And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

[Todd]

Left bucks Biden over Reade allegations

Despite Biden's vehement denials, some progressive candidates — mostly millennials — are siding with his accuser.

Forty percent of Democratic voters under the age of 45 — the core of Sanders' base — said the party should pick a different nominee after watching a video of Biden's denial, according to a Morning Consult poll, whereas only 15 percent of Democrats 45 and up said the same thing. Another survey by Monmouth found that 45 percent of all voters between the ages of 18 and 34 said Reade's allegation is likely true — a larger portion than any other age group.

Our next president sure is a sweetheart.  (Yeah, but, you know, TRUMP!!!)

Republicans have an opening for divide and conquer style politics after Biden wins, and they can foment intraparty fighting among the Dems.  They need to do so as ruthlessly as they can. 

[Todd]

We will, preferably before Biden "wins."

The Economist's thorough analysis - which points out with cold precision why most young and minority voters don't matter a whole lot in the 2020 race - shows that while Trump still leads among White Trash voters, Biden is up five points from HRC.  Biden wins.  And that's not factoring in the approaching economic instability.

But, as always, it never pays to dismiss the incompetence of Dems.  If any party can snatch defeat from the jaws of victory, it is the Democrat party.  See 2016.

[71 dB]

As long as you give government monopoly power there will be those who attempt to use it to their advantage for good and bad. Your dreaded 1% always finds a way. You give people liberty and it will upset any intended patterns for equality.

Those who abuse their political power should be voted OUT in the next election. Somehow Americans are really bad at that. They keep re-electing the same corrupt criminals. It would be so easy to replace Nancy Pelosi with Shahid Buttar for example, but because Americans are so ignorant and brainwashed and the corporate media sucks, only those who follow politics closely outside the corporate media have even heard about Shahid Buttar. Nancy Pelosi has enough money to eat the best ice-cream in the World for the rest of her life. There is no reason she has to keep screwing over Americans. Let Shahid Buttar serve regular people.

[71 dB]

Biden is up five points...

Maybe, but it's popular vote and doesn't matter. Can he win the electorate vote? Can he win the rust belt? Why should people vote for him in the rust belt? Did he promise to bring the outsourced well paying industrial jobs back? I didn't think so. At least Trump understands to LIE about that to get the votes of desperate people. Biden just show his middle finger and shouts "vote for someone else." It's pretty amazing he won the Democratic primary. Well, I take that back. It's not surprising. That kind of things happen in oligarchy.

[Todd]

Maybe, but it's popular vote and doesn't matter. Can he win the electorate vote? Can he win the rust belt? Why should people vote for him in the rust belt? Did he promise to bring the outsourced well paying industrial jobs back? I didn't think so. At least Trump understands to LIE about that to get the votes of desperate people. Biden just show his middle finger and shouts "vote for someone else." It's pretty amazing he won the Democratic primary. Well, I take that back. It's not surprising. That kind of things happen in oligarchy.

You are clueless.

[greg]

By all means let's get back to segregation and wait till everybody has "evolved".

Just occasionally beat up or shoot blacks because they get uppity.

Love the way you use seventies language to support an ancient pov.

Seeing this type of response to what was quoted is exactly what makes me want to stop having any sort of discussions with anyone on the internet any more.

[71 dB]

Joe Crowley was a powerful dude in the HOR but got dethroned by AOC in NY. It happens when enough people turn out, which in the aforementioned case only took 15,000 or so people. The grass roots effort hinged on her identity politics. It worked so don't be too hard on Americans.

AOC is one of the rare success stories. She had 10 times less money than Crowley, but she also had a political message that resonated with people and a strong platform (originally written by Kyle Kulinski). AOC also kept knocking on people's doors to tell about her agenda and it worked. However, it doesn't work always. We'll see if Shahid Buttar is able to beat Nancy Pelosi.

I would say voter apathy is common but perhaps that is a good thing? It demonstrates that the people probably perceive the government is being efficiently ran and thus they can worry less about politics and more on living their lives. Typically a crisis or downturn gets the electorate worked up.

The apathy isn't so much because people think the government is being efficiently ran. It's because people feel politicians don't serve them. The congress has a approval rate of about 20 %!

[JBS]

AOC is one of the rare success stories. She had 10 times less money than Crowley, but she also had a political message that resonated with people and a strong platform (originally written by Kyle Kulinski). AOC also kept knocking on people's doors to tell about her agenda and it worked. However, it doesn't work always. We'll see if Shahid Buttar is able to beat Nancy Pelosi.

The apathy isn't so much because people think the government is being efficiently ran. It's because people feel politicians don't serve them. The congress has a approval rate of about 20 %!

AOC is a Hispanic who represents a district that has been turning heavily Hispanic over the years. And, as you note, she campaigned hard. Those two factors were what gave her the win.

Shahid Buttar may beat Pelosi. In which case Steny Hoyer will become Speaker of the House and Shahid Buttar will be as influential as Sala Burton was in her day.

[Todd]

Good news for creepy, hair-sniffing, dementia-addled Uncle Joe:

Biden raises $2.7 million in first virtual fundraiser with DNC

Biden opens 9-point lead over Trump in Senate battlegrounds: poll

New polling data show Trump faltering in key swing states—here's why

Some portions of this coalition—white evangelical Protestants and white men with less than a college education—are rock-solid. But there is evidence that other groups are beginning to waver. For example, President Trump defeated Hillary Clinton among voters 65 and older by 7 points, 52-45 percent, in 2016. In the latest NBC/WSJ poll, by contrast, Biden led Trump by 9 points, 52-43. Because seniors vote at a higher rate than any other age cohort, the shift in this group alone could be enough to sink the president's prospects in closely contested states.

Biden only needs to stay alive for a few more months for Dems' dreams to come true.  You go, Joe!

[71 dB]

AOC is a Hispanic who represents a district that has been turning heavily Hispanic over the years. And, as you note, she campaigned hard. Those two factors were what gave her the win.

Are Rashida Tlaib's and Ilhan Omar's districts heavily Muslim? Surely they  campaigned hard, but I wouldn't count out the fact that they advocate political agendas very popular among regular people such as living wage, affordable housing, universal healthcare and student loan debt forgiveness.

Shahid Buttar may beat Pelosi. In which case Steny Hoyer will become Speaker of the House and Shahid Buttar will be as influential as Sala Burton was in her day.

Yes, but still better what we have now. Every left-leaning/progressive Democract is a new force to push the Dems to the left.

[JBS]

Are Rashida Tlaib's and Ilhan Omar's districts heavily Muslim? Surely they  campaigned hard, but I wouldn't count out the fact that they advocate political agendas very popular among regular people such as living wage, affordable housing, universal healthcare and student loan debt forgiveness.

Yes, but still better what we have now. Every left-leaning/progressive Democract is a new force to push the Dems to the left.

Omar is a Somali-American, representing the area of the country with what seems to be the highest concentration of Somali-Americans.
Tlaib is from Michigan, which has a high proportion of Arab-Ameticans (Justin Amash is from there), but her district is predominately black. One site I just checked suggested she would win if the black vote were split among four candidates then running. (The column dates from before her election.)

And just a reminder: since progressive programs are not in fact as popular as you think they are,  the further left the Democrats go, the easier it is for Republicans to win nationally. 

[JBS]

Could you at least spell Ms Reade's name correctly?

Those divorce papers only say she complained of sexual harrassment and left Biden's staff because of it. But do not give the identity of the culprit(s).  And her exhusband has now said he's not saying anything and wants nothing to do with this circus.

[71 dB]

And just a reminder: since progressive programs are not in fact as popular as you think they are,  the further left the Democrats go, the easier it is for Republicans to win nationally.

Why are polls lying? Why Did the Dems lose over 1000 seat under Obama while they moved more and more to the right on economic issues? Sorry, but you are totally brainwashed by corporate media. Maybe your social circles are rich and comfortable, but half of American (now even more thanks to Covid-19) are struggling and in desperate need of social democratic policies.

Nancy Pelosi tells Americans who just lost they jobs to buy healthcare insurances. With WHAT MONEY??? They lost their damn JOB! They can't fucking pay their rents and this Nancy Pelosi with two $12.000 refrigerators has the nerve to tell Americans to buy healthcare! THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY!!! That's the FUCKING PROBLEM!!

[JBS]

Why are polls lying? Why Did the Dems lose over 1000 seat under Obama while they moved more and more to the right? Sorry, but you are totally brainwashed by corporate media. Maybe your social circles are rich and comfortable, but half of American (now even more thanks to Covid-19) are struggling and in desperate need of social democratic policies.

