as Istar?

YES. Thanks for the question. I have amended the title to make sure there is no confusion.

André

I went for perennial favourites (Brahms, Elgar, Rachmaninov, Vaughan Williams) and a dark horse, the Don Juan Variations by Braunfels.

But it's a pity to leave out so much great music: Schönberg, d'Indy, Franck, Reger (the Hiller set), von Koch, Delius...

And so much yet to discover... ::)

Jo498

I just realized that before I listened to it on youtube two hours ago I had never heard the Dvorak Symphonic Variations op.78 and only vaguely been aware of their existence...
If I am not mistaken I have heard 24 of the pieces listed although several of them maybe only once.
Tout le malheur des hommes vient d'une seule chose, qui est de ne savoir pas demeurer en repos, dans une chambre.
- Blaise Pascal

ritter

Quote from: André on January 22, 2019, 04:49:31 AM
Ginastera is now our 40th entry. If you haven't used your 5th vote, you can select it. :)
Thanks! I had only voted for four, but it seems I cannot amend my vote to include Ginastera... :(

mc ukrneal

Franck and Britten/Young Person's Guide. None of the others get me excited.
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Draško

Rococo's and Dives and Lazarus are my absolute favorites, after them maybe Brahms, Rachmaninov and Britten's Bridge ones, also Schoenberg, Arensky is nice and Kodaly. I haven't heard quite a few of the others, I'll chase them up on spotify. Thanks for putting up the list, Andre. 8)   

André

Quote from: ritter on January 22, 2019, 05:16:26 AM
Thanks! I had only voted for four, but it seems I cannot amend my vote to include Ginastera... :(

Hmmm... I allowed up to 5 votes, but maybe you can only vote once  ::).

Anyhow, be it known that Ginastera has Ritter's vote !

André

Quote from: Draško on January 22, 2019, 01:53:01 PM
Rococo's and Dives and Lazarus are my absolute favorites, after them maybe Brahms, Rachmaninov and Britten's Bridge ones, also Schoenberg, Arensky is nice and Kodaly. I haven't heard quite a few of the others, I'll chase them up on spotify. Thanks for putting up the list, Andre. 8)   

So many works to discover, and many seem to have ardent advocates. I predict that my credit card will suffer as a consequence  ::).

Daverz

I'd add Salieri's 26 Variations on 'La folia di Spagna' and Geminiani's concerto grosso arrangement of Correlli's Folia variations, the Violin Sonata in D minor, Op. 5 No. 12.

André

No replies in almost a month, time for a roundup:

Elgar, 9 votes
Brahms, Rachmaninoff: 8 votes


Followed by

Vaughan-Williams, Carter: 5 votes
Schönberg, Tippett: 4 votes


12 works were ignored, most of them rarely performed or recorded. Some piqued my curiosity and I will keep them in mind when looking for off-the-beaten path stuff.

Thanks for your participation !