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Karl Henning

"Even after accepting disinformation from Russian agents, Johnson and Grassley couldn't come up with anything new or interesting on Hunter Biden."
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

drogulus

     
Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 23, 2020, 05:07:54 AM
"Even after accepting disinformation from Russian agents, Johnson and Grassley couldn't come up with anything new or interesting on Hunter Biden."

     The point of the investigation was the investigation, not anything it might "discover".

     The US, EU and IMF wanted a Ukrainian prosecutor fired because he wasn't investigating corruption. If they all got roped into a scheme to protect Hunter Biden, I would like to know how the scheme was explained, in particular why it wouldn't be preferable to leave the guy in place.

     Some time ago Sen. Johnson was awarded the Inhofe Prize for Outstanding Senatorial Intellect by a committee consisting of me.
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Quote from: Todd on September 23, 2020, 04:44:56 AM

You said free college, not tuition.  There's a difference.  You obviously did not look at the NCES site.

Yes I did.

No tuition = free.

You try to muddy the waters.
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Florestan

Quote from: 71 dB on September 23, 2020, 09:04:36 AM
Yes I did. No tuition = free

You keep harping on free education and free healthcare... 

I am not opposed to single-payer, universal healthcare. I am not opposed to publicly financed education. I have them both in my own country What I am strongly oppoosed to is calling them free. They are not free at all but financed by taxes, ie everybody pays for them, to a greater or lesser extent.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

Quote from: Florestan on September 23, 2020, 09:23:12 AM
You keep harping on free education and free healthcare... 

I am not opposed to single-payer, universal healthcare. I am not opposed to publicly financed education. I have them both in my own country What I am strongly oppoosed to is calling them free. They are not free at all but financed by taxes, ie everybody pays for them, to a greater or lesser extent.

TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Florestan

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 23, 2020, 09:45:16 AM
TANSTAAFL = There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch

ees = ei edes suomessa

(assuming Google Translate is correct).
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

MN Dave

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71 dB

Quote from: Florestan on September 23, 2020, 09:23:12 AM
You keep harping on free education and free healthcare... 

I am not opposed to single-payer, universal healthcare. I am not opposed to publicly financed education. I have them both in my own country What I am strongly oppoosed to is calling them free. They are not free at all but financed by taxes, ie everybody pays for them, to a greater or lesser extent.

The correct term is "free at the point of use". You don't pay the doctor when you see him/her. You just keep paying taxes.

Free at the point of use healthcare.
Free at the point of use education.
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Karl Henning

Quote from: MN Dave on September 23, 2020, 09:59:37 AM
IDMATIIAGTS  8)


It doesn't matter a thing if I ain't got tight shoes?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

71 dB

Quote from: Florestan on September 23, 2020, 09:48:53 AM
ees = ei edes suomessa

(assuming Google Translate is correct).

It is, althou using capital letters it's Ei edes Suomessa.

Ei = not
edes = even
Suomi = Finland
-ssa = in
i => e = "Complexity of Finnish grammar."  >:D
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Florestan

Quote from: MN Dave on September 23, 2020, 09:59:37 AM
IDMATIIAGTS  8)

I Did the Math! Actually 'Tis Insanely Incredible! Anything Goes! This Sucks!
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Florestan

Quote from: 71 dB on September 23, 2020, 10:27:54 AM
Suomi = Finland
-ssa = in
i => e =

Ah, yes, the joy of the agglutinative languages.  :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Todd

Quote from: 71 dB on September 23, 2020, 09:04:36 AM
Yes I did.

No tuition = free.

You try to muddy the waters.


No, I am pointing out that you do not know the subject you are writing about.  I suggest you look at the NCES site and see some of the other costs associated with college, some of them rather substantial, that directly impact students.  "Free" tuition - ie, fully taxpayer subsidized tuition - is not even close to the same thing as free college. 

It also doesn't matter; fully taxpayer subsidized tuition isn't going to happen.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

71 dB

Quote from: Florestan on September 23, 2020, 10:36:01 AM
Ah, yes, the joy of the agglutinative languages.  :D

"Lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas" is said to be the longest Finnish word at 61 letters, however that is arguable because you could make up any word you wanted in Finnish really.
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Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW July 2025 "Liminal Feelings"

Florestan

Quote from: 71 dB on September 23, 2020, 11:03:44 AM
"Lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas" is said to be the longest Finnish word at 61 letters, however that is arguable because you could make up any word you wanted in Finnish really.

What does it mean?
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part." - Claude Debussy

Karl Henning

Quote from: 71 dB on September 23, 2020, 11:03:44 AM
"Lentokonesuihkuturbiinimoottoriapumekaanikkoaliupseerioppilas" is said to be the longest Finnish word at 61 letters, however that is arguable because you could make up any word you wanted in Finnish really.

What would you say is the longest word in frequent use? (I've never heard "antidisestablishmentarianism" used in actual discourse....
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

71 dB

Quote from: Todd on September 23, 2020, 11:01:32 AM

No, I am pointing out that you do not know the subject you are writing about.  I suggest you look at the NCES site and see some of the other costs associated with college, some of them rather substantial, that directly impact students.  "Free" tuition - ie, fully taxpayer subsidized tuition - is not even close to the same thing as free college. 

It also doesn't matter; fully taxpayer subsidized tuition isn't going to happen.

You mean the students need to pay for food and accommodation? Yes, that happens even in Finland, but then again you need to pay for those whether you study or not. Anyway, it's clear if the 80 billion increase to military budget was instead "dumped" to public higher education the tuition frees would be zero or much lower they are now.
Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW July 2025 "Liminal Feelings"

Todd

Quote from: 71 dB on September 23, 2020, 11:09:13 AM
You mean the students need to pay for food and accommodation? Yes, that happens even in Finland, but then again you need to pay for those whether you study or not.

Then your confusion is odd.


Quote from: 71 dB on September 23, 2020, 11:09:13 AMAnyway, it's clear if the 80 billion increase to military budget was instead "dumped" to public higher education the tuition frees would be zero or much lower they are now.


It would not be free, and national security and college tuition are not interchangeable.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

71 dB

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on September 23, 2020, 11:08:20 AM
What would you say is the longest word in frequent use? (I've never heard "antidisestablishmentarianism" used in actual discourse....

Words such as Peruspalveluliikelaitoskuntayhtymä =  "a public utility of a municipal federation for provision of basic services" are used in politics. In engineering field you can see words such as Kolmivaihekilowattituntimittari = "three-phase electricity meter", but in casual language words rarely get much longer than Jauhelihakeitto = "minced meat soup".

Quote from: Florestan on September 23, 2020, 11:07:58 AM
What does it mean?

Airplane jet turbine engine auxiliary mechanic non-commissioned officer student.  ;D
Spatial distortion is a serious problem deteriorating headphone listening.
Crossfeeders reduce spatial distortion and make the sound more natural
and less tiresome in headphone listening.

My Sound Cloud page <-- NEW July 2025 "Liminal Feelings"

Karl Henning

Quote from: drogulus on September 23, 2020, 06:50:46 AM
     
     The point of the investigation was the investigation, not anything it might "discover".

     The US, EU and IMF wanted a Ukrainian prosecutor fired because he wasn't investigating corruption. If they all got roped into a scheme to protect Hunter Biden, I would like to know how the scheme was explained, in particular why it wouldn't be preferable to leave the guy in place.

     Some time ago Sen. Johnson was awarded the Inhofe Prize for Outstanding Senatorial Intellect by a committee consisting of me.

GOP's Hunter Biden probe digs up dirt on... Rick Perry's ties to Ukrainian gas deals .. whoops!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot