Could You Live Without Russian Music?

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Florestan

February 26, 2022, 03:06:47 PM
Yes, that's right; no music whatsoever written by any composer whatsoever who identified themselves as Russian.

Could you survive?





"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Scion7

#1
February 26, 2022, 03:17:39 PM
Literally, sure.
But it would be a much darker world ... like Bucharest on a Monday night ...  :P
When, a few months before his death, Rachmaninov lamented that he no longer had the "strength and fire" to compose, friends reminded him of the Symphonic Dances, so charged with fire and strength. "Yes," he admitted. "I don't know how that happened. That was probably my last flicker."

Florestan

#2
February 26, 2022, 03:21:47 PM
Quote from: Scion7 on February 26, 2022, 03:17:39 PM
Bucharest on a Monday night ...  :P

Why, that would be party like hell in my book --- especially if Russians are no more...  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Symphonic Addict

#3
February 26, 2022, 03:24:00 PM
The simple and only answer for me:

NO!
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Scion7

#5
February 26, 2022, 03:38:32 PM
Truly, you two doth spake?
That would be an interesting experiment in biology ... removal of the music ... the slow deterioration of your body-functions.
    8)
When, a few months before his death, Rachmaninov lamented that he no longer had the "strength and fire" to compose, friends reminded him of the Symphonic Dances, so charged with fire and strength. "Yes," he admitted. "I don't know how that happened. That was probably my last flicker."

Todd

#6
February 26, 2022, 03:46:30 PM
Yes, but why would I do that?
The universe is change; life is opinion. - Marcus Aurelius, Meditations

People would rather believe than know - E.O. Wilson

Propaganda death ensemble - Tom Araya

Florestan

#7
February 26, 2022, 03:48:19 PM
Quote from: Todd on February 26, 2022, 03:46:30 PM
Yes, but why would I do that?

Thread winner!
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Symphonic Addict

#8
February 26, 2022, 03:49:45 PM
Quote from: Florestan on February 26, 2022, 03:48:19 PM
Thread winner!

To promote a certain xenophobic treat to Russian people or something like that?
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Florestan

#9
February 26, 2022, 03:54:01 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on February 26, 2022, 03:49:45 PM
To promote a certain xenophobic treat to Russian people or something like that?

Oh, yes, I am a clear and present danger to the Russian people...

Seriously, Cesar?
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Symphonic Addict

#10
February 26, 2022, 03:55:48 PM
Quote from: Florestan on February 26, 2022, 03:54:01 PM
Oh, yes, I am a clear and present danger to the Russian people...

Seriously, Cesar?

I answer with this: I consider myself neutral.  ;D
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Symphonic Addict

#11
February 26, 2022, 03:57:05 PM
I know that you can't live with Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky et al. We're not forced to make it true. So, yes. I enjoy music independently of where it comes.
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Florestan

#12
February 26, 2022, 03:58:13 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on February 26, 2022, 03:55:48 PM
I answer with this: I consider myself neutral.  ;D

So then because thou art lukewarm, and neither cold nor hot, I will spue thee out of my mouth.  ;D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Florestan

#13
February 26, 2022, 04:00:04 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on February 26, 2022, 03:57:05 PM
I know that you can't live with Rachmaninoff, Tchaikovsky et al.

What a textbook failed act!  :D :D :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Archaic Torso of Apollo

#14
February 26, 2022, 04:07:13 PM
OK, just to make Florestan happy, I promise not to listen to any Russian music without thinking about the Gulag and Stalin's purges at the same time.

I also promise not to listen to any German music without thinking about the Nazis; not to listen to any British music without thinking about the Irish Famine; not to listen to any American music without thinking about the Trail of Tears; not to listen to any Japanese music without thinking about the Rape of Nanking; etc. And I further promise not to listen to any Romanian music without thinking about this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_Odessa_massacre#The_beginning_of_the_Holocaust
formerly VELIMIR (before that, Spitvalve)

"Who knows not strict counterpoint, lives and dies an ignoramus" - CPE Bach

Florestan

#15
February 26, 2022, 04:11:42 PM
Quote from: Archaic Torso of Apollo on February 26, 2022, 04:07:13 PM
OK, just to make Florestan happy, I promise not to listen to any Russian music without thinking about the Gulag and Stalin's purges at the same time.

I also promise not to listen to any German music without thinking about the Nazis; not to listen to any British music without thinking about the Irish Famine; not to listen to any American music without thinking about the Trail of Tears; not to listen to any Japanese music without thinking about the Rape of Nanking; etc. And I further promise not to listen to any Romanian music without thinking about this:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1