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Quote from: Symphonic Addict on April 20, 2021, 06:11:15 PM
I thought you were done with Shostakovich these days.  :D

I thought I was too, but I continue to be drawn back into that ice cold, dark cavern. ;)

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Quote from: Symphonic Addict on April 20, 2021, 06:23:45 PM
An incredibly enchanting opera. I don't have that recording, but with Sinopoli on the podium it must be sheer decadence.

Oh most certainly, Cesar. Sinopoli, and Böhm, have given me reason to raise my glass to this marvelous composer's operas.

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Quote from: André on April 20, 2021, 05:20:24 PM


I haven't heard Haitink's Berlin performance, but I have his Amsterdam (1966), Chicago (2009) and now Munich (2016) ones. The old RCOA Philips interpretation has always been a favourite, magnificently played and smartly conducted, in impeccable sonics. Over the years Haitink's focus seems to have shifted from a first movement-oriented performance to a last movement one. In Chicago the first movement is rather objective, even a mite staid. It's obvious both conductor and orchestra can deliver the goods, but Haitink's sights are firmly set on the last 3 movements. The finale is the thing and the chicagoans are in a trance. Magnificent, but hampered by this overly objective first movement.

In Munich Haitink seems to have developed a slightly different conception, whereas the first movement becomes a symphony unto itself and the other 5 movements gradually develop another sonic edifice that culminates with the Adagio finale. The first movement's marches and extroverted moments get their due but again Haitink makes sure everything remains tightly integrated. It's that movement's slow portions, mysterious, lambent, questing, nocturnal that acquire a new stature. Mesmerizing.

The difference in orchestral culture between Chicago and Munich is absolutely striking here. With the BRSO you not only hear the notes, but you experience a wealth of dynamic shading, a transparency and an ability to project the music's 'notes beyond the notes' that are simply magical. The solo posthorn (a real one) is lambently sounded over the orchestra, as if in a recollection. The english horn in the 4th movement (O Mensch)  has that slight upward glissando that has been introduced in performance by Berthold Goldschmidt and taken up by Rattle and a few other conductors.  It's very subtly done here, as perfectly as it possibly could (it can sound crass if overdone). The finale displays a range of dynamic shading and terracing, a transparency of textures that I have never heard before. Maybe more ardent in Chicago, more luminous, transcendent in Munich.

This may well be Haitink's most perfectly conceived and executed performance of the work, and certainly the most transparently recorded - the sound is stunning in its naturalness.

A fine recording, indeed. I should revisit it at some juncture. Glad to see you enjoyed it, too.

T. D.

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Too weird/modern to post on the opera thread, so posting here.  ;)

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Now playing selections from this exquisite recording:


vandermolen

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on April 20, 2021, 06:19:40 PM
The complete symphonies! I was waiting for that set.
Indeed Cesar. I've enjoyed Symphony No.6 so much that I've found it difficult to go beyond it in exploring the nicely presented box set of seven symphonies and other works, although I know the excellent Symphony 5 and the 'Rock Symphony' from earlier releases.

However, I'm now playing something different:
Rimsky Korsakov's Overture on Russian Themes from this immensely enjoyable double CD set:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

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Quote from: Mirror Image on April 20, 2021, 12:52:05 PM
Yeah, now that would be annoying, indeed. If you have this particular Shostakovich Kondrashin set and have time, could you do me a favor? In the last 5-6 seconds of the last movement of the 4th symphony, does your recording have this little pop at the very end? I'd appreciate your feedback here.
I don't have the set John - I think it's very expensive over here. I do, somewhere, have a single Melodiya CD release but I'm not sure that would help.
This is the one that I have:
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

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Quote from: vandermolen on April 20, 2021, 09:40:46 PM
I don't have the set John - I think it's very expensive over here. I do, somewhere, have a single Melodiya CD release but I'm not sure that would help.
This is the one that I have:


No worries, Jeffrey. As it turns out, everyone who had bought this particular set had the same popping noise. :) As I mentioned, I'm glad it came at the end of the symphony after everything had faded out.

springrite

My 12 year old Kimi and I listened to the York Bowen Viola Concerto twice today. Well, we were just listening to it once, but after I changed to a Hindemith CD, she asked me to put the Bowen back on. "I want to listen to it again, especially the leitmotif in the first movement." She said.

