What are you listening 2 now?

[Florestan]

It's not a Scherzo

Third movement, ABA form. How do you call it then? Minuetto, perhaps? 

[prémont]

Third movement, ABA form. How do you call it then? Minuetto, perhaps? 

Yes, the third movement. The A part could be a menuetto, but the B part is not a trio. Maybe the reason why LvB just called it allegro.

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NP: Reich Jacob's Ladder



Reich at the rehearsal for Jacob's Ladder with the New York Philharmonic


This is such a gorgeous work that reveals its beauty more and more with each successive listen.

[Florestan]

Yes, the third movement. The A part could be a menuetto, but the B part is not a trio. Maybe the reason why LvB just called it allegro.

Andras Schiff disagrees.

https://download.guardian.co.uk/sys-audio/Arts/Culture/2006/11/01/SonataEflatOp.mp3

(from 12:45 onwards; he calls the movement a scherzo and the central section a trio --- and I reckon he knows a thing or two about this stuff)

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NP: Prokofiev Scythian Suite, Op. 40



I haven't listened to any Prokofiev in quite some time. When I'm in the mood for some Russian composers, I usually turn to Shostakovich, Rachmaninov, Stravinsky, Schnittke et. al., but I should pay more attention to Prokofiev.

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NP: Prokofiev Summer Night Suite, Op. 123

[AnotherSpin]

Messiaen: 20 Regards sur l'enfant-Jésus

Pi-hsien Chen

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I always get confused with Solti's Mahler 5 offerings. Does that set contain the 90s live recording Chicago did in Vienna or the one recorded in Chicago in the 70s. I have preferred the latter, but still have both of them in their individual CD incarnations (pictured below).

I laugh at the live cover, for the visual metaphor of Solti walking on water is not a subtle one.
VS

This is Solti's Mahler from the 70s. I haven't heard any of his other 5th recordings. This older one is Chicago is quite good.

[prémont]

Andras Schiff disagrees.

https://download.guardian.co.uk/sys-audio/Arts/Culture/2006/11/01/SonataEflatOp.mp3

(from 12:45 onwards; he calls the movement a scherzo and the central section a trio --- and I reckon he knows a thing or two about this stuff)

I have never been deeply impressed by Andras Schiff's Beethoven. Once I owned his LvB piano sonata set, but I culled it some years ago. So much for completism.

The piece in question (A part) has very little similarity with other pieces LvB names scherzo. The similarity with his menuets is closer but still not striking. The B part (minore) is no trio, rather a kind of toccata. There seems to be a reason why LvB called the movement allegro (without further specification).

[Florestan]

I have never been deeply impressed by Andras Schiff's Beethoven. Once I owned his LvB piano sonata set, but I culled it some years ago. So much for completism.

The piece in question (A part) has very little similarity with other pieces LvB names scherzo. The similarity with his menuets is closer but still not striking. The B part (minore) is no trio, rather a kind of toccata. There seems to be a reason why LvB called the movement allegro (without further specification).

The trio is simply the central section of a scherzo or minuet. There are no rules for how it should sound, and even if there had been such rules back then, Beethoven was surely not the man to abide by them. 😀

Let's agree to disagree and move on.

What's in a name? That which we call a rose
Would smell as sweet by any other name.

[Mister Sharpe]

I'm going to stay in France a bit longer without my long-stay visa!:

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"West Virginia, mountain momma"

NP: Crumb Lux Aeterna

[Linz]

Anton Bruckner Symphony No. 9 in D Minor, 1894 Original Version. Ed. Leopold Nowak
Rundfunk Sinfonieorchester Leipzig. Herbert Kegel

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NP: Glass Mad Rush

[Lisztianwagner]

Arnold Schönberg
Pelleas und Melisande

Herbert von Karajan & Berliner Philharmoniker

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Shakuhachi [The Japanese Flute] - Kohachiro Miyata.

[Brian]

Total sucker for this series.

[Linz]

Carl Nielsen Symphony No. 3, Opus 27c: "Sinfonia "Espansiva"
Symphony No. 4, Opus 29a: "The Inextingishable"
Royal Danish Orchestra,  Paavo Berglund

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Now playing two back-to-back performances of Crumb's Three Early Songs: