What are You?

Started by Florestan, May 30, 2021, 12:56:04 PM

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What are You?

Proletarian
2 (10%)
Lower Middle Class
5 (25%)
Higher Middle Class
8 (40%)
Bourgeois
1 (5%)
Aristocrat
0 (0%)
Asshole
4 (20%)
Stinking rich
0 (0%)

Total Members Voted: 18

Florestan

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

I know this is for fun rather than scientific study, but the classification items are not mutually exclusive (or jointly covering the entire sample.) It is because they are not based on a single, same factor. Ie. Classification for automobiles owned, red car (color), Japanese (nation), sedan (shape), diesel, etc.

Plus, Bourgeoisie may mean rich class for non-French speaking people though it may mean middle class to some people.

Florestan

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 30, 2021, 01:05:24 PM
I know this is for fun rather than scientific study,

Precisely --- vote accorrdingly!

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: Florestan on May 30, 2021, 01:08:04 PM
Precisely --- vote accorrdingly!

I didn't see A**hole, so I need time to pick the most accurate category for me.

Florestan

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 30, 2021, 01:05:24 PM
Bourgeoisie may mean rich class for non-French speaking people though it may mean middle class to some people.

True.

Whatever, pick your choice or explain your choice.

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"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Florestan

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 30, 2021, 01:10:19 PM
I didn't see A**hole, so I need time to pick the most accurate category for me.

Fixed.
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Quote from: Florestan on May 30, 2021, 01:11:48 PM
Fixed.

I was pleasantly surprised to see that you kindly added a category of asshole for me, and potentially some other members. This is what I call camaraderie. Thanks a lot and God bless you.

Florestan

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on May 30, 2021, 01:14:55 PM
I was pleasantly surprised to see that you kindly added a category of asshole for me, and potentially some other members.

I aim to please!


QuoteThis is what I call camaraderie. Thanks a lot and God bless you.

You too, my friend, you too!

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Brian

Strictly speaking by US income calculations, I chose higher middle class as I am in the top 25-30% of salary earners, but besides going on very nice vacations, eating very nice food, and listening to lots of classical music, I do not live like a higher middle class person. Rent a small 75 year old house, drive a bad old car, don't have a lot of fancy clothes, don't buy a new iPhone every single year, save or donate around 20-25% of my income, etc.

Mandryka

Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Florestan

Quote from: Mandryka on May 31, 2021, 12:08:14 PM
Champagne Socialist.

Aka caviar left, right?  ;)

Iow, bourgeois through and through.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Mandryka

#11
Quote from: Florestan on June 01, 2021, 08:32:20 AM
Aka caviar left, right?  ;)



Not in English as far as I know.

When I was a university teacher I remember a student, a communist student,  once accused me of being an academic member of the lumpen proletariat.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Florestan

Quote from: Mandryka on June 01, 2021, 08:34:12 AM
When I was a university teacher I remember a student once accused me of being an academic member of the lumpen proletariat.

And I think he was absolutely right.

Champagne Socialist - a person who espouses socialist ideals while enjoying a wealthy and luxurious lifestyle.

It's you all right, ain't it?

>:D :P

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Mandryka

Quote from: Florestan on June 01, 2021, 08:38:11 AM
And I think he was absolutely right.

Champagne Socialist - a person who espouses socialist ideals while enjoying a wealthy and luxurious lifestyle.

It's you all right, ain't it?

>:D :P

Slightly wealthier since my friend Petru introduced me to Tamaioasa Romaneasca. Very tasty and dirt cheap compared with Alsace Gewurtztraminer.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

vandermolen

Champagne Socialist definitely!

;D
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Florestan

Quote from: Mandryka on June 01, 2021, 08:40:30 AM
Slightly wealthier since my friend Petru introduced me to Tamaioasa Romaneasca. Very tasty and dirt cheap compared with Alsace Gewurtztraminer.

Hah!  :)

Well, I I like Gewürztraminer, I really do --- but Tămâioasă Românească is indeed something else.

Now that I think of my original question in a slightly more serious way, I can split my answer in several categories.

My attitude towards money is rather aristocratic --- I never do any bookkeeping and I never refrain from buying whatever I fancy buying at the time --- and not only myself, but I also enocurage and support my wife and son to do the same. Needless to say, we live on perpetual bank debt. Also, I never refrain from lending to relatives, friends or even simple acquaintances --- even though I have had bad experiences in the past.

My attitude towards social values is rather bourgeois --- convinced familist which occasionally peeps porn. No gay marriage and adoptions whatsoever, no abortions save in extreme cases, convinced yet not very church-going Christian, anti-PC, anti-SJW.

My attitude towards politics is rather aristocratic again --- the best regime imo is a constitutional monarchy, where the hereditary head of state is not only far and above petty political quarrels but alos able and willing to curtail the power of sectiional parties in the interest of the society as a whole if need be.




"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Florestan

Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2021, 08:55:53 AM
Champagne Socialist definitely!

;D

I won't add a new option, though --- in my book, Champagne Socialist is Higher Middle Class / Bourgeois.

;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

vandermolen

#17
Quote from: Florestan on June 01, 2021, 09:17:43 AM
I won't add a new option, though --- in my book, Champagne Socialist is Higher Middle Class / Bourgeois.

;D

My daughter put it as her 'Facebook status' a few years ago after I accused her of being one when, despite being deeply concerned with social/political injustice, she attended the 'Henley Regatta' - a very posh event on the Thames.
"Courage is going from failure to failure without losing enthusiasm" (Churchill).

'The test of a work of art is, in the end, our affection for it, not our ability to explain why it is good' (Stanley Kubrick).

Brian

Interesting, what you Europeans call a "Champagne socialist" we Americans call a "limousine liberal." Though Champagne drinking is surely more common than limousine riding!

Florestan

Quote from: vandermolen on June 01, 2021, 09:26:24 AM
My daughter put it as her 'Facebook status' a few years ago after I accused her of being one when, despite being deeply concerned with social/political injustice, she attended the 'Henley Regatta' - a very posh event on the Thames.


Don't get me wrong, Jeffrey, your daughter is a very classy lady which I'd be honored to meet --- but politically I'd rather take a sincere, committed and poor-as-a-church-mouse Socialist / Communist over her "Socialism".

;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy