And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

[milk]

     Putin thinks she would take votes from Dems. I think the idea is that there are these Obama-Trump Dems disillusioned with Trump who want a better Russia backed alternative. Who can say? It sounds cuckoo but then Trump is President.

my far-left friends on FB have been anti-anti-tump all along and pushing Tulsi from the start. I'm not totally unsympathetic to some of the stuff they bring up. Some of it. But it's the top of the rock. Again, not that they don't have their points.

[SimonNZ]

my far-left friends on FB have been anti-anti-tump all along and pushing Tulsi from the start. I'm not totally unsympathetic to some of the stuff they bring up. Some of it. But it's the top of the rock. Again, not that they don't have their points.

Really? What do they see as her merits?

[Muzio]

Dems are afraid that Tulsi would split the dem vote and secure a victory for Our President Trump.

While I'm at it, allow me to share with you a beautiful autumn photo from the USA:


(Trump rally, Oct. 17, 2019...)

But here is another take I saw on twitter:

Peter Paschal
@PeterPaschal7
2 hours ago
I think Hillary is subliminally provoking Gabbard to run as a 3rd party candidate, thinking that it will hurt Trump more than the Dem nominee.

[drogulus]

     Putin Chaos theory is what I call Helter Skelter in honor of the American political philosopher C. Manson.

     I wanted to see troll push, here now is troll, pushing.

[milk]

Really? What do they see as her merits?

They think she's anti-imperialism and anti war. They hate America. They think the HK protesters are just CIA stooges and that Putin is no worse, perhaps better, than any American president. They think Tulsi is the true progressive. They think Obama and Clinton were just as bad if not worse than tump. They link to fringe websites everyday, like world socialist something-or-other. It makes me laugh when conservatives called Obama a socialist. They should have a word with these people. One of these guys I knew in college. I'm surprised that some people kind of keep the same thinking for 30 years.

[SimonNZ]

They think she's anti-imperialism and anti war. They hate America. They think the HK protesters are just CIA stooges and that Putin is no worse, perhaps better, than any American president. They think Tulsi is the true progressive. They think Obama and Clinton were just as bad if not worse than tump. They link to fringe websites everyday, like world socialist something-or-other. It makes me laugh when conservatives called Obama a socialist. They should have a word with these people. One of these guys I knew in college. I'm surprised that some people kind of keep the same thinking for 30 years.

Bloody hell. That's the kind of "far left" on those circular graphs where they travel around into the far right.

Weren't there over a quarter million HK protesters? How are they "CIA stooges"?

[milk]

Bloody hell. That's the kind of "far left" on those circular graphs where they travel around into the far right.

Weren't there over a quarter million HK protesters? How are they "CIA stooges"?

Well, there's a germ of truth in everything they say. It's true some American NGOs receive funding from the State Dept. and support organizations in HK under the guise of promoting democracy. I live in Asia, I've met HK students; I try to tell these people on FB that they're not "stooges" of anybody. I'm just searching for a link to show you though you don't actually need to waste your time with it. But just to show I'm not crazy. Here's someone they like who often appears on RT (of course) and has a book too. Danny Haiphong. I'll summarize: he thinks HK protests are CIA and they exist because capitalists are afraid of China's state run successes. I know, it sounds like a joke but they believe it.
https://youtu.be/8yMgft7p46M
Tulsi has had their attention for some time. I wonder what goes on in her head. I guess I should read more of what she's saying. She's a bit odd. For some reason, I kind of trust Bernie Sanders even though I think he can't win and his supporters can be annoying. Those friends of mine on FB generally like him too. But Gabbard has a weird conspiracy vibe about her. I can't put my finger on it. Maybe it's the people she meets with like the Modi from India. He's a creep. Maybe her virulently anti-gay family background. Where the Hmmm... emoji?

[71 dB]

Tulsi Gabbard is a pretty good candidate, but she is polling at 0.8 % I believe.
Tulsi's role in this election has been shaming war friendly corporate hacks and bringing them down in the debates.
Maybe she get's a position in Bernie's admistration? Bernie and Tulsi are both anti-war.

[Todd]

I was surprised to see that Tulsi has managed to stick around to this point.  You go girl, and all that.  She'd better hope she doesn't lose her House seat due to neglect. 

She's too young and too non-Christian to be president.  Also, she's not white.  Her beauty is insufficient to overcome her political weaknesses.  Dems would be wise to select someone who can win.

[71 dB]

She's too young and too non-Christian to be president.

What does her age or religion matter? Are you that much into identity politics? The US is not a Christian theoracy. It is a secular country with freedom of religion, separation of church and state and all that. She is also old enough to legally run for president. You keep telling us non-Americans we don't know anything while demonstrating stunning ignorance yourself of what kind of country you are living in. 

[Florestan]

What does her age or religion matter?

I can hardly wait for Finns electing their 30yo Muslim woman president.

[71 dB]

I can hardly wait for Finns electing their 30yo Muslim woman president.

It depends completely on the politics of said woman. Politics matter.

[Todd]

What does her age or religion matter? Are you that much into identity politics? The US is not a Christian theoracy. It is a secular country with freedom of religion, separation of church and state and all that. She is also old enough to legally run for president. You keep telling us non-Americans we don't know anything while demonstrating stunning ignorance yourself of what kind of country you are living in. 

Age, religion, race, sexuality, and gender are important to many voters.  Large swathes of voters take those factors into account, and a large number rely on them to inform their decision making process.  Pretty much every politician, political strategist, and pundit knows it and comments on it and/or writes about it.  Politicians and their teams formulate electoral strategies taking these factors into consideration.

Your comment on age offers yet another example of your profound ignorance and stupidity (ie, the inability to comprehend the few facts you do know).  Yes, Ms Gabbard is over 35.  She meets the age criterion set forth in Article II.  She is too young to be president.  So is Mr Buttigieg.  Polling and electoral history in the United States very clearly demonstrate that most voters prefer more generally experienced candidates.

In short, you are a moron.

[Muzio]

Guys -- Guys -- Guys!!!!!  It's Happening!!!!!  Big News!!!  From Twitter:

LOUISIANA ELECTION.  Exit polls and post election surveys are in. Republicans received 25% of the Black vote. GOP Black voters was 291% over 2015.  #1 issue for Conservative voting Black Voters was Democrats attacking President Trump.

12:25 AM - 18 Oct 2019

I recently read some analysis of the black Dem vote in America.  If just a small fraction chooses to vote for R, it has the power to easily shift the national outcomes in a yuuge way.  And this is not a small shift in Louisiana.  It indicates that perhaps something big is happening!!!  O Happy We!!!

[Todd]

It indicates that perhaps something big is happening!!!  O Happy We!!!

It's the Kanye factor.

[71 dB]

Guys -- Guys -- Guys!!!!!  It's Happening!!!!!  Big News!!!  From Twitter:

I recently read some analysis of the black Dem vote in America.  If just a small fraction chooses to vote for R, it has the power to easily shift the national outcomes in a yuuge way.  And this is not a small shift in Louisiana.  It indicates that perhaps something big is happening!!!  O Happy We!!!

Gerrymandering is working out for GOP?

[Todd]

Gerrymandering is working out for GOP?

So much for the feted Finnish education system.

[71 dB]

Age, religion, race, sexuality, and gender are important to many voters.  Large swathes of voters take those factors into account, and a large number rely on them to inform their decision making process.  Pretty much every politician, political strategist, and pundit knows it and comments on it and/or writes about it.  Politicians and their teams formulate electoral strategies taking these factors into consideration.

Your comment on age offers yet another example of your profound ignorance and stupidity (ie, the inability to comprehend the few facts you do know).  Yes, Ms Gabbard is over 35.  She meets the age criterion set forth in Article II.  She is too young to be president.  So is Mr Buttigieg.  Polling and electoral history in the United States very clearly demonstrate that most voters prefer more generally experienced candidates.

In short, you are a moron.

Trump is president too and he is mentally 10 years old. Tulsi has 0.8 % support, so it doesn't matter. She doesn't have a chance.

[71 dB]

So much for the feted Finnish education system.

Yeah, Finnish education system didn't tell me about gerrymandering...

[Todd]

Trump is president too and he is mentally 10 years old.

So much for the feted Finnish education system.