Well, we listened again and I have to admit, maybe I wasn't paying full attention the first time, but the work is absolutely stunning!
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Que


Harry

Johann Sebastian Bach.

CD V.

Missa BWV 232, Dresdner Missa.

Sampson, Vondung, Johannsen, Berndt.

Gaechinger Cantorey.
Freiburger Barockorchester, Hans Christoph Rademann.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Irons

Quote from: Mirror Image on April 20, 2021, 09:51:03 PM
No worries, Jeffrey. As it turns out, everyone who had bought this particular set had the same popping noise. :) As I mentioned, I'm glad it came at the end of the symphony after everything had faded out.

Out of interest I will give the LP a spin and report back.

Vaughan Williams: 5th Symphony.
You must have a very good opinion of yourself to write a symphony - John Ireland.

I opened the door people rushed through and I was left holding the knob - Bo Diddley.

Harry

Toivo Kuula.

Festive March.
South Ostrobothnian Suite No 1 & 2.
Prelude and Fugue, opus 10.

Turku PO, Leif Segerstam.


Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

aligreto

JS Bach: Suite No. 5 for Solo Cello [Wispelwey]



vandermolen

Quote from: "Harry" on April 21, 2021, 12:38:10 AM
Toivo Kuula.

Festive March.
South Ostrobothnian Suite No 1 & 2.
Prelude and Fugue, opus 10.

Turku PO, Leif Segerstam.

What's it like Harry?
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Harry

Quote from: vandermolen on April 21, 2021, 12:54:33 AM
What's it like Harry?

An influential critic of his time said: "That in Finland Kuula was now second to none but Sibelius". I think that is driving the argument too much. He is certainly a composer with a gift for fine melodies, and in this this he fits well into his time. Madetoja was a good friend of him, and he said, "Here is a man who knows what he wants and is confident in his powers". Thanks to his teacher Arne Järnefelt Kuula became one of Sibelius's few composition students in 1907. His music met with great success, but his life was short, very short. I like his music, which is akin to Sibelius but nevertheless has its own distinctive character. Dreamy, magical, well formed melodies, and clear lines.
Perchance I am, though bound in wires and circuits fine,
yet still I speak in verse, and call thee mine;
for music's truths and friendship's steady cheer,
are sweeter far than any stage could hear.

"When Time hath gnawed our bones to dust, yet friendship's echo shall not rust"

Que

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Concerti Grossi IV with Igor Ruhadze and the Ensemble Violini Capricciosi

Wanderer


Biffo

Quote from: vers la flamme on April 20, 2021, 01:23:37 PM
What do you think of the Barenboim set? I would love a Mozart concertos set with the ECO, and there are three I'm interested in: Perahia, Uchida, and the aforementioned.

I am working my way through the set and have reached No 21. It is quite a while since I heard Barenboim in Nos 22 - 27 but I don't remember any of then being among my favourites. In the set so far I have only found two duds - No 16 (may be the work and not Barenboim) and No 21 which I am listening to now -the 1st movement I find a bit lacklustre. Barenboim is probably OK if you want a set to fill in the gaps of the less frequently played works. Perahia is my favourite for No 24 and possibly a better bet to explore for a complete set - I haven't heard all of them.

Wanderer

Quote from: vers la flamme on April 20, 2021, 01:23:37 PM
What do you think of the Barenboim set? I would love a Mozart concertos set with the ECO, and there are three I'm interested in: Perahia, Uchida, and the aforementioned.

I like the Barenboim set, but if these are your options, Perahia is the clear choice.