Your 10 favorite American symphony composers

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Symphonic Addict

What of these composers represent your  musical lendings, what you consider worth mentioning on this thread according to your tastes?

I'd say these:

George Antheil
Samuel Barber
Aaron Copland
Paul Creston
David Diamond
Howard Hanson
Alan Hovhaness
Peter Mennin
Christopher Rouse
William Schumann

Richard Danielpour, Jack Gallagher, Aaron Jay Kernis and Kevin Puts are other quite promising who are ascending in popularity. Stephen Albert died too young. A pity.
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Daverz

Sessions
Diamond
Piston
Randall Thompson
William Schuman
Irving Fine
Harold Shapero
Persichetti
Lees
Mennin
Flagello
Helps
Rosner

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: Daverz on June 12, 2020, 04:36:26 PM
Sessions
Diamond
Piston
Randall Thompson
William Schuman
Irving Fine
Harold Shapero
Persichetti
Lees
Mennin
Flagello
Helps
Rosner

Good choices! Shapero's Symphony for Classical Orchestra is a quite characteristic work. Diamond and Thompson are worth mentioning and I could include them as well. His quasi last-namesake Thomson was much less succesful in my humble opinion. Persichetti is totally unknown to me, so are Lees and Helps.
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Mirror Image

What a difficult question! I'm not sure I can give 10 but here's a few of my favorite American symphonists:

Copland
Barber
Ives
Schuman
Diamond
Hanson
Bernstein
Harrison

And that's really it. There's many of them that wrote a few good ones, but these listed are the ones I keep coming back to.


Daverz

#4
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on June 12, 2020, 05:23:16 PM
Good choices! Shapero's Symphony for Classical Orchestra is a quite characteristic work. Diamond and Thompson are worth mentioning and I could include them as well. His quasi last-namesake Thomson was much less succesful in my humble opinion. Persichetti is totally unknown to me, so are Lees and Helps.

I'm not sure the Youtube sound is doing it any favors, but here is the first movement of Helps Symphony No. 1:

https://www.youtube.com/v/VhI_98Zfrn0

First movement of Rochberg's Symphony No. 2:

https://www.youtube.com/v/aUyTghXo-Ts

Brian

#5
Piston 2
Thompson 2
Albert 2
Still 1 "Afro-American"
Barber 1
Rouse 2-5
Jones 3 "Palo Duro Canyon"
Ives 2

kyjo

#6
If you don't mind, Cesar, I think I'll follow Brian's lead and name my top 10 American symphonies rather than symphonists since that's easier for me (although there is probably already a thread for the former :D). I'm also gonna leave out the two rather "obvious" ones, Barber 1 and Copland 3:

Creston 2
Dawson Negro Folk Symphony
Diamond 3
Hanson 3
Jones 3 Palo Duro Canyon
Piston 2
Powell Virginia Symphony
Schuman 3
Shapero Symphony for Classical Orchestra
Thompson 2

Runner-ups: Antheil 4, Beach Gaelic, Bernstein 1 Jeremiah, Gallagher 2 Ascendant, Harris 3, Hovhaness 50 Mount St. Helens, Ives 1, Mennin 5, Puts 2, Still 2 Song of a New Race

I need to investigate the symphonies of Albert, Flagello, Kernis, Lees, Persichetti, Rochberg, Rosner, and Rouse more thoroughly!
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vandermolen

Hanson
Harris
Diamond
Bernstein
Copland
Kurka
Barber
Antheil
Creston
Schuman
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Symphonic Addict

Quote from: Daverz on June 12, 2020, 06:02:12 PM
I'm not sure the Youtube sound is doing it any favors, but here is the first movement of Helps Symphony No. 1:

https://www.youtube.com/v/VhI_98Zfrn0

First movement of Rochberg's Symphony No. 2:

https://www.youtube.com/v/aUyTghXo-Ts

Thanks, Daverz. I'll be checking these.
Part of the tragedy of the Palestinians is that they have essentially no international support for a good reason: they've no wealth, they've no power, so they've no rights.

