What are you listening 2 now?

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Piston: Violin Concerto No. 1

A work imbued with very interesting counterpoint. A shame this is the only performance I know of this work since whereas it's serviceable, I think it needs more commitment.




Ginastera: Piano Concerto No. 1

It stands out in terms of harmony and rhythm rather than melody, but it is a quite engaging work that shows the influence of Bartók.

The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Mapman

Yost: Clarinet Concerto #12
Susanne Heilig, et al.

Enjoyable classical virtuoso pieces. A perfectly fine recording, but Heilig in my opinion isn't as good as, for example, Harold Wright.


Que


Spotted Horses

Quote from: aligreto on August 28, 2022, 11:53:57 AM
That is the most patronising and condescending reaction that I have ever received from any member here ever, particularly from one who frequently posts without any comment whatsoever.

Just remind me please, who are you?

I always try to illustrate why I like or dislike a particular work by giving my reasons. I do not reach for other people's words. I simply try to use my own. "I really like this stuff" is just fatuous and inane and simply, in my opinion, is pointless. What does it convey to a prospective listener?

If you dislike my reviews then simply put me on ignore and just walk away. No need to bite your lip or any other part of your anatomy or for any of your passive aggressive "politeness".

Aligreto

I'd encourage you to post your comments on music you've listened to in whatever format or style suits you. Whether or not I agree with your subjective impressions of a particular piece of music, your enthusiasm comes through, and has on numerous occasions led me to investigate a piece or recording that you have mentioned.


Traverso

Quote from: Spotted Horses on August 28, 2022, 12:35:11 PM
Aligreto

I'd encourage you to post your comments on music you've listened to in whatever format or style suits you. Whether or not I agree with your subjective impressions of a particular piece of music, your enthusiasm comes through, and has on numerous occasions led me to investigate a piece or recording that you have mentioned.

Of course.....,what I wonder is what on earth is served by reducing a forum member's contribution to something that only provokes resentment. What makes his opinion about this so important that you burden the forum with your sour opinions about a forum member.  You do not realize that the many responses given are intended to bring you to reason in this one. This also happened on another forum, albeit with a different subject but with the same obstinacy that made people breathe a sigh of relief when you left there  .

SonicMan46

Quote from: Mapman on August 28, 2022, 12:29:20 PM
Yost: Clarinet Concerto #12
Susanne Heilig, et al.

Enjoyable classical virtuoso pieces. A perfectly fine recording, but Heilig in my opinion isn't as good as, for example, Harold Wright.

    

Hi Mapman - enjoy Yost and his clarinet works - own the CD w/ Heilig and also a MP3 disc of quartets w/ Kotal (added above) - don't know the Harold Wright recording but see that Dieter Klocker also recorded these concertos - anyone heard the latter's recording?  Dave :)

Mapman

Quote from: SonicMan46 on August 28, 2022, 01:20:22 PM
Hi Mapman - enjoy Yost and his clarinet works - own the CD w/ Heilig and also a MP3 disc of quartets w/ Kotal (added above) - don't know the Harold Wright recording but see that Dieter Klocker also recorded these concertos - anyone heard the latter's recording?  Dave :)

Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that Harold Wright recorded Yost. I just meant that I like him better as a clarinetist. I'd be curious about Klöcker's recording: I don't remember much about him as a clarinetist, but he did great work finding neglected clarinet music.

aligreto

Quote from: absolutelybaching on August 28, 2022, 12:04:23 PM
Does it matter?
Would it help if I cite my degrees? Or my work experience?

Seriously: what a weird reaction to a critique. It's either valid or invalid: "who I am" doesn't come into it.

That you like something.

What else are you trying to convey?

What do you think 'this intense work is full of intensity' conveys, exactly?

Well, if I have to do that, I'll do that. I thought it worth pointing out the word-salad-ness of your posts at times, in the hope it might provoke some self-reflection, since you offered one on a composer about whom I know probably more than most, and whose vacuousness was therefore more than usually apparent to me. But you do you. I'll do me. And if the ignore option is the only thing that can spare me your contributions, so be it.

I find your arrogance to be simply stupefying.
For one who has had relatively little to say thus far I feel that your true colours have emerged this evening. As I have already suggested, put me on ignore and your problem is solved.

As has already been said, let this be the end to this conversation please from all concerned. I, for one, feel no need to feed another member's ego.

Could members stop responding to this conversation please as I intend to do.

This is not what this forum is supposed to be about. I have no intention of losing sleep over someone's irritation with my posting style.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on August 28, 2022, 11:55:50 AM
One of the towering masterpieces of the 20th century IMO. Awesome piece.

