What are you listening 2 now?

[Karl Henning]

This disc was among the many Dan left for my consideration. On one hand (and it qualifies for Maiden-Listen Monday!) Common Tones in Simple Time struck me as easily the best piece on the disc. On t'other, there's nothing to it that IMO he didn't do as well or better in Shaker Loops. I found Christian Zeal and Activity the most disposable item on the disc.

[JBS]

[brewski]

Round 2 of the Banff competition, which can be seen here.

Nerida Quartet
Haydn: String Quartet Op. 54, No. 2 in C Major
Caroline Shaw: Entr'acte (2011)

Intermission

Viatores Quartet
Haydn: String Quartet Op. 33, No. 1 in B minor
Jörg Widmann: Jagdquartett, 3rd String Quartet (2003)

[Karl Henning]

Round 2 of the Banff competition, which can be seen here.

Nerida Quartet
Haydn: String Quartet Op. 54, No. 2 in C Major
Caroline Shaw: Entr'acte (2011)

Intermission

Viatores Quartet
Haydn: String Quartet Op. 33, No. 1 in B minor
Jörg Widmann: Jagdquartett, 3rd String Quartet (2003)

Caroline Shaw is going from triumph to triumph. 

[brewski]

Caroline Shaw is going from triumph to triumph.

She does write beautifully for string quartet. (Thinking of the Attacca Quartet's Orange.)

[hopefullytrusting]

I am very excited for tomorrow, thanks to copilot, again:

Cardew's The Great Learning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om1YtWCoF_g

4 hours 32 minutes 4 seconds

[AnotherSpin]

My reaction to the annihilation of the self is not fear but grief. In principle, the same as when a loved one passes away.

The molecules we are made of are unlikely to ever be destroyed - depending on whether you believe that the universe will expand forever or contract again.
But the state you are in when you are dead - if you can speak of a state - is hardly different from before you were born, and we endured that for billions of years.

Sorry - out of topic again.

Death exists only within the confines of the mind; beyond it, there is none.

[Symphonic Addict]

de Frumerie: Horn Concerto and Trombone Concerto

One of the most arresting concertos for horn and orchestra I've stumbled upon in recent years. It manages to convey a serious mood, but at the same time it shows some quirky gestures and a haunting Nordic atmosphere. It's that good. The other concerto is the alternative trombone version of the Cello Concerto. Fine too, but not at the same degree as the Horn Concerto.




Gubaidulina: Johannes-Passion

Yet another towering masterpiece by Gubaidulina. A large-scale oratorio that didn't feel too long. If anything, I was gripped all the way through.

[AnotherSpin]

From this morning's Osho reading: "To be spontaneously loving, naturally loving, is to be religious. Religion has nothing to do with worshipping Jesus or Buddha or Krishna. It has nothing to do with chanting mantras, it has nothing to do with all kinds of rituals being done in the churches and the temples. It has nothing to do with all this nonsense. True religion is simply spontaneous love – and the whole society has been against it."

[hopefullytrusting]

Such an odd feeling, like I feel like I shouldn't like it, but I am drawn to it (sort of like the end of Hereditary or Midsommar):



Makes his Threnody sound like a cakewalk.

It is a very uneasy feeling - I feel it in the pits of my belly; it is visceral.

[Mandryka]

I am very excited for tomorrow, thanks to copilot, again:

Cardew's The Great Learning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Om1YtWCoF_g

4 hours 32 minutes 4 seconds

I've been to performances of it.

[Mandryka]

Such an odd feeling, like I feel like I shouldn't like it, but I am drawn to it (sort of like the end of Hereditary or Midsommar):



Makes his Threnody sound like a cakewalk.

It is a very uneasy feeling - I feel it in the pits of my belly; it is visceral.

It's his best music.

https://www.talkclassical.com/threads/musical-dark-nights-of-the-soul-1-pendereckis-utrenja.91387/?post_id=2726270#post-2726270

[foxandpeng]

Bax: Symphony No.2

Lloyd-Jones is my 'home' for the set of Bax symphonies. More structure and less Celtic twilight, although to be fair the more I listen to the symphonies I am coming to the realisation there is less Bax of the tone poems then I thought - his chamber music is different again. Anyway, DLJ plays with a straight bat and I like that.
This release was recorded 30 years ago this month (August). How time flies!

Equally here. Lloyd-Jones is my plumbline.

[Florestan]

If it were just a matter of salvation, you could perform the mass in the cold with just a priest,

That's exactly how it is usually done in the Orthodox Church: a priest and a choir of three at most, not infrequently just one voice. Not to mention that the whole thing is actually very different from the Catholic Mass, both pre- and post-Vatican II. 

[Elgarian Redux]

It is pretty well established that consciousness ends when the metabolism of the brain stops, that damaging certain structures of the brain impairs consciousness in predictable ways, that the process of the brain, unfathomably complicated as they are, follow the laws of physics and chemistry in detail. You can argue that the independence of consciousness from the physical system can't be disproven, but there is nothing to argue for it except the wish that it is true . . .

- ... together with personal insight, and the reported experiences of mystics (for example) as far back as records go. These don't qualify as evidence in the scientific sense, so the scientific conclusion is clear and inevitable, and as you state it, Scarps. But even from the scientific point of view, can we ever be sure that we have all the variables recognised and controlled?

I'm not making an argument either way: just making sure that the provisionality of the scientific conclusion is recognised. I don't want to derail the thread.

[Florestan]

people gave money to the church in the form of bequests and subscriptions because they enjoyed the polyphonic masses.

Not quite. They gave money to the Church for Masses to be celebrated in their name for the salvation of their soul, regardless of the nature of the Mass. Or do you imply that Gregorian chant was only tolerated, while polyphony was enjoyed? Then how about the time when only Gregorian chant was available? Churches were not concert halls, not during Mass anyway.

[prémont]

Death exists only within the confines of the mind;

Yes, and it's precisely this which is difficult to accept.

[Que]

A Lassus/Di Lasso recording I wasn't familiar with:



OK... so, this is excellent. Totally flew under my radar, and it hasn't got much exposure online since either was issued in 2021.


https://www.resonando.de/en/products/rn-10013-orlando-di-lasso

[hopefullytrusting]

I've been to performances of it.

I am envious of that, at least the idea of it. I might hate it in actuality, lol.

It's his best music.

https://www.talkclassical.com/threads/musical-dark-nights-of-the-soul-1-pendereckis-utrenja.91387/?post_id=2726270#post-2726270

That wouldn't surprise me, but I'm going to hold off until I at least hear his St. Luke Passion.

[Madiel]

Many people are terrified by the prospect of eternal nihilation, but the opposite - eternal life - seems to me equally frightening

Only if it involves record companies continuing to reissue the same stuff over and over.