Noam Chomsky

Symphonic Addict

Quote from: kyjo on June 12, 2020, 07:49:48 PM
If you don't mind, Cesar, I think I'll follow Brian's lead and name my top 10 American symphonies rather than symphonists since that's easier for me (although there is probably already a thread for the former :D). I'm also gonna leave out the two rather "obvious" ones, Barber 1 and Copland 3:

Creston 2
Dawson Negro Folk Symphony
Diamond 3
Hanson 3
Jones 3 Palo Duro Canyon
Piston 2
Powell Virginia Symphony
Schuman 3
Shapero Symphony for Classical Orchestra
Thompson 2

Runner-ups: Antheil 4, Beach Gaelic, Bernstein 1 Jeremiah, Gallagher 2 Ascendant, Harris 3, Hovhaness 50 Mount St. Helens, Ives 1, Mennin 5, Puts 2, Still 2 Song of a New Race

I need to investigate the symphonies of Albert, Flagello, Kernis, Lees, Persichetti, Rochberg, Rosner, and Rouse more thoroughly!

It doesn't matter, Kyle. It works so good that way too.  8)
Part of the tragedy of the Palestinians is that they have essentially no international support for a good reason: they've no wealth, they've no power, so they've no rights.

Noam Chomsky

MusicTurner

#10
-Hovhaness (also based on some of the lesser known ones, such as Majnun)
-Rochberg
-Schuman
-Ives

- the rest

I'm not familiar enough with those of Diamond, Sessions and Piston though, three other good candidates, and some of those by Gloria Coates tend to have too many glissandi, but she might be there as well ...

Sergeant Rock

Ives
Bernstein
Diamond
Harris
Antheil
Mennin
Hanson
Schuman
Barber
Lowell Liebermann
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

Karl Henning

Bernstein
Copland
Flagello
Gallagher (disclosure: I was a student of Jack's)
Hanson
Hovhaness
Mennin
Persichetti (though I really only know his Symphony for Band, which IMO wins his place here)
Rosner
Schuman
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

springrite

Mennin
Harris
Piston
Ives
Barber
Copland
Persichetti
Rochberg
Schuman
Hanson
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Daverz

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on June 15, 2020, 01:19:29 PM
Gallagher (disclosure: I was a student of Jack's)

I should have included Gallagher for the Symphony No. 2 alone.

springrite

Quote from: springrite on June 15, 2020, 04:34:01 PMMennin
Harris
Piston
Ives
Barber
Copland
Persichetti
Rochberg
Schuman
Hanson

I forgot David Diamond, which is unforgivable. Diamind replaces Rochberg.
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

foxandpeng

Hm.

Antheil
Hanson
Hovhaness
Rouse
Piston
Diamond
Barber
Mennin
Maslanka
Glass

The obvious missing contenders could easily make an appearance on another day.
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Tolstoy

Karl Henning

Quote from: foxandpeng on February 03, 2024, 11:56:52 AMHm.

Antheil
Hanson
Hovhaness
Rouse
Piston
Diamond
Barber
Mennin
Maslanka
Glass

The obvious missing contenders could easily make an appearance on another day.
Which of Rouse's symphonies would you say us his best, Dannie?
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

foxandpeng

Quote from: Karl Henning on February 03, 2024, 12:14:28 PMWhich of Rouse's symphonies would you say us his best, Dannie?

I particularly like 2... or 5...

As for 'best'... well, I am a bit thick to make such an assessment 😁
"A quiet secluded life in the country, with the possibility of being useful to people ... then work which one hopes may be of some use; then rest, nature, books, music, love for one's neighbour — such is my idea of happiness"

Tolstoy

Karl Henning

Quote from: foxandpeng on February 03, 2024, 01:24:00 PMI particularly like 2... or 5...

As for 'best'... well, I am a bit thick to make such an assessment 😁
I could not, in fairness, stipulate any such thing, and I consider you to have answered the query satisfactorily.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot