USA Politics

[Karl Henning]

Anyone who showed up could have gotten in. Meaning there were not quite 13,000 people who could have gotten in despite the trolling...but didn't.
If they stayed away because of Covid19, that just shows some Trump supporters are not dumb.

One can but hope.

[Karl Henning]

The subheader says "The equestrian memorial to Theodore Roosevelt has long prompted objections as a symbol of colonialism and racism." just in case there's a knee-jerk reaction to the headline as this  merely being part of some irrational craze of the current moment.

Some seem not to be much of a reader.

[Todd]

Seattle Chaz shooting: police say violent crowd prevented access to victims

Video footage backs up the police account.  Only one thug died.  Not a loss.


60 Shot, 9 Fatally, So Far This Weekend in Chicago

Protesters and their enablers online are right: Defund the police!

Between 5-6 million viewed it online.

Irrelevant.

[milk]

Prior to COVID the American economy was pumping and black Americans had the lowest unemployment in history. By stopping the flow of illegal, undocumented workers, wages were naturally rising.

This is how to deal with inequality alongside an attitude of aspiration rather than disempowerment. I don't see a black victim when I listen to Candace Owens or Dr Ben Carson, or many other black people who reject the narrative of oppression, itself a form of oppression.

The left like to talk about 'systemic racism' but as Dave Rubin noted in a recent interview, the left own the institutions in America from academe to the judiciary. The left don't support school choice for example, which would give black people who want a good education the option of good schools. It's Trump's policy and the Dems are beholden to unions so naturally the Left are against it. So who does systemic racism of low expectations? Who needs an angry victim class for relevancy?

Notice the calls to defund the police are backed by those people who can afford the luxury of private security. Cities like NY are seeing an explosion in violent crime.

It's poor black and white communities who bear the brunt of stupid policy pushed by the far left with endorsement of wealthy narcissistic celebrities who do little of practical value but like to virtue signal in cringeworthy videos. How about they do something useful like set up scholarships for bright black kids?

As a side note, it's interesting that Rubin now gets labelled as "alt right". He's your classical liberal (openly gay man living in California) who woke up to the toxicity of far leftist ideology and left the Left - hence the hate. He calls it 'red pilling' and believes more thinking people who once identified as Democrat are fleeing the party.

Dave Rubin is the dummest guy the right has to offer. Did you see his new book? Even conservatives can't own that. How long is he going to milk the mantra of, "I am a liberal"? I guess as long as he gets paid to. I mean, how dishonest can you get calling yourself a liberal when talking with Stefan Molyneux about brain sizes and IQ? What disgusting people he promotes. There's a truly ugly person. Or, it is possible that he doesn't understand what anybody is talking about in any given moment. Maybe that's his excuse (and the reason he deleted said clip). So, how much do you think the trend we had is due to the Obama economy? I guess 0%. I think conservatives can do better than this fatuous talking point (that you make in an honest well-meaning spirit). If you gave Obama half the credit, I'd at least think, "OK, there's a discussion to be had here."

[Daverz]

Dave Rubin is the dummest guy the right has to offer. Did you see his new book? Even conservatives can't own that. How long is he going to milk the mantra of, "I am a liberal"? I guess as long as he gets paid too. I mean, how dishonest can you get calling yourself a liberal when talking with Stefan Molyneux about brain sizes and IQ? What disgusting people he promotes. There's a truly ugly person. Or, it is possible that he doesn't understand what anybody is talking about in any given moment. Maybe that's his excuse (and the reason he deleted said clip). So, how much do you think the trend we had is due to the Obama economy? I guess 0%. I think conservatives can do better than this fatuous talking point (that you make in an honest well-meaning spirit). If you gave Obama half the credit, I'd at least think, "OK, there's a discussion to be had here."

Rubin promotes whatever and whomever the people who pay him want him to.  He's a completely empty shell of a human being.  I only pay attention to him because he's fun to dunk on.  Simple pleasures.

