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Traverso

Shostakovich

Song of the Forests Op.81

Royal Philharmonic Orchestra



 

Madiel

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Quote from: prémont on May 03, 2025, 11:07:34 AMHow music was listened to in the Baroque period does not oblige us in any way.

However, I think how music was composed for listening to in the Baroque period might be a good thing to inform ourselves with when listening to Baroque music.

I've rarely understood the desire to listen to a whole CDs worth of music when the music was not originally designed to be listened to in that length. Any decent music has a plan to its beginning, middle and end. But our culture is increasingly against endings.
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Madiel

Stravinsky: The Rake's Progress - so far 2 Acts on OperaVision.

I'm in danger of falling down the OperaVision rabbit hole now that I've got in the habit. On this occasion I'm slightly grateful for the option of subtitles - the English of the opera is sometimes quite old-fashioned, never mind any difficulties from an operatic singing style. The word "viands" has been used which is not a word I would ever guess if it wasn't on screen.

The music is frequently gorgeous. One of the last things in Stravinsky's neoclassical period.
Every single post on the forum is unnecessary. Including the ones that are interesting or useful.

DavidW


Traverso


Der lächelnde Schatten

Now playing Koechlin Vers la voûte étoilée, Op. 129

"Even the darkest night will end and the sun will rise." ― Victor Hugo

Roasted Swan

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 03, 2025, 06:33:42 PMAlfredo Campoli and London Philharmonic Orchestra/Pierino Gamba.






LOVE Campoli!

Florestan

Quote from: Madiel on Today at 05:06:32 AMI've rarely understood the desire to listen to a whole CDs worth of music when the music was not originally designed to be listened to in that length.

Especially when the CD contains the same genre in several guises, for instance six violin concertos. Whoever listened back then to six violin concertos in a row?
"Great music is that which penetrates the ear with facility and leaves the memory with difficulty. Magical music never leaves the memory." — Thomas Beecham

prémont

Quote from: Madiel on Today at 05:06:32 AMHowever, I think how music was composed for listening to in the Baroque period might be a good thing to inform ourselves with when listening to Baroque music.

I've rarely understood the desire to listen to a whole CDs worth of music when the music was not originally designed to be listened to in that length.....


Listening to music nowadays is of course an abstraction where lots of compromises have to be done, concerning home listening maybe the most.

For instance I don't wear a wig when I am listening to Baroque music, and my HIFI system and my rather modern apartment are as anachronistic as it gets.

But I am thankful for the fact that I to day can listen to music in the way I want, instead of having to accept the most often unserviceable circumstances in earlier ages.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Spotted Horses

I listened to the Gipps oboe sonata a few days ago, and it brought to mind a work I remember listening to at least a decade ago, the Howells clarinet sonata. I couldn't say exactly why, of all of the sonatas for wood instrument and piano, it reminded me of this one. Something about the rhapsodic writing for the oboe, and the rich harmonic texture.



Anyway, I went back to the Howells piece in the Thea King recording on Hyperion. Utterly brilliant work in two movements, the first slow, the second fast, although both movements have dramatic shifts in tempo.



I'm also reminded of the wonderful series of recordings Thea King made for Hyperion in the 80's, including many works by British composers (Maconchy, Frankel, Cooke, Jacobs) etc, as well as more mainstream works (Brahms, Mozart). Time for a revisit.
Formerly Scarpia (Scarps), Baron Scarpia, Ghost of Baron Scarpia, Varner, Ratliff, Parsifal, perhaps others.

Spotted Horses

Following on my rediscovery of the Howells clarinet sonata, listening to the Howells oboe sonata. Following with the Rubbra oboe sonata, which is another beautiful, richly conceived work.

Formerly Scarpia (Scarps), Baron Scarpia, Ghost of Baron Scarpia, Varner, Ratliff, Parsifal, perhaps others.

Harry

PROKOFIEV, Sergei Sergeyevich (1891-1953).
Romeo and Juliet.
Suite No.1, Op. 64bis (1936); Suite No.2, Op. 64ter (1936) Suite No.3, Op. 101 (1946).
Performed in the order the music appears in the ballet score!
Bergen Philharmonic Orchestra, Andrew Litton.
Recorded in June 2005 at the Grieg Hall, Bergen, Norway.


This recording got a lot of negative flac, so of course I wanted to know why. Andrew Litton is a conductor I highly respect, hearing his recordings for quite some years, so time for me to check this one out, and find out if it deserved the criticism it got from a few quarters. It got thumbs down on the recording, performance and expression, lack of passion, ragged ensemble playing, lack of instrumental coherence, and imprecise in the department of woodwinds, etc, etc, with other words a total letdown. I have some things to add in this respect; the recording quality is SOTA as per usual by the likes of BIS, the performance is of a total different level, true the intense drama is lost on Litton, the passion is not absent, but rather of a polite character, a performance totally focused on the ballet, and accordingly the tempo's fitted to the movement of the corps de ballet. This is understandable, but where the passion is needed it comes out, but not in a loud manner, that's all. I did not hear ragged playing, but only a few musical impurities, in the woodwinds, but nothing to get irritated about. What you get is not orchestral bombast, but delicately formed details that tell a lot more about the music, as I heard in other performances. A lot of those details I did not hear before. Therefore, recommended.
I've always had great respect for Paddington because he is amusingly English and a eccentric bear He is a great British institution and emits great wisdom with every growl. Of course I have Paddington at home, he is a member of the family, sure he is from the moment he was born. We have adopted him.

