What are you listening 2 now?

[vandermolen]

That is the least of your worries me thinks, we in the Netherlands are totally deprived of the proms, for the BBC channel on which we could always watch has been taken out of the packet of our provider. That is bad, for I always looked forward to the proms. So me thinks, even if you are right about missing all those fine composers, its a luxury problem from my perspective.

Oh, sorry to hear that Harry. Is it a consequence of Brexit?

[Mirror Image]

Totally agree John! 

I appreciate your support, although I knew I was preaching to the choir to some of the members here.

[amw]

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Very rhytmically driven, which is not bad for dance music, but a little heavy-handed in the bass. The fortepiano doesn't sound bad at all, although I wished he used the fabulous Nanette Streicher that Jan Vermeulen used in his complete Schubert set.

I haven't heard this one yet. I really liked the first movement of his D960 (the fortepiano sounds somewhat like a lute, but I enjoyed it personally) and then fell asleep to the Winterreise with Ernst Haefliger, mostly because I was curious as to how good he was in the mid-1990s (answer: yes). Not a comment on the performance; it was two in the morning and I was tired, so something sombre was quite useful.

I'll listen to the entire D960 at some point. Dähler is not the most technically secure of pianists, but that's somewhat understandable given that he trained as a harpsichordist, and doesn't detract from performance quality overall.

[Harry]

Oh, sorry to hear that Harry. Is it a consequence of Brexit?

Yes because of the Brexit. The BBC asked an horrendous amount of money, in fact trice, for giving us access to BBC 3 & 4. Now we have only BBC 1 & 2, and the entertainment channel which is a lot of bull. I was and still am very angry about this as you might imagine.

[Karl Henning]

CDs 8-11

Debussy
Préludes, Books I & II
Images, Sets I & II
Images oubliées
D'un cahier d'esquisses
&c.
Fantaisie pour piano et orchestre

Ravel
Cto in G
Cto in D for the left hand

[Mirror Image]

CDs 8-11

Debussy
Préludes, Books I & II
Images, Sets I & II
Images oubliées
D'un cahier d'esquisses
&c.
Fantaisie pour piano et orchestre

Ravel
Cto in G
Cto in D for the left hand

Nice! Who's the conductor/orchestra in the Ravel, Karl? Fischer and Budapest?

[Karl Henning]

Nice! Who's the conductor/orchestra in the Ravel, Karl? Fischer and Budapest?

Just so.

[Mirror Image]

Just so.

[Mirror Image]

NP:

Braunfels
Piano Concerto, Op. 21
Victor Sangiorgio (piano)
BBC Concert Orchestra
Johannes Wildner

[Dry Brett Kavanaugh]

Not just the Latin Americans, but it seems the Proms is hellbent on ignoring Japan, too. To see a concert program with Ifukube, Ikuma Dan, Takemitsu, Akutagawa, Ishii, Yoshimatsu et. al. would be like spotting a bird that's been extinct for centuries. I used to be intrigued by the BBC Proms until I started looking at their concert programs and then thought, "Nothing special."

Unfortunately these composers are even less known/popular in Japan than they are in the West. That's why I appreciate that you're  listening to their music with an open, unprejudiced attitude. Listeners in Japan are ethno (Western)- centralistic, and they are not interested in music in Asia, Central/South America, or Middle-east. It's unfortunate.

[Roasted Swan]

Not just the Latin Americans, but it seems the Proms is hellbent on ignoring Japan, too. To see a concert program with Ifukube, Ikuma Dan, Takemitsu, Akutagawa, Ishii, Yoshimatsu et. al. would be like spotting a bird that's been extinct for centuries. I used to be intrigued by the BBC Proms until I started looking at their concert programs and then thought, "Nothing special."

One of the major roles of the Proms and indeed the BBC is the educational/Public Service Broadcasting function.  If - as it continues to claim - it is the "World's greatest Classical Music Festival" then it should focus on Classical Music from around the world.  Instead we get programmes featuring (very good) but non-CM artists/composers/genres.  None of which I dislike at all - but it is a bit like going to a fish restaurant and ordering the beef.  Clearly it is possible to programme composers who have recently "emerged" - take Florence Price this year - but I struggle to believe that decision is anything but virtue-signaling and not really based on an objective assessment of the music alone.

[Mirror Image]

Unfortunately these composers are even less known/popular in Japan than they are in the West. That's why I appreciate that you're  listening to their music with an open, unprejudiced attitude. Listeners in Japan are ethno (Western)- centralistic, and they are not interested in music in Asia, Central/South America, or Middle-east. It's unfortunate.

One of the major roles of the Proms and indeed the BBC is the educational/Public Service Broadcasting function.  If - as it continues to claim - it is the "World's greatest Classical Music Festival" then it should focus on Classical Music from around the world.  Instead we get programmes featuring (very good) but non-CM artists/composers/genres.  None of which I dislike at all - but it is a bit like going to a fish restaurant and ordering the beef.  Clearly it is possible to programme composers who have recently "emerged" - take Florence Price this year - but I struggle to believe that decision is anything but virtue-signaling and not really based on an objective assessment of the music alone.

Sad, but true, gentlemen.

[Maestro267]

Tchaikovsky: String Quartet No. 3
Brodsky Quartet

Grieg: Piano Concerto
Andsnes (piano)/Berlin PO/Jansons

Beethoven: Symphony No. 6 ("Pastoral")
Staatskapelle Dresden/C. Davis

[Mirror Image]

Disc 4 (Orchesterlieder) from this Korngold Capriccio box set released not too long ago:

[vandermolen]

Yes because of the Brexit. The BBC asked an horrendous amount of money, in fact trice, for giving us access to BBC 3 & 4. Now we have only BBC 1 & 2, and the entertainment channel which is a lot of bull. I was and still am very angry about this as you might imagine.

I'm sorry to hear this. We all (me, wife, daughter, brother) voted against Brexit. Personally I think that it's a disaster.

[vandermolen]

Vaughan Williams: 'Epithalamion' - one of his most beautiful and underrated works. Lovely late-night listening:

[Lisztianwagner]

Alexander Zemlinsky
Symphonische Gesänge

[Mapman]

Strauss: Rosenkavalier Suite
Andris Nelsons: Gewandhausorchester Leipzig

Beautifully played! The oboist has to much vibrato for my taste, and doesn't quite play with the violin soloist during the waltz. Some of the tempos seem a little on the slow side (such as the presentation of the rose music), but still work. Some other recordings have more prominent horns. I think this is an excellent performance.

[Mirror Image]

Strauss: Rosenkavalier Suite
Andris Nelsons: Gewandhausorchester Leipzig

Beautifully played! The oboist has to much vibrato for my taste, and doesn't quite play with the violin soloist during the waltz. Some of the tempos seem a little on the slow side (such as the presentation of the rose music), but still work. Some other recordings have more prominent horns. I think this is an excellent performance.

Alexander Zemlinsky
Symphonische Gesänge

[prémont]

I knew the name was familiar to me from somewhere -- it's because he did a Musical Offering, dated but nice, he uses some sort of strange sounding keyboard. It looks like there's quite a bit of Bach.

Maybe you also recall his Goldberg variations and Inventions?