And They're Off! The Democratic Candidates for 2020

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Florestan

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Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 12, 2020, 04:53:39 PM
empty rhetorical flourish.

I've been myself guilty of that so many times, and not solely with regard to Poju!

Politics is the most damned, cursed and unworthy matter of them all! A plague on whoever came with the idea that the majority should rule. Rousseau, you despicable rascal, who pretended to know how children shoudl be raised all the whule you confined your own children to the orphanage! Fuck you and your memory for ever and ever amen! :o
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

71 dB

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on March 12, 2020, 04:42:54 PM
I prefer actual news sources. I thought you had more intelligence then to assert that "821.000 Youtube subsbribers (sic) can't be wrong"

What makes an "actual news source"? 821.000 Youtube subsbribers doesn't mean anything as such. Ben Shapiro has 1 million and I consider his stuff complete nonsense. However, Kyle Kulinski in one of the most respected people on the left and a major player so you can't be surprised if left-leaning people watch his videos.

These are opinions. I think Kulinski is great. You don't. Opinions.
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JBS

Quote from: 71 dB on March 12, 2020, 12:11:50 PM
How do you define real reporting? What makes TYT less real? TYT doesn't take money from Big Pharma. Corporate media takes. Now, explain me the logic of TYT being less real Big Pharma reporting that what you have on corporate media. Do you think you are more likely to expose Big Pharma price gouging when you take their money (showing their adds)?

Kyle and TYT lie, distort, and manipulate facts just as much as the corporate media. Your mistake is not mistrusting the corporate media. Your mistake is trusting TYT and Kyle. They are propagandists. I've given you examples before of how they mistate facts. You just shrug off the facts.

Start assuming everyone is lying, including the ones you sympathize with.  You'll be much better informed ince you do.

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JBS

Quote from: Florestan on March 12, 2020, 04:09:37 PM
If it wouldn't mean losing 8 months of my life, I'd very much like it to be November 2020 next week, so that the whole kerfuffle end one way or another.  ;D

It might be the best way of missing the corona virus.

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Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

SimonNZ

Quote from: 71 dB on March 12, 2020, 05:03:23 PM
What makes an "actual news source"? 821.000 Youtube subsbribers doesn't mean anything as such. Ben Shapiro has 1 million and I consider his stuff complete nonsense. However, Kyle Kulinski in one of the most respected people on the left and a major player so you can't be surprised if left-leaning people watch his videos.

These are opinions. I think Kulinski is great. You don't. Opinions.

I've never heard his name mentioned by anyone outside your posts.

Florestan

Quote from: JBS on March 12, 2020, 05:12:30 PM
Start assuming everyone is lying, including the ones you sympathize with.

I do know everyone is lying, especially the ones I sympathize with. Just today (or yesterday, depending on the time zone) the omes I sympathize with did a big blunder which might result in a boost for the social-democrats. A plague on both their houses!
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Florestan

Quote from: SimonNZ on March 12, 2020, 05:27:21 PM
I've never heard his name mentioned by anyone outside your posts.

Well, much as I would like to agree with you, we both must concede that the GMG is not the whole world.  :)
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JBS

Quote from: SimonNZ on March 12, 2020, 05:27:21 PM
I've never heard his name mentioned by anyone outside your posts.

I asked about him on a political forum when he was first mentioned here. The people there knew of him. But outside of that, I have also never seen him mentioned. The Young Turks are of course better known.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

SimonNZ

Quote from: Florestan on March 12, 2020, 05:33:25 PM
Well, much as I would like to agree with you, we both must concede that the GMG is not the whole world.  :)

I meant if Kyle was so respected id see him quoted or referred to in all sorts of places outside of this forum. Which is not the case.

SimonNZ

Quote from: JBS on March 12, 2020, 05:40:03 PM
I asked about him on a political forum when he was first mentioned here. The people there knew of him. But outside of that, I have also never seen him mentioned. The Young Turks are of course better known.

Actually I'd don't see them mentioned anywhere either.

Karl Henning

Quote from: 71 dB on March 12, 2020, 05:03:23 PM
These are opinions. I think Kulinski is great. You don't. Opinions.

Super Tuesday wasn't an opinion, and you didn't answer. Surprise, surprise!
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nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: SimonNZ on March 12, 2020, 05:49:00 PM
I meant if Kyle was so respected id see him quoted or referred to in all sorts of places outside of this forum. Which is not the case.

Of course. This forum is negligible. We might --- and probably will --- quarrel till kingdom come, while the world would spin around til kingdom come.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

JBS

Quote from: SimonNZ on March 12, 2020, 05:51:03 PM
Actually I'd don't see them mentioned anywhere either.

I have from time to time.
Of course, if Kyle is never mentioned, that means even with only a few mentions TYT is better known.

Of course, if 71db watched CNN and MSNBC, he'd find that while TYT does not appear among their pundits, a number of the regular commentators/analysts are just as leftist as TYT, and sometimes more.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Karl Henning

Bernie Sanders finally wins California


"In the national delegate race, Biden had pulled ahead with 801 delegates to Sanders's 657 before California numbers came in. While we don't yet know how the delegates from California will be divided, those margins are set to tighten slightly but not by much, since Biden will see gains from the state, too."

"By coming in first in California, Sanders may recapture some of the momentum he previously had. The landscape, however, gets a lot tougher for him moving forward."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Herman

Quote from: 71 dB on March 12, 2020, 04:43:23 AM
Whatever you mean by that,

Making superman predictions about the future health of septuagenarians.

71 dB

Quote from: JBS on March 12, 2020, 05:12:30 PM
Kyle and TYT lie, distort, and manipulate facts just as much as the corporate media. Your mistake is not mistrusting the corporate media. Your mistake is trusting TYT and Kyle. They are propagandists. I've given you examples before of how they mistate facts. You just shrug off the facts.

Start assuming everyone is lying, including the ones you sympathize with.  You'll be much better informed ince you do.

Your examples are meaningless because patent laws can be changed and patent laws don't mean you have to price gouge. That  comes because the system and corruption. The government allows Big Pharma of exploit things. TYT even might lie sometimes (I trust them less), but Kyle Kulinski is known as the guy who doesn't lie. Yes, he is a propagandists of progressive ideas and OPENLY admits it. You can't improve the World if you don't do propaganda for the good things that helps people.
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71 dB

Quote from: SimonNZ on March 12, 2020, 05:27:21 PM
I've never heard his name mentioned by anyone outside your posts.

Well, you have been fortunate to finally bump into someone who knows about Kyle Kulinski. Yes, he is unknown outside the lefty bubble because the corporate media behaves like the progressives don't exist.
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#3438
Quote from: JBS on March 12, 2020, 05:40:03 PM
The Young Turks are of course better known.

TYT started 18 years ago I believe so they have been around for so long TYT can vote.  ;D Before starting to follow US politics I had never heard of TYT myself or anyone else of these progressives, but when I started to follow US politics I discovered them fast. It just shows hows clueless you are if you don't follow something.

Personally I trust TYT perhaps least of these progressives. They have somewhat entertaining touch to everything and sometimes I feel they twist things a little bit. They are a somewhat big business and that affects integrity. Money talks. The smaller channels are better and Kyle Kulinski's Secular Talk is perhaps the best. TYT is fun to watch and I enjoy the rants of Cenk and Ana, but one has to be careful with them, because at it's worst TYT might show a video of Trump and say "his lip movement clearly shows he has a malfunction in his brain", but then again at it's best TYT is damn good. Compared to the corporate media, even TYT is a superior source, because corporate media is full on lies and smears to protect the oligarcy.

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Quote from: SimonNZ on March 12, 2020, 05:49:00 PM
I meant if Kyle was so respected id see him quoted or referred to in all sorts of places outside of this forum. Which is not the case.

He is not respected by the corporates. He is an enemy of the corporates, because he makes propaganda for progressive ideas and corporates don't  like that. Kyle Kulinski is highly respected within the progressive circles and apparently you don't visit those circles. That's why you don't see him quoted or referred. However, his name pops out here and there. Look at the Product description of this book. Among the reviewers quoted is Kyle Kulinski:

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Populists-Guide-2020-Right-Rising/dp/1947492454/ref=sr_1_1?crid=2EP3VYX1G0NZA&keywords=krystal+ball&qid=1584096964&s=books&sprefix=krystal+%2Caps%2C178&sr=1-1

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