USA Politics (redux)

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drogulus

   
     I can't say I'm scared about what's happening. My money, when it's not on my mind, is on the government officials upholding the rule of law. So say the op-ed propagandists, too. I'm not aware of any that are predicting Trump will win.

     If you want to know what mass hysteria looks like watch the Newsmax coverage of the Trump demo. Alex Jones spoke, Sean Moon was there, and so was Frank Gaffney. Various and sundry freakazoids also spoke, screamed, prayed and so forth. The impression I derived was that the crowd was not composed of optimal shock troops for the revolution.

Quote from: Florestan on December 12, 2020, 02:28:53 PM
You'll have to translate this in plain English for me.

     It's OK, just do your best.
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Florestan

Quote from: drogulus on December 12, 2020, 03:10:49 PM
        It's OK, just do your best.

You'll have to translate this in plain English for me.
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Quote from: Florestan on December 12, 2020, 03:13:44 PM
You'll have to translate this in plain English for me.

     
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Florestan

Quote from: drogulus on December 12, 2020, 03:22:52 PM
     

   

You'll have to translate this in plain English for me.
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ist die Sache, hahaha,
drum verzeihn Sie, hahaha,
wenn ich lache, hahaha! "

drogulus

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Florestan

Quote from: drogulus on December 12, 2020, 03:34:37 PM
     Nu beau ..... vin.

Joseph Robinette Biden Jr

President-Elect iof the USA

Your point being?...
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Quote from: drogulus on December 12, 2020, 03:45:20 PM
     There's something wrong with my bloody internet today. My little vampire keeps disappearing.

Too bad.  ;D
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drogulus


     OK, I'm in Bucharest. There's my baby!

     
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BasilValentine

Quote from: Florestan on December 12, 2020, 01:18:00 PM

If all of the above seem to you like something infringing upon democracy, then so be it. I beg to differ.

You need better information. Trump threatened election officials and legislators with reprisals if they failed to take action to exclude legal ballots. This is a gross abuse of power, inconsistent with democratic principles, and illegal for anyone without presidential immunity. 

milk

Quote from: BasilValentine on December 12, 2020, 08:23:24 PM
You need better information. Trump threatened election officials and legislators with reprisals if they failed to take action to exclude legal ballots. This is a gross abuse of power, inconsistent with democratic principles, and illegal for anyone without presidential immunity.
it's all gaslighting from them. Has American democracy stopped in its tracks? No. Has tump convinced millions that they live in an alternate universe? Yes. Is it dangerous? Yes. It's dangerous.

Herman

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I see GMG's got two USA politix topics now, with the personality types morphing, via phrenology (head size predicts political orientation) into yet another outlet for the usual suspects, who obviously are unaware of the murky history of phrenology, a hundred years ago...

Which brings me to yesterday's demonstrations in DC and other places. Invariably these demonstrations seem to involve folks who have come from all over the country to drink beer and shout at some building perceived to be indifferent to their plight.

I'm not going to ask why they do this (this would require measuring their skull), but I am wondering, Don't these people have jobs and things to do? Last time I checked airplanes don't fly for free (unless it's Airforce One) and traveling across the country in a rusty pickup truck takes a lot of time and gas, too.

71 dB

Quote from: Todd on December 12, 2020, 02:18:06 PM
Even in victory, the left sees scary bogeymen all around,...

The left didn't win in the presidential race. It lost when Bernie Sanders dropped out of the race in the primary. Oligarchs won, again. They got their status quo manager and nothing will fundamentally change. Biden is not "left". Not even close. He is a moderate Republican at heart.
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Quote from: Florestan on December 12, 2020, 12:48:23 PM
Democracy will prevail December 14, 2020. It will also prevail January 20, 2021. Trump will not prevail against democracy.

Yes, that's true, but does it prevail next time? This time Biden's victory was pretty clear with 306 electoral votes. That's pretty hard to overturn, but in 2000 the Republicans where able to steal the election because it was only one state, Florida, and some 500 votes. So, are we going to see these clown coups with every election where Democrats win from now on as the Republicans are openly against democracy and just want their own king in power?
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milk

Quote from: Florestan on December 12, 2020, 12:48:23 PM
It is actual bilge. It's drivel. It's nothing. Trump lost. Whether he acknowledges or not, it doesn't matter. He's already history.

Democracy will prevail December 14, 2020. It will also prevail January 20, 2021. Trump will not prevail against democracy.


I'm not getting why this has turned into such a big point of contention here - that it doesn't matter now even if rejecting reality is a party's cause and reason for being. People who believe in one kind of nonsense are very likely to believe in many kinds of nonsense. My reasons are somewhat anecdotal, but I suspect it's objectively true. Let's see. Covid is fake, masks are fake, vaccines are fake, and Biden's win is fake. One side here seems to be leaning very heavily into "it's much ado about nothing." Maybe there's just a different lesson to be garnered because social media has the echo chambers and the weakening of rational behavior. That goes for the left too. There were a bunch, even on the very far left, saying it was such a big deal that trump was impeached over a "nothing burger." But, like, who cares, right? Just politics, etc. Maybe the bigger point is about social media making everything worse and this just being the beginning of our complete exodus from reality. I do worry about people not living in reality because things do have a way of going wrong in reality.     

Karl Henning

No, the putrescent figurehead ain't going away:

In challenging election defeat, Trump cements his control over the Republican Party
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T. D.

Quote from: k a rl h e nn i ng on December 13, 2020, 06:34:04 AM
No, the putrescent figurehead ain't going away:

In challenging election defeat, Trump cements his control over the Republican Party

Well, yeah, that's a big reason he's doing it. And don't fantasize that he'll go away after 1/20.

Todd

Op-eds truly are one of the more powerful forms of propaganda.
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

drogulus


     Trumpists Believe Bill Gates Is Using Coronavirus to Implant Brain Chips

     First, where can I get one? Second, I didn't find it in a failing op-ed, so does this mean it's true?
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