What are you listening 2 now?

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Florestan

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Quote from: Henk on June 22, 2025, 12:52:12 PMDo you mean a account of compositions or also performances? I mean the latter. Does it hang in the air? In jazz there is the Penguin Guide. I don't know something like this exists in classical music. Otherwise what is called loosely 'classic' has no substance. GMG can be called a collective, but it's an island.

When you have contacts in the world of classical music it might be different. Please explain to me if you like.

But classic means standing the test of time. Imo a recording rarely does so, agreed upon by many, but I can't really tell, I just assume.. How many are needed, it needs to have some charism, how does a recording gets fame?

Quote from: Henk on June 22, 2025, 01:15:37 PMFor whom? The recording of which you write it's a classic, who on this forum can confirm? How do you know of the outside world? My guess is that when you are immersed in the classical world of theatres and composing like you, you can possibly tell and it becomes intuition, a feel. Is that the case? But that's not the case for me, I just listen to stuff in my living room, more or less isolated except for GMG.

See also my discussion in the jazz board, very much related. I want to discuss this thing, it's important imo for culture and for knowing in what kind of world we live.. https://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,34475.msg1624128/topicseen.html#msg1624128

Quote from: Henk on June 22, 2025, 02:34:01 PMOne more try to clarify: How do you know if a recording has general satisfaction?

Have you been drinking something strong, Henk? For Pete's sake, stop this useless hair-splitting! By all standards that recording is indeed a classic.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Florestan



I have a soft spot for the Venetian Baroque, of which Albinoni is a consummated master. Once I start listening, I can't get enough of this unfailingly euphonic and decidedly life-affirming music, devoid of any and all neurosis and anxiety. Balm for ears, mind and soul and a glimpse into a lost world which, if it didn't have the best that ours can offer, at least had few if anything of the worst.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

prémont

Quote from: Que on June 23, 2025, 12:50:30 AM

Nice. Great singing, but I'm not fond of the brass winds as instrumental accompaniment.

PS Al in all, not a "keeper".

In a rarely recorded repertoire you can't get everything in your own way.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

prémont

Quote from: Florestan on June 23, 2025, 02:02:25 AMHave you been drinking something strong, Henk? For Pete's sake, stop this useless hair-splitting! By all standards that recording is indeed a classic.

+1
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Iota

Quote from: Que on June 23, 2025, 01:43:34 AM"The Brook Street Band takes its name from the London street where composer George Frideric Handel lived from 1723-1759."

But it is a remarkable coincidence!  :laugh:

Haha, yes it is!

Actually now you mention it I think I did (once) know that .. information retention seems to become a more uphill battle, the further down the age slope one goes ..  ::)

Que

Quote from: prémont on June 23, 2025, 02:24:36 AMIn a rarely recorded repertoire you can't get everything in your own way.

General fact of life.

Florestan

Quote from: Iota on June 21, 2025, 10:01:06 AMI don't find them bad, but by Schumann's very high standards, all the pieces apart from the ones I mentioned just seem rather ordinary to me. Not 'off-putting' exactly, but they don't excite me either.

I see. Well, to each their own, right?  :laugh:
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Que


AnotherSpin

From YouTube:



Orgelconcert in de Martinikerk te Groningen

Leo van Doeselaar

Iota

Quote from: Florestan on June 23, 2025, 02:41:47 AMI see. Well, to each their own, right?  :laugh:

Yes indeed. As I said, I think that I'm a very remote outlier on this one, I've never come across anybody else sharing my view.  :)

Henk

Quote from: AnotherSpin on June 22, 2025, 08:38:50 PMHenk, I don't think there's much to discuss here — the word "classic" doesn't really mean anything in this context. Most likely, the person just means, "I like it, and I'm sure a couple of others who think like me would agree." With that kind of logic, anything can be called a classic — even a McDonald's burger or the next Marvel movie.

Indeed, that's what I was thinking too.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

Henk

Quote from: Florestan on June 23, 2025, 02:02:25 AMHave you been drinking something strong, Henk? For Pete's sake, stop this useless hair-splitting! By all standards that recording is indeed a classic.

I was stopping already.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

Henk

Quote from: Florestan on June 23, 2025, 01:56:10 AMOne which, moreover, it's widely regarded by the classical music community, critics and listeners alike, as one of the best in the repertoire. Hence, a classic indeed.



That's the answer on my question. Thanks. But with streaming albums become a throw-away product.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

Traverso


Dry Brett Kavanaugh


SonicMan46

Locatelli, Pietro (1695-1764) - Flute Sonatas (Op.2/5) & Concerti Grossi (Op.1,4,7) from the top two pics below. Locatelli was an Italian Baroque composer and violinist. When he went to Amsterdam in 1729, he discovered the centre of European music publishing. He published his Opp. 2–6, 8 and 9 and a new edition of Op. 1 in Amsterdam, and Op. 7 in the neighboring city of Leiden. My collection consists of 18 CDs (see attachment); note the Ruhadze volumes have been boxed up as a 21 CD offering (bottom two pics).  Dave

 

 

Traverso

Schubert Symphony No.5 & 6




DavidW

Quote from: Henk on June 22, 2025, 02:34:01 PMOne more try to clarify: How do you know if a recording has general satisfaction?

Amadeus Q is overshadowed by Grumiaux, Talich, Griller, Melos, and Auryn. I picked them for a taste of something different with the chance that I don't like it. That recording doesn't necessarily provide general satisfaction. Especially on this forum which emphasizes modern era and baroque.

Der lächelnde Schatten

NP: Beethoven Piano Sonata No. 23 in F minor, Op. 57, "Appassionata"

"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann

Der lächelnde Schatten

"To send light into the darkness of men's hearts - such is the duty of the artist." ― Robert Schumann