And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

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Quote from: Dowder on May 09, 2020, 08:53:51 AM


Regarding Obama people remember the Tea Party for opposing his Leftist agenda

Obama had no leftist agenda. He was a moderate D.

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Quote from: Dowder on May 09, 2020, 10:55:09 AM
I think it would seem obvious that a nation of five million people should have an easier time dealing with their problems as opposed to a country of 330 million people.

Why? Aren't these problems scalable? Are you saying the US will struggle in everything compared to smaller countries because it has more people? The US has 60 times more people than Finland, but doesn't that mean also 60 times more reasources to deal with them? For every doctor working on Covid-19 vaccine in Finland the US should have 60 doctors. Finland is quite far in developing it's own vaccine. How about US?

This population argument is silly. I guess Vatican City does really well! Finland is the size of a medium size State (e.g. Oregon). The US can do things State by State. Just as European countries operate mosty country by country even when the whole Europe has a population of 747,568,849 as of Thursday, May 7, 2020.
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Quote from: 71 dB on May 09, 2020, 11:26:12 AM
Why? Aren't these problems scalable? Are you saying the US will struggle in everything compared to smaller countries because it has more people? The US has 60 times more people than Finland, but doesn't that mean also 60 times more reasources to deal with them? For every doctor working on Covid-19 vaccine in Finland the US should have 60 doctors. Finland is quite far in developing it's own vaccine. How about US?

This population argument is silly. I guess Vatican City does really well! Finland is the size of a medium size State (e.g. Oregon). The US can do things State by State. Just as European countries operate mosty country by country even when the whole Europe has a population of 747,568,849 as of Thursday, May 7, 2020.
Pretty sure population density has something to do with this. Most of the US is actually fine, it's mostly NYC suffering the most because of population density. Even some big cities, like here in San Antonio it seems to be doing okay. The population density is nothing here compared to there.

And if you wanna bring up highly dense east asian cities, I'm starting to think that perhaps regular usage of face masks helped way more than people are thinking...
Wagie wagie get back in the cagie

71 dB

Quote from: Florestan on May 09, 2020, 11:13:40 AM
You are a moron, a cretin and an idiot, all in one!

I don't know why someone in Romania gets angry when someone calls Americans ignorant and brainwashed. It is a fact. The ignorance of Americans is a well-known thing. Of course not all American are. Lots of Americans are the opposite. Learned, intellectually curious and able to think for themselves. I respect those Americans. They are great people. These people for example knocked countless of doors to campaign for Bernie Sanders to get him elected, to improve the country. Make it better for the regular people. I am not a hater of the US. There is a lot I admire about the US. The state of democracy (the lack of it) is not one of them. Mainstream media in the US is horrible, pure corporate propaganda and unfortunately it means a lot of Americans are ignorant and brainwashed to vote agaisnt their own good. I wish it wasn't this way, but it is, unfortunately and the fact that I bring this fact up doesn't make me a moron, a cretin and an idiot, all in one. It makes me someone who says it like it is. We Finns are like that. We say it like it is. It may hurt you, but it's honest.
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Florestan

Quote from: 71 dB on May 09, 2020, 11:40:56 AM
I don't know why someone in Romania gets angry when someone calls Americans ignorant and brainwashed. It is a fact.

It is not.

QuoteOf course not all American are.

Bingo, Helsinki!

QuoteI am not a hater of the US.

Really???  All your posts show you to be a rabid anti-American.

QuoteThere is a lot I admire about the US.

Liar, liar!

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ritter

#4046
It's not only people in Romania who get annoyed by your constant ramblings insulting Americans, 71 dB. Your absurd notion that anyone who does / did not support Mr. Sanders (as you imply in your above post) is brainwashed and uncultured is simply idiotic, and reflects nothing more than an insane obsession with a failed politician, and an absolute ignorance of the basics about the US (and about democracy in general), fueled by your outlandish, fringe and intellectually void news sources (which, yes, I have checked out of curiosity).

Your posts are a disgrace to this forum, and are annoying in the US, Romania, Spain and probably even in Finland.

Karl Henning

#4047
Quote from: JBS on May 09, 2020, 08:33:21 AM
Why can't you accept the fact that people don't agree with you on rational grounds?

Why can he not, indeed?
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Karl Henning

Quote from: JBS on May 09, 2020, 08:38:34 AM
Ms Reade told a tale that was substantially different last year, but was quite believable in light of Biden's past public behavior with women.
So she needs to explain why she changed the story.

It is also relevant to note that no other woman has come forward to allege Biden assaulted her, unlike Trump.

Someone else who somehow has no investment in listening to reason.
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JBS

Quote from: 71 dB on May 09, 2020, 11:40:56 AM
I don't know why someone in Romania gets angry when someone calls Americans ignorant and brainwashed. It is a fact. The ignorance of Americans is a well-known thing. Of course not all American are. Lots of Americans are the opposite. Learned, intellectually curious and able to think for themselves. I respect those Americans. They are great people. These people for example knocked countless of doors to campaign for Bernie Sanders to get him elected, to improve the country. Make it better for the regular people. I am not a hater of the US. There is a lot I admire about the US. The state of democracy (the lack of it) is not one of them. Mainstream media in the US is horrible, pure corporate propaganda and unfortunately it means a lot of Americans are ignorant and brainwashed to vote agaisnt their own good. I wish it wasn't this way, but it is, unfortunately and the fact that I bring this fact up doesn't make me a moron, a cretin and an idiot, all in one. It makes me someone who says it like it is. We Finns are like that. We say it like it is. It may hurt you, but it's honest.

Sigh.