[milk]

Here I was told the liberals and Dems were the party of science. As Molyneux likes to point out, national IQ in Asian countries is higher than most western ones. I don't find that racist or offensive.

I'm sure you probably find Charles Murray offensive, too.

This topic is best avoided. I'm sorry I brought it up. It's not going to do you any good either. I wouldn't go spouting off about race and brain sizes if I were Rubin since neither of them seem nuanced or acting in good-faith. I don't know what accounts for Rubin's stupidity but I'm not postulating anything genetic. Maybe too many high-level ideas have left him catatonic.

[Daverz]

This topic is best avoided. I'm sorry I brought it up. It's not going to do you any good either. I wouldn't go spouting off about race and brain sizes if I were Rubin since neither of them seem nuanced or acting in good-faith. I don't know what accounts for Rubin's stupidity but I'm not postulating anything genetic. Maybe too many high-level ideas have left him catatonic.

For anyone curious, here's a good video on The Bell Curve, the usual source of "race science" these days.  I hope a link is allowed in the interest of education:

https://www.youtube.com/v/UBc7qBS1Ujo

[Christabel]

This topic is best avoided. I'm sorry I brought it up. It's not going to do you any good either. I wouldn't go spouting off about race and brain sizes if I were Rubin since neither of them seem nuanced or acting in good-faith. I don't know what accounts for Rubin's stupidity but I'm not postulating anything genetic. Maybe too many high-level ideas have left him catatonic.

Dave has heard all these accusations since he abandoned the Left;  bitterness is their stock in trade.  Insults are NEVER arguments.  Thomas Sowell (black Economist and PhD) has written:

"Have we reached the ultimate stage of absurdity where some people are held responsible for things that happened before they were born, while other people are not held responsible for what they are doing today?"

And he talks about how the Left rejects facts because these are not "emotionally satisfying".  We're talking about a cohort which just isn't terribly bright here.

[Christabel]

Dave Rubin is the dummest guy the right has to offer. Did you see his new book? Even conservatives can't own that. How long is he going to milk the mantra of, "I am a liberal"? I guess as long as he gets paid to. I mean, how dishonest can you get calling yourself a liberal when talking with Stefan Molyneux about brain sizes and IQ? What disgusting people he promotes. There's a truly ugly person. Or, it is possible that he doesn't understand what anybody is talking about in any given moment. Maybe that's his excuse (and the reason he deleted said clip). So, how much do you think the trend we had is due to the Obama economy? I guess 0%. I think conservatives can do better than this fatuous talking point (that you make in an honest well-meaning spirit). If you gave Obama half the credit, I'd at least think, "OK, there's a discussion to be had here."

Emotion-laden garbage;  stock in trade of the modern Left, which has abandoned reason in favour of hysteria and emotion.  That is why politically they are on the run the democratic world over.  Dr. Thomas Sowell nails it. Spoiler alert;  he's African American!!

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/thomas-sowell-quotations-on-the-political-left/

"Intellectual bankruptcy"  - yeah, that works.  Also, another way I've heard it put is by Eric Weinstein:  Modern universities are in "intellectual receivership".  They turn out unthinking robots in Humanities degrees who learn little but how to spout nostrums and bromides of the Left - which are largely meaningless.

Bottom line;  the Left has less money than the Right.  I'm happy with THAT, since I cannot alter the other paradigms.

[milk]

Emotion-laden garbage;  stock in trade of the modern Left, which has abandoned reason in favour of hysteria and emotion.  That is why politically they are on the run the democratic world over.  Dr. Thomas Sowell nails it. Spoiler alert;  he's African American!!

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/thomas-sowell-quotations-on-the-political-left/

"Intellectual bankruptcy"  - yeah, that works.  Also, another way I've heard it put is by Eric Weinstein:  Modern universities are in "intellectual receivership".  They turn out unthinking robots in Humanities degrees who learn little but how to spout nostrums and bromides of the Left - which are largely meaningless.

Bottom line;  the Left has less money than the Right.  I'm happy with THAT, since I cannot alter the other paradigms.

Intellectual Dark Web madlib? To me, a lot of these guys just milk the same thing for far too long. I get it, Rubin was a "liberal." I'd say "move on," but he's got nothing to move on to (ever see his comedy? It's awful!). Can I gently recommend to you that Glenn Loury and John McWhorter are much more respected and accomplished than the nuts Rubin usually parades through his chambers? Even Sam Harris, who has sat with Rubin, is better but you don't bring him up because he's a never tumper.

[milk]

For anyone curious, here's a good video on The Bell Curve, the usual source of "race science" these days.  I hope a link is allowed in the interest of education:

https://www.youtube.com/v/UBc7qBS1Ujo

Gosh I think I've subscribed to that guy. Is he a libertarian type? Not that I am but I seem to recall liking his videos. But this is 2+ hours. Is it worth the dive?
ETA yeah, worth it. 

[milk]

Here I was told the liberals and Dems were the party of science. As Molyneux likes to point out, national IQ in Asian countries is higher than most western ones. I don't find that racist or offensive.

I'm sure you probably find Charles Murray offensive, too.

See Daverz link above: it's worth a watch. Might change your mind.

[BasilValentine]

Seattle Chaz shooting: police say violent crowd prevented access to victims

Video footage backs up the police account.  Only one thug died.  Not a loss.

According to he article, what the footage shows is that police were told by members of the crowd that the victim had already been taken to the hospital, which, it seems, he had. Why do you call the victim a thug? 

[Todd]

According to he article, what the footage shows is that police were told by members of the crowd that the victim had already been taken to the hospital, which, it seems, he had. Why do you call the victim a thug?

Because everyone involved with Chaz is a thug.

And there's been another shooting in Chaz: One person wounded in second shooting in Seattle's 'Chaz' protest zone

The left's dreams are coming true.

[Todd]

From the Graun: Republican dark money groups set sights on taking control of 2020 district maps

A couple enjoyable lines from rightlines.gop

Socialism starts in the states.  Let's stop it there, too.

Join our fight to keep socialists from drawing Congressional maps

While the cause is obviously just, were I to give money to anyone, it would be Cocaine Mitch. 

[Karl Henning]

Trump returning to White House Saturday night after disastrous Tulsa, Oklahoma rally.



No; I'm not gloating.

The Please Tell Me You Love Me Tour

[BasilValentine]

Because everyone involved with Chaz is a thug.

This is Seattle. I think the expression you're looking for (quoting Jeffrey Goines of Twelve Monkeys fame) is "ineffectual liberal jerk-off."

[Todd]

This is Seattle. I think the expression you're looking for (quoting Jeffrey Goines of Twelve Monkeys fame) is "ineffectual liberal jerk-off."

No, thug is the word.  The shootings prove it.  Chaz certainly needs trigger warnings posted, that much is certain. 

[Karl Henning]

Some love and do swallow the President's shabby disinformation:

"A Twitter account that claimed to be run by antifa activists and called for violence at the protests was later linked to the white nationalist group Identity Evropa. A viral May 27 tweet, from a popular QAnon account, alleged that the protests were an effort by the "deep state" to "start a race war before the election," arguing "antifa & BLM are domestic terrorist organizations that need to be STOPPED." Conservative media outlets and prominent Twitter influencers, including Donald Trump Jr., amplified the theory that antifa was connected to the violence."

[Karl Henning]

'The Biden campaign put out a statement bashing Trump's remark. In a written statement, the campaign argued that "as the American people suffer through rising coronavirus cases and fight to get back to work and get our economy back on track, Donald Trump made one of the most damning admissions in presidential history: that he ordered federal officials to slow down testing just to artificially suppress numbers and conceal his atrocious mismanagement of the worst public health crisis in generations." Biden's team declared that "it wasn't a joke: it was a confession. Look no further than Trump's own past statements." The statement concluded, "Donald Trump just announced to the entire country that he cares more about saving his job than he does about saving lives or building our economy back. And that is unforgettable."'