Indeed, awesome.

Sarge

the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Todd

The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

San Antone

Janácek: String Quartets - String Quartet No. 2, "Intimate Letters"
Alban Berg Quartet


aligreto

Portuguese Polyphony [Holten]:





Magalhães: Missa O Soberana luz


I started today's listening with the Magalhães Missa O Soberana luz. I conclude today's listening with two more from the same composer:

Vidi aquam: I find this to be a very fine if short work. I particularly like the soprano element of the vocal scoring.
Commissa mea pavesco: The major strength of this work, for me, is the contrapuntal writing.


SonicMan46

Quote from: Mapman on August 28, 2022, 01:39:59 PM
Sorry, I didn't mean to imply that Harold Wright recorded Yost. I just meant that I like him better as a clarinetist. I'd be curious about Klöcker's recording: I don't remember much about him as a clarinetist, but he did great work finding neglected clarinet music.

No problem - could not find Wright and Yost together after a brief search - I have a lot of Klöcker and always enjoy (of course, he plays a modern instrument and some of his 'discovered' repertoire might sound more interesting on period clarinets, but kind of my bias) - now would what we own of his concertos be better w/ him or with Heilig - don't know?  Guess I'll have to visit Spotify and see if I can sample both - Dave :)

Brian

The mistake that absolutelybaching made in this thread was to assume that other people want advice on their writing style and offer patronizing, rude advice on how to be a better writer. Such advice was not sought or requested.

If this was the "how can I write better listening notes?" thread, maybe that post would fit in well. As is, it's an unprovoked attack, like if I visited a friend's house and told them the paint in the dining room was a bad color and the chairs were uncomfortable.

The other mistake absolutelybaching made was to assume that any GMGer owes anything to another. We are all hobbyists having fun. We converse by choice. I find many posters here to be incredibly useful and interesting and helpful - including both absolutely and aligreto (and everyone else who has weighed in).

But we are all friends chatting to pass time. I don't demand other people contribute things for my benefit, and I don't believe it is reasonable of anyone here to make demands of each other.

vandermolen

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on August 28, 2022, 11:55:50 AM
One of the towering masterpieces of the 20th century IMO. Awesome piece.
I agree Cesar and I'm really looking forward to hearing the new recording of 'Mystery of Time' - only the second one AFAIK.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

vandermolen

Quote from: Brian on August 28, 2022, 04:33:14 PM
The mistake that absolutelybaching made in this thread was to assume that other people want advice on their writing style and offer patronizing, rude advice on how to be a better writer. Such advice was not sought or requested.

If this was the "how can I write better listening notes?" thread, maybe that post would fit in well. As is, it's an unprovoked attack, like if I visited a friend's house and told them the paint in the dining room was a bad color and the chairs were uncomfortable.

The other mistake absolutelybaching made was to assume that any GMGer owes anything to another. We are all hobbyists having fun. We converse by choice. I find many posters here to be incredibly useful and interesting and helpful - including both absolutely and aligreto (and everyone else who has weighed in).

But we are all friends chatting to pass time. I don't demand other people contribute things for my benefit, and I don't believe it is reasonable of anyone here to make demands of each other.
I very much agree with what I have highlighted in bold. I have no technical knowledge of music at all but that doesn't stop me commenting ad nauseum on my favourite works and even writing the occasional CD booklet notes. Personally I like Aligreto's thoughtful reviews and the fact that he bothers to write them at all.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Mapman

Dvořák: Slavonic Dances, Op. 46
Dorati: Royal Philharmonic

Unfortunately, I am not impressed by this performance. In #8, the timpani are a bit hard to hear. In #1, the first theme, it sounds like there are hemiolas in the 3rd-4th measures, as well as 1st-2nd. I compared with Szell/Cleveland, where the downbeat of measure 4 can be clearly heard (as well as the accent on the 2nd beat). The orchestral clarity isn't great overall.


JBS

After reading today's posts, I definitely need this music

Only the Preludes; Children's Corner appears on a different CD in this set.

Hollywood Beach Broadwalk

Karl Henning

Quote from: JBS on August 28, 2022, 05:24:17 PM
After reading today's posts, I definitely need this music

Only the Preludes; Children's Corner appears on a different CD in this set.

Superb!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: vandermolen on August 28, 2022, 04:51:38 PM
I agree Cesar and I'm really looking forward to hearing the new recording of 'Mystery of Time' - only the second one AFAIK.

Ah yes, I also am aware of that new release, Jeffrey. New recordings of this work and composer are always welcome.
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.