What are you listening 2 now?

[Sergeant Rock]

Miaskovsky Symphony No. 18 in C major op.42




Sarge

[Karl Henning]

Berlioz
Harold en Italie, Op. 16
Wm Lincer, va
NY Phil
Lenny

Chausson
Poème, Op. 25

Ravel
Tzigane
Zino Francescatti, vn
NY Phil
Lenny

[Florestan]

Masterpieces of harmony, elegance and beauty. God's in His heaven, all's right with the world.

[Mandryka]

Generally I have considered The Sound and the Fury kind of the poor mans Beauty Farm. But some time ago you wrote, that you think they have improved, so I have taken the chance and ordered their de la Rue CDs.

The second is better than the first I think, but they are nonetheless a poor man's Beauty Farm in de la Rue, even at the level of sound engineering.

[Mandryka]

The Beauty Farm has also produced a few "duds" (IMO),

Q

What are you thinking of?

[Traverso]

Mozart

Quintet in C Majot K515
Quintet in D Major K593

The Salomon Quartet

[SonicMan46]

Müller, Iwan (1786-1854) - Clarinet Quartets & Concertos w/ Friederike Roth and others - she performs on a modern instrument - Müller play an important role in the development of the clarinet in the early 19th century as described in the quote and shown in the bottom diagram (one of his clarinets to pictured far right).  Searching Amazon USA, I cannot find much more of his compositions recorded, and would be of interest to hear the works performed on period instruments?  Dave

Iwan Mueller (1786–1854), was an Estonian-born clarinetist, composer and inventor who at the beginning of the 19th century was responsible for a major step forward in the development of the clarinet, the air-tight pad. In 1812, Müller presented his new 13-key clarinet with the pads to the Paris Conservatoire, but they weren't impressed. Nevertheless, Müller's new clarinet with fully chromatic range became popular and the standard clarinet for much of the 19th century. It was further developed into the Öhler system, the prevalent system in Germany today. (Source)

   

 

[Que]

What are you thinking of?

I wasn't convinced by their Ockeghem, for example:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2ARZTXY2BZZEE/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01MSWBUN8

Noticed a recording new to me BTW:

[Mandryka]

I wasn't convinced by their Ockeghem, for example:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2ARZTXY2BZZEE/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01MSWBUN8

Noticed a recording new to me BTW:

I don't have a strong memory of the Ockeghem, for me the Gombert is disappointing, but this reflects my difficulty with the composer I think (and not for want of trying! I just find these late composers very challenging.) Palestrina is off the menu for me.

While we're on early music, let me mention that I've been listening to this one with some pleasure. But it ain't no Beauty Farm.



That cover makes me think of Louis de Funès in Les Gendarmes de Saint Tropez

[Mirror Image]

The exploration continues...

Henze
Undine
Peter Donohoe, piano
London Sinfonietta
Knussen

[Mandryka]

Just a point about de la Rue. I dug out this



Better than their Naxos recording, but that's not what I want to say really. They are amateurs by the standards we're used to, and the vocality is old fashioned, a bit Mary Poppins. But they have the secret of de la Rue - they make the music really take off. And it's clear to me that one trick to make this happen is absolutely clear and independent voices. It's not rocket science but this is essentially contrapuntal music, and that means all the music counts equally, something which others seem to miss.

Ars Antiqua Paris's other strength is that they make it swing - vigorous, exciting, foot tapping. It's full of life, it breathes.

But, as I say, amateur and old fashioned. But that's more than compensated for by other aspects of the music making.

[bhodges]

Schreker: Chamber Symphony (Edo de Waart / Saint Paul Chamber Orchestra, live recording, 1-18-2011) - Gorgeous. (What by this composer isn't gorgeous?) A few audience coughs here and there don't detract; actually they are a welcome, slightly heartbreaking reminder of music with live audiences.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XxKWG1K29v0&t=2s

--Bruce

[Mandryka]

Good exercise for the subwoofers.

[prémont]

I wasn't convinced by their Ockeghem, for example:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-reviews/R2ARZTXY2BZZEE/ref=cm_cr_dp_d_rvw_ttl?ie=UTF8&ASIN=B01MSWBUN8

Gio's opinion I would associate with TSATF's Ockeghem recordings, but not with Beauty Farm's. I like Beauty Farm's ability to create individual voice leading, which none-the -less in contrast to TSATF melts very well together.

[prémont]

But, as I say, amateur and old fashioned. But that's more than compensated for by other aspects of the music making.

Yes, also true of their Machaut recording.

[ritter]

The exploration continues...

Henze
Undine
Peter Donohoe, piano
London Sinfonietta
Knussen

A rather beautiful piece, IMHO. Are you liking it?

Good day to you, John.

[Mirror Image]

A rather beautiful piece, IMHO. Are you liking it?

Good day to you, John.

Good day to you as as well, Rafael. Yes, I'd say this time around I am as I just didn't really understand Henze before. I'm definitely coming to grips with his multitude of styles and the man behind those styles.

[Karl Henning]

Mozart

Quintet in C Majot K515
Quintet in D Major K593

The Salomon Quartet

Very nice!

[Mandryka]

Mozart

Quintet in C Majot K515
Quintet in D Major K593

The Salomon Quartet

I like their Haydn and I like their Mozart quintets and I like them in the last four Mozart quartets. Where I felt slightly disappointed was in the Mozart/Haydn.

[Traverso]

The exploration continues...

Henze
Undine
Peter Donohoe, piano
London Sinfonietta
Knussen

This is real fine music John,all in the great box   I join you