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Started by dissily Mordentroge, November 13, 2019, 12:50:56 AM

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dissily Mordentroge

Raised in a home where only classical music was played.Studied the pipe organ from an early age until the goings on behind the scenes in the cathedral had me drop my studies and never return . Soon after a school friend exposed me without warning to 1950's rock and roll. I thought the human race had gone insane. Now in my dotage I enjoy a wide range of music outside of classical but my main love has remained the pipe organ and the endless strugle to reproduce the monters in my domestic environment.
Needless to say that makes my main love J S Bach. I spend some time exploring new recordings on line but find the often amateurish sonics and the nasty digital compression used on places such as Youtube can lead you astray when deciding what to purchase in high resolution format.
I'm a particular fan of Lieder but haven't found any examples of this quaint little art form on this forum. If there's a dedicated section could somebody point me in the right direction?


pjme

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Erm... Check out the" Opera and vocal"  section. And, of course, feel free to start a new topic.

You can also use the "search" button and look for "Lieder". You'll see that Lieder have been talked about quite often. Just pick up a theme/name/composer/singer....and restart the section.

Good luck!

BTW, I do like German lieder, but have a soft spot for French (orchestral) chansons & mélodies, airs de cour, mediaeval, renaissance & baroque songs.
Folkmusic (from Norway to Spain , Brazil, Africa & Afghanistan....) can be utterly lovely, inspiring, moving and fun.



André


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dissily Mordentroge

Quote from: pjme on November 14, 2019, 04:07:57 AM
Erm... Check out the" Opera and vocal"  section. And, of course, feel free to start a new topic.

You can also use the "search" button and look for "Lieder". You'll see that Lieder have been talked about quite often. Just pick up a theme/name/composer/singer....and restart the section.

Good luck!

BTW, I do like German lieder, but have a soft spot for French (orchestral) chansons & mélodies, airs de cour, mediaeval, renaissance & baroque songs.
Folkmusic (from Norway to Spain , Brazil, Africa & Afghanistan....) can be utterly lovely, inspiring, moving and fun.
We have very similar tastes in song but I've no idea what 'airs de cour' are.
Thus far I'm intimidated by the very learned posts appearing here. I have the feeling at times of having stumbled into a room full of post graduate musicologists. Intimidating indeed.
A puzzlement for me is why it's invariably the case when a recording is referred to here it's never given as a link to a site where one can listen to it(even in compressed Youtube format or whatever) . Is this a forum rule to only post the graphics of a recording? My main reason for joining music forums has always been to sample music for later purchase although I confess the often mangled 'on line'' sonics can make this a fraught proposition.

Que

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Quote from: dissily Mordentroge on November 15, 2019, 09:59:59 PM
We have very similar tastes in song but I've no idea what 'airs de cour' are.
Thus far I'm intimidated by the very learned posts appearing here. I have the feeling at times of having stumbled into a room full of post graduate musicologists. Intimidating indeed.

An air de cour ("courtly song") is an early French song from the Renaissance and Early Baroque, usually with lute accompaniment.
Fortunately you don't have to be a musician or musicologist to enjoy music, I'm certainly not one.... :D
You can ask any question here, really. You'll find our members very helpful.

QuoteA puzzlement for me is why it's invariably the case when a recording is referred to here it's never given as a link to a site where one can listen to it(even in compressed Youtube format or whatever) . Is this a forum rule to only post the graphics of a recording? My main reason for joining music forums has always been to sample music for later purchase although I confess the often mangled 'on line'' sonics can make this a fraught proposition.

No such rule!  If possible, I use the Amazon link feature but a lot of us can't be bothered... There is also a feature in the message menu to deeplink a YouTube video. But you have to tweak the url, and I always seem to get it wrong...
Tip: click "quote" to a message with a link and see how it is done.
Or check here: http://www.good-music-guide.com/community/index.php/topic,2694.0.html

Q

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Quote from: dissily Mordentroge on November 15, 2019, 09:59:59 PM

Thus far I'm intimidated by the very learned posts appearing here. I have the feeling at times of having stumbled into a room full of post graduate musicologists. Intimidating indeed.


You are very welcome aboard  :)

The initial reaction may be one of intimation but once you engage with the people here you will find them not only erudite [discounting myself, of course  ;D] but quite willing to share any information that you may require. They are a friendly bunch who are always willing to come to one's aid. So, participate, post often and most importantly enjoy your time here.

vandermolen

Quote from: dissily Mordentroge on November 15, 2019, 09:59:59 PM
We have very similar tastes in song but I've no idea what 'airs de cour' are.
Thus far I'm intimidated by the very learned posts appearing here. I have the feeling at times of having stumbled into a room full of post graduate musicologists. Intimidating indeed.
A puzzlement for me is why it's invariably the case when a recording is referred to here it's never given as a link to a site where one can listen to it(even in compressed Youtube format or whatever) . Is this a forum rule to only post the graphics of a recording? My main reason for joining music forums has always been to sample music for later purchase although I confess the often mangled 'on line'' sonics can make this a fraught proposition.
There are some genuine musicians here of which I am definitely not one! But we all do share a love of classical music and that is the main thing - so I hope that you will feel encouraged to contribute as much as you like.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

André

Good point about musical links. We listen and discuss stuff we have, often assuming other participants already know the work/interpretation. When that's not the case, I go to either of these two web sites:  Prestoclassical or JPC, as they offer plenty of sample clips. I'm sure there are others, including youtube of course.

There are plenty of members here who love but do not read music (like me  :-\). We make up for that lacuna with experience and enthusiasm  ;D.

steve ridgway

I know next to nothing having come to 20th century classical via musique concrete and electronic works but the people here are very friendly and have introduced me to some fantastic works I would never otherwise have discovered. The learned talk does give me a warm and fuzzy feeling that this music is the product of professionals that really know what they're doing and put a lot of work into it, and that there is much depth to be explored :).

pjme

Quote from: André on November 16, 2019, 11:49:20 AM
There are plenty of members here who love but do not read music (like me  :-\). We make up for that lacuna with experience and enthusiasm  ;D.

Exactly. And " you don't have to be a musician or musicologist to enjoy music".
I learned a lot about history, literature, architecture, weird and unusual instruments, the (crazy) behaviour of composers, conductors, sopranos and basses....
Feel free to ask questions!
P.

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Quote from: 2dogs on November 16, 2019, 08:43:58 PM
I know next to nothing having come to 20th century classical via musique concrete and electronic works but the people here are very friendly and have introduced me to some fantastic works I would never otherwise have discovered. The learned talk does give me a warm and fuzzy feeling that this music is the product of professionals that really know what they're doing and put a lot of work into it, and that there is much depth to be explored :).

I think the important thing is you did find a way into classical music. The entry point isn't as important as the journey you've now been on since your discovery of this music.