There are millions of learned, intellectually curious, able to think for themselves Americans who have reached very different conclusions than you. Some of them support Biden. Some of them feel progressive ideas are so bad that it's justified to support Trump.  There are also millions of Americans who are dumb and ignorant and who support Sanders. It runs both ways.

So don't blame things on how dumb and educated we Americans are. A conservative would say that you are dumb, intellectually limited, and brainwashed into supporting progressivism.

You seem to have a severe difficulty in understanding that people can disagree with you because they are using their own minds. Social policy, economics, and politics are not like math problems. There's no one limited set of data that can be examined, verified, and result in one conclusion that everyone agrees on.   So don't sneer at people who disagree with you.

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Karl Henning

Quote from: 71 dB on May 09, 2020, 10:26:51 AM
Americans are ignorant and brainwashed

You, young man are  ignorant, brainwashed and a horse's ass.
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[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: 71 dB on May 09, 2020, 11:40:56 AM
I don't know why someone in Romania gets angry when someone calls Americans ignorant and brainwashed. It is a fact.

Another data point demonstrating that you don't know what a fact is.

And Andrel wasn't upset, he was simply pointing out that you are a cretin and a moron, which is a fact.
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on May 09, 2020, 12:27:41 PM
I say that alright, and I'm not even a conservative, all tests and quizzes I took put me firmly in the center.

He's a hopeless  idiot --- we're wasting too much time on him.





I know I hold no hope for him.
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

71 dB

Quote from: greg on May 09, 2020, 11:33:19 AM
Pretty sure population density has something to do with this. Most of the US is actually fine, it's mostly NYC suffering the most because of population density. Even some big cities, like here in San Antonio it seems to be doing okay. The population density is nothing here compared to there.

And if you wanna bring up highly dense east asian cities, I'm starting to think that perhaps regular usage of face masks helped way more than people are thinking...

Yes, population density is very crucial, but population tells very little about density when we don't know the area the population takes. Belgium for example has been hit HARD by Covid-19 because it's a very densely populated country. Naturally Helsinki area in Finland has most Corona cases/deaths while the sparsely populated areas have hardly any.

Finland: 39 people per mi2
The US: 94 people per mi2
Belgium: 976 people per mi2

It's fair to point out that in NYC where the population density is extremely high (26,403 people per mi2) handling an epidemic is very challenging, but there is not 330 million people in NYC! There is about 8.4 million people!

Wearing masks is perhaps commonplace in the East Asian countries as the air quality can be quite bad. Finland has VERY clean air and people hardly ever use masks here. Now some people here use because of Covid-19.

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71 dB

Quote from: Florestan on May 09, 2020, 11:52:28 AM
It is not.

Bingo, Helsinki!

Really???  All your posts show you to be a rabid anti-American.

Liar, liar!

I admire Kyle Kulinski. He is American... ...you don't so do you have something against Americans?
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Todd

Quote from: 71 dB on May 09, 2020, 11:26:12 AM
Why? Aren't these problems scalable? Are you saying the US will struggle in everything compared to smaller countries because it has more people? The US has 60 times more people than Finland, but doesn't that mean also 60 times more reasources to deal with them? For every doctor working on Covid-19 vaccine in Finland the US should have 60 doctors. Finland is quite far in developing it's own vaccine. How about US?

This population argument is silly. I guess Vatican City does really well! Finland is the size of a medium size State (e.g. Oregon). The US can do things State by State. Just as European countries operate mosty country by country even when the whole Europe has a population of 747,568,849 as of Thursday, May 7, 2020.


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Quote from: ritter on May 09, 2020, 11:57:06 AM
It's not only people in Romania who get annoyed by your constant ramblings insulting Americans, 71 dB. Your absurd notion that anyone who does / did not support Mr. Sanders (as you imply in your above post) is brainwashed and uncultured is simply idiotic, and reflects nothing more than an insane obsession with a failed politician, and an absolute ignorance of the basics about the US (and about democracy in general), fueled by your outlandish, fringe and intellectually void news sources (which, yes, I have checked out of curiosity).

Your posts are a disgrace to this forum, and are annoying in the US, Romania, Spain and probably even in Finland.

Bernie Sanders is hardly a failed politician even if he lost the nomination. He has made lots of amendment is laws and has made social democratic ideas popular. To me it's INSANE to say Bernie Sanders is a bad politician. He is awesome! Amazing. Too bad crony capitalism destroyed a lot of his potential.

Romania, Spain and Finland have single payer healthcare. If you lost it and had to go to US system you'd see my point.
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Quote from: Florestan on May 09, 2020, 12:46:27 PM
Your logic is impeccable --- in that fantasy world of yours. In the real world, you're an idiot.

Call me whatever you want. I have the right to post my opinions. Don't blame me for calling other people brainwashes when you call me an idiot.
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Florestan

#4058
Quote from: 71 dB on May 09, 2020, 12:52:35 PM
I have the right to post my opinions.

Yes, you do, and I will always uphold your right to do it!

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Quote from: Florestan on May 09, 2020, 01:03:03 PM
Yes, you do, and I will always uphold your right to do it!

You are an idiot.

I will always uphold your right to do it too, but I don't call you an idiot. Maybe you as an Romanian think the US is some sort to capitalistic heaven. It is not. It's an oligarchy where regular people have very little say on things while big corporations and billionaires have their say because they can buy the politicians. I don't know much about Romania, but I am sure you as a Romanian enjoy many of the progressive policies I advocate or have you lost your house becuase of illness? Do you have paid sick leave? Paid vacation by law? I don't really know why you disagree with me so much. A lot of European are appalled by the oligarchy in the US. I am not the only one. I think my opinions are pretty normal in European context.
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