Karl Henning

Quote from: prémont on May 03, 2025, 11:07:34 AMHow music was listened to in the Baroque period does not oblige us in any way. I simply wanted to point out to Mandryka that the CD in question might - for the reason Mandryka states - be better served by being listened to in smaller bits at a time.
I find just the same with Webern, e.g.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Symphonic Addict on May 03, 2025, 11:12:15 AMThe third quartet was composed as a reaction to the invasion of Iraq in 2003 and the fourth one was inspired by Brueghel's paintings of children's games. Very raw, rough, distressing music, but also stimulating.


I must listen to his cycle at some point!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Christo on May 03, 2025, 10:33:01 PMThere is. Heard it live in Amsterdam in December, paired with Dona Nobis Pacem by Vaughan Williams. On that occasion I had plenty of time to peruse Tippett's own lyrics more seriously, and I didn't find it easy: suggestive drivel, if you will. Thus the whole piece, typically Tippett, hangs together from associations. By comparison, Vaughan Williams won on all fronts. With Tippett I especially appreciate the four symphonies, also often associative but in symphonic form I can appreciate that.  :)
Sounds like great programming. 
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Harry

Pyotr Il'yich Tchaikovsky (1840–1893).
Orchestral Works, Volume I.
See back cover for details.
BBC Scottish Symphony Orchestra, Alpesh Chauhan.
Recording venue City Halls, Glasgow; 18 – 20 July 2022.


A few days ago, I played Volume 2 in this series and was impressed, by the light he shed on the music by Pyotr Il'yich Tchaikovsky, light that made this music a lot more interesting in ways it can be expressed. And I was also amazed because this conductor dug out details of the music that escaped me in previous recordings. It had a lot to do with the SOTA recording Chandos produced. Even the pppp came through clear as a bell. That means I could connect other melodies better in the total picture. I was rather negative when the first volume came out, in terms of, to slow, no intensity or God forbid an excess of passion. None of this. But when hearing the second volume I decided to try it again, and it clicked right away. The sound is not as good, still very slow, but boy what a details emerged. All the pieces, apart of Francesca da Rimini, are not often recorded, and to be frank it does not make a lasting impression on me, but still I got much pleasure in the detailing. Francesca da Rimini, gets a ravishing performance, and is slightly better recorded.
I've always had great respect for Paddington because he is amusingly English and a eccentric bear He is a great British institution and emits great wisdom with every growl. Of course I have Paddington at home, he is a member of the family, sure he is from the moment he was born. We have adopted him.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Traverso on Today at 04:50:46 AMShostakovich

Song of the Forests Op.81

Royal Philharmonic Orchestra



 

An unalloyedly fine piece, which surprised me a little simply because I first became aware of it from a critic's easy derision.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

ritter

Reynaldo Hahn: Le Rossignol éperdu (first suite). Earl Wild (piano).

 « Et n'oubliez pas que le trombone est à Voltaire ce que l'optimisme est à la percussion. » 

SonicMan46

#128699
Hoffmeister, Franz Anton (1754-1812) - Clarinet Quartets & Duo Sonatas on the recordings below; short bio also; Hoffmeister was an important composer and music publisher in Vienna - his oeuvre does not seen to be catalogued but he wrote dozens of works for the flute (chamber and many concertos), over 50 Symphonies and more - I own about 20 recordings (click on the attachment if interested).  The clarinet works are excellent but for us period instrument aficionados, all are done on modern instruments - now where is Eric Hoeprich when needed?  ;D   Dave

ADDENDUM: According to Klöcker's notes, Hoffmeister wrote 2 sets of 6 clarinet quartets each - they play 4 from the second set; the first 6 were published by Pleyel in Paris and are performed in the second recording shown.

QuoteFranz Anton Hoffmeister was a German and Austrian composer and music publisher. At the age of fourteen, he went to Vienna to study law. Following his studies, however, he decided on a career in music and by the 1780s he had become one of the city's most popular composers. However, his reputation today rests mainly as a music publisher. By 1785 he had established one of Vienna's first music publishing businesses, second only to Artaria & Co, which had started five years earlier. Hoffmeister published his own works as well as those of many important composers, including Haydn, Mozart, Beethoven, Clementi, Albrechtsberger, et al. These famous composers were also among Hoffmeister's personal friends: Mozart dedicated his String Quartet in D to him. (Source)