Nancy Pelosi tells Americans who just lost they jobs to buy healthcare insurances. With WHAT MONEY??? They lost their damn JOB! They can't fucking pay their rents and this Nancy Pelosi with two $12.000 refrigerators has the nerve to tell Americans to buy healthcare! THEY DON'T HAVE MONEY!!! That's the FUCKING PROBLEM!!

Democrats did not move to the right under Obama. If anything, they moved to the Left. Democrats did significantly better under Clinton, under whom they did in fact move to the right.

And a whole lot of American disagree with you about the need for leftist policies.  And unlike you,  they live here and are not dependent on Youtube for their information. Also, unlike you, they get to vote. Why can't you accept the fact that people don't agree with you on rational grounds?

[JBS]

Continue to ignore it, BS. So much for your principles. 

Ms Reade told a tale that was substantially different last year, but was quite believable in light of Biden's past public behavior with women.
So she needs to explain why she changed the story.

It is also relevant to note that no other woman has come forward to allege Biden assaulted her, unlike Trump.

[JBS]

Clinton tried to move to the Left in his first two years with the attempt at universal health care, tax increases, the Brady Bill, the appointments of RBG and Breyer to the SC, etc. but the midterm losses in 1994 made forced him to move to the Right.

Regarding Obama people remember the Tea Party for opposing his Leftist agenda but forget about the Occupy Wall Street crowd, who reflect the politics of someone like 71 db.  They see Barack as a moderately liberal Republican a la someone like Nelson Rockefeller.

Given the changes in the GOP,  Rockefeller would now likely be categorized as a moderate Democrat.

[JBS]

Perhaps she wasn't comfortable at first detailing all that happened? I dunno. He penetrated her with his fingers and maybe telling the world Joe Biden used her like that was too embarrassing? Who are we to judge and dismiss a victim?

At the time, plenty of people were looking for a moderate alternative to Biden, there were several female candidates who could easily have supported her, and MeToo was in full swing. She would have gotten a much more sympathetic reception back then.

So the change in story is something that needs explanation.

[Todd]

Christine Blasey Ford waited for a suspiciously opportune moment for Justice Kavanaugh to accuse him...

Fixed that for you.

[71 dB]

Democrats did not move to the right under Obama. If anything, they moved to the Left. Democrats did significantly better under Clinton, under whom they did in fact move to the right.

Obama bailed out banks. Started wars. outsourced jobs. NOT LEFT!!!

No, the Dems did not move to the left and under Clinton the whole country was in a totally different political era when Clinton's "triangulation" worked. You tell me why regular American want to support Dems who serve the top 1 %. If they do (and many of them do) is becuase they are totally brainwashed and ignored, but then again many of them don't vote

If the US has the best healthcare in the world then why the fuck are people complaining? Do you think we have people in Finland on the streets demending for profit heathcare because single payer sucks? NO! Because we have a good healtcare system. But you have LOTS of americans demanding medicare for All. YOU CAN't deny that!

And a whole lot of American disagree with you about the need for leftist policies.  And unlike you,  they live here and are not dependent on Youtube for their information. Also, unlike you, they get to vote. Why can't you accept the fact that people don't agree with you on rational grounds?

Americans are ignorant and brainwashed they don't travel and don't know better. Once the do they realize how much their own country sucks. Bernie was number 2 in this race, stopped by the whole establishment. That shows A LOT OF PEOPLE DO SUPPORT HIS policies, in fact MORE so than binden's but they voted for Biden because corporate media brainwashed them with "electability nonsense"

[71 dB]

You really should be worrying about your own country right now and forget American politics, which you have continuously shown you know very little about.

A case in point:

https://yle.fi/uutiset/osasto/news/study_finns_worried_about_economy_loneliness_childcare/11344433

I do and of course Finland is suffering from Covid-19 mess like ALL OTHER COUNTRIES!! In fact Finland is doing pretty well compared to many other countries because we have strong safety nets and relatively competent government (a few mistakes have been made, but overall things have been going pretty well considering what a epic mess Covid-19 is to the World).

Btw, I encourage you to read more YLE news in English, because maybe that helps you to see what news look like when there is not total corporate propaganda involved.