And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

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SimonNZ

71db: I was actually hoping for an answer to this question:

Quote from: SimonNZ on February 28, 2020, 11:07:22 AM
What are some of the things Sanders does that, much as you love him, you wish he'd stop? More importantly: what are the occasional policies of his, though you like many, you find you still have to disagree with?

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Quote from: SimonNZ on February 28, 2020, 04:30:47 PM
71db: I was actually hoping for an answer to this question:

Kyle Kulinski has a few disagreements with Bernie, but I don't remember them. Palestines?
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JBS

Quote from: 71 dB on February 28, 2020, 04:36:15 PM
Kyle Kulinski has a few disagreements with Bernie, but I don't remember them. Palestines?

Simon is not interested in Kulinski's disagreements with Bernie.

Simon is interested in your disagreements with Bernie's policies.

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Karl Henning

Quote from: JBS on February 28, 2020, 04:42:47 PM
Simon is not interested in Kulinski's disagreements with Bernie.

Simon is interested in your disagreements with Bernie's policies.

Behold the "free-thinker"!
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SimonNZ

Quote from: JBS on February 28, 2020, 04:42:47 PM
Simon is not interested in Kulinski's disagreements with Bernie.

Simon is interested in your disagreements with Bernie's policies.

Quite so. Any policy or opinion or off the cuff remark of his at all which you thought was at odds with your own worldview.

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SimonNZ

Okay. So what is Sanders position on this and why do you disagree with him?

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Quote from: JBS on February 28, 2020, 04:16:26 PM
A man who has the backing of 30 percent of one party is not a man who has the backing of the majority of American  voters. He merely has the backing of 30 percent of one party.  That's math.  And therefore he has no right to claim to be entitled to the nomination. It's not his, so it can't be stolen from him.  And at the moment about 98 percent of the delegates are yet to be chosen. You are not merely counting your chickens before thet have been hatched. You sre counting them before the eggs have been laid.

People can back many candidates but vote only one. People can back Bernie, Biden AND Warren for example, but when they vote that have to choose only one of those. That's why candidates have larger backing than the votes indicate. Also, other candidates have EVEN lower backing!! Haven't you noticed Bernie is leading national polls??? That is the reason the establishment is panicking!! The others have EVEN LESS right to  claim nomination!! THAT'S MATH TO YOU!!!
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I spend too much time. I should do other things. Go out or something. Clear my head of Bernie...  :P

Quote from: SimonNZ on February 28, 2020, 05:10:49 PM
Okay. So what is Sanders position on this and why do you disagree with him?

Bernie supports job quarantee instead of basic income. Bernie's policy is good, Yang's policy is better.
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SimonNZ

Yeah, see, that's still not disagreeing - that's just a less vocal agreement. I want one example of any kind where you thought he might have been just plain wrong.

(also: aren't Sanders and Yang both calling for a $15ph minimum wage?).

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Quote from: SimonNZ on February 28, 2020, 06:12:45 PM
Yeah, see, that's still not disagreeing - that's just a less vocal agreement. I want one example of any kind where you thought he might have been just plain wrong.

(also: aren't Sanders and Yang both calling for a $15ph minimum wage?).

Well what can I say? I don't support candidates whose policies I don't like. Bernie Sanders may have some small thing here and there I don't agree about, but it's irrelevant as I think as a candidate he is superior to the others.

I'm not sure if Yang calls for $15 minimum wage and it doesn't even matter at this point as he has dropped out.
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Florestan

Quote from: 71 dB on February 29, 2020, 01:20:05 AM
Bernie Sanders may have some small thing here and there I don't agree about

And yet when asked to define precisely those Bernie things you disagree about you were not able to do it.
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Quote from: Florestan on February 29, 2020, 01:55:17 AM
And yet when asked to define precisely those Bernie things you disagree about you were not able to do it.

I don't understand why I am asked to define precisely those things and why I should be able to to define them.
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Karl Henning

Don't worry, Poju: Devoted Trumpkins cannot think of anything bad that Trump has ever done or said, either.
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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 29, 2020, 05:06:40 AM
Don't worry, Poju: Devoted Trumpkins cannot think of anything bad that Trump has ever done or said, either.

Bernie rises minimum wage, Trump puts children in cages. I hope you are not suggesting Trump and Bernie are the same?
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I started to feel this thread does harm to my mental health so I try to be less active and do other things, therapeutic things such as making music and walking outside in the fresh air. It helps. I just need to be careful about becoming too active here, because this forum is toxic af. I don't understand how people into classcal music are so anti-Bernie. I can understand if we have ONE Todd here, but Bernie supporters seem to be a small minority here. I am being attacked for not being able to name negative things about Bernie, the candidate I support while other candidates get a total pass. Biden's gaffes and South Africa lies. Buttigieg's wine cave money. Bloomberg's authoritarian oligarchy. Total pass while Bernie gets attacked for increasing bureaucracy for trying to give everyone healthcare and roof over their head. Crazy!
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Karl Henning

What lesson will you learn if Biden bests Bernie in the Palmetto State?
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on February 29, 2020, 11:17:18 AM
What lesson will you learn if Biden bests Bernie in the Palmetto State?

I don't know what "lesson" that would teach me.  ::)  I expect Biden to win South Carolina. Polls indicate that, don't they?
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Karl Henning

They're calling SC for Biden.  If it holds, it's a win he has desperately needed.

Will any of the laggards drop out?

Steyer's performance was strong enough to sustain a little steam.  Buttigieg (at present) appears to be running ahead of Warren, Klobuchar, & al.

Probably no one wants to drop out before "Super Tuesday."
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His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot