Quiz: Mystery scores

[Guido]

  Hello Luke! So glad to see you here!

Even the mightiest janacekian can make mistakes! Close, but not quite!! 

[Luke]

Bloody hell, it's Katya isn't it! I have that full score not three feet away from me! Disgusted with self....
1 looks Straussy     but so does 3, actually...is it?

[Luke]

Re no 1 - some of my favourite pages/bars of nothing are by Strauss. He does rests like no one else. This my top one (I know I've mentioned it a million times):

[Luke]

Don't think 3 is Strauss, actually. A number of other possibilities spring to mind, so I will quit whilst I'm not quite ahead. Fantastic to see Guido again...

[Luke]

Feel a bit stupid for thinking that might be Strauss - it was the harmonic sideslips that suggested it, not the physical look of the score.

[Guido]

Katya is right! Right at the end of the prelude. (As someone has noted on the score : libretto starts). I love this prelude, it says so much in such a short time. I hear a clear link to the overture of Rusalka - I've always wondered about this. I love the last 4 Janacek operas to distraction, and every time I listen I find even more to admire. The generosity of the music, its fecundity and ravishing beauty, and the uncompromising, even painful honesty of it never fails to move me.

The only one of janacek's mature operas that doesn't fully grab me is Broucek, though I haven't tried it for a while.

1 and 3 are both Strauss yes. To be clear, I've just cut off the bottom of the score of no.1  - I just wondered whether there was enough information for this august crowd to get this one!

[Guido]

Do I need to give clues for mine? No 1 and 4 are SUPER famous. Number 3 is a Strauss obscurity, but should be gettable I think...

[EigenUser]

I also got really bored during my second class so I started sketching short sections of pieces from memory (just single iconic lines) in the class notes (a very interesting class, but I took it last year and got an 'A-', so it's very hard to pay attention!). Then, about halfway through, I realized that it might be fun to post (kind of like Luke's page of very short lines from famous works). I'll post that later. I wrote the name of the work on each one so I'll have to cover it up with sticky notes. They are all from memory so they're not perfect, but anyone who knows the piece will be able to get it.

Finally got around to it. The pieces of paper in the way of some of them are my way of covering up the titles (which I wrote before I got the idea to post them here). The reference numbers are circled near the clip. Some of these aren't quite right (due to my incorrect memory), but that should make it harder . If you know the pieces well (none are obscure), it should be a piece of cake regardless of my mistakes.

[(poco) Sforzando]

Finally got around to it. The pieces of paper in the way of some of them are my way of covering up the titles (which I wrote before I got the idea to post them here). The reference numbers are circled near the clip. Some of these aren't quite right (due to my incorrect memory), but that should make it harder . If you know the pieces well (none are obscure), it should be a piece of cake regardless of my mistakes.

I see the Berg Violin Concerto, Beethoven Concerto 4, and Tchaikovsky Symphony 5.

[amw]

Ligeti VC/iv, Limoges - Le Marché, Rothko Chapel & Das Lied are in there as well.

[EigenUser]

I see the Berg Violin Concerto, Beethoven Concerto 4, and Tchaikovsky Symphony 5.

Ligeti VC/iv, Limoges - Le Marché, Rothko Chapel & Das Lied are in there as well.

Other than the Ligeti VC, all of these are correct.
3. Berg VC
4. Feldman Rothko Chapel
9. Mussorgsky Pictures at an Exhibition -- Limoges
10. Beethoven PC4
11. Tchaikovsky Symphony No. 5
16. Mahler Das Lied von der Erde

I think that 7 is the hardest since it isn't a main theme. I'm sure Luke will have no problem with 8...

And come on, guys! 2 and 6 are too easy!

[Luke]

Literally just seen these, and kicking myself for having missed the ones that jumped out at me as I scrolled through. No 8 is Ravel, Introduction and Allegro (don't want to fail to live up to expectations!). Now I will look at the rest...

[Luke]

6 is Turangalila

[Luke]

12 is Turangalila too. I know some of the others, eg 15 is very familiar, 7 and 13 too, but I will need to think a little. The Beethoven, Tchaik, Mussorgsky and Mahler I'd have got; the Feldman I know too, in fact i was following that very passage of score a month or so ago, but it would have taken me longer to make that leap.

[EigenUser]

Correct on all of these.

6. Messiaen Turangalila Symphonie (movement VIII)
8. Ravel Introduction and Allegro (opening bars, flute and clarinet)
12. Messiaen Turangalila Symphonie (movement I). Fun fact -- this section is my current ringtone.

Last month when I was at Juilliard I asked an employee if they had Feldman's Rothko Chapel. She found it and brought it over for me -- $65!!! I guess I'm not surprised anymore, but still... I didn't end up getting it.

[(poco) Sforzando]

12 is Turangalila too. I know some of the others, eg 15 is very familiar, 7 and 13 too, but I will need to think a little. The Beethoven, Tchaik, Mussorgsky and Mahler I'd have got; the Feldman I know too, in fact i was following that very passage of score a month or so ago, but it would have taken me longer to make that leap.

And I of course know the Mussorgsky - I've played the damn piece! (Or the bloody piece for our British cousins.) It's amazing how different it looks if you don't sense the tempo in your mind. But then again, unlike my dear friend Luke, I have no reputation to live up to.

BTW, never buy from the Juilliard store. They'll always charge you at least list price if not more. Wish I could offer a better option, but since Patelson's closed on W. 56th Street, NYC has been without a first-class store for printed classical music.

[Karl Henning]

I'm still mourning the passing of Patelson's.

[EigenUser]

And I of course know the Mussorgsky - I've played the damn piece! (Or the bloody piece for our British cousins.) It's amazing how different it looks if you don't sense the tempo in your mind. But then again, unlike my dear friend Luke, I have no reputation to live up to.

I've played it, too (the Ravel orchestration). Isn't it such a fun piece? It is from the 1st violin part -- opening of Limoges.

Funny story -- the first time we played through it, the trumpet player accidentally used the wrong key trumpet. The first two (solo) measures sounded fine since it was alone, but then the rest of the brass section came in and we all cracked up .

BTW, never buy from the Juilliard store. They'll always charge you at least list price if not more. Wish I could offer a better option, but since Patelson's closed on W. 56th Street, NYC has been without a first-class store for printed classical music.

I know, I know... It's really a typical college bookstore as far as pricing schemes are concerned. But how can I walk out empty-handed?? I certainly don't buy as much as I want to.

[amw]

BTW, never buy from the Juilliard store. They'll always charge you at least list price if not more. Wish I could offer a better option, but since Patelson's closed on W. 56th Street, NYC has been without a first-class store for printed classical music.

This place is pretty good, if I recall correctly

http://www.frankmusiccompany.com/catalog/index.php

[(poco) Sforzando]

This place is pretty good, if I recall correctly

http://www.frankmusiccompany.com/catalog/index.php

You are right, and I should have thought of old Frank too. And don't get me wrong, the Juilliard store is terrific as far as inventory goes. With the new remodeling of Lincoln Center, the store is also far more easy to negotiate than the older and more cramped facility ever was. But Patelson for a long time gave discounts (10% back in the day, 5% more recently, and I can't recall if they eventually stopped discounting altogether), and was much more browser-friendly than Frank's was as I recall. (Patelson's had its quirky personalities, but my one visit to Frank's IIRC was so disagreeable that I vowed never to return. Unlike Patelson's, they were also closed on weekends.) And reviews on Yelp complain that Frank's also inflates prices beyond list. At this point I am more likely to turn to sheetmusicplus.com for my score orders (not that I buy as much lately; I'm very glad I bought most of my music years ago when prices were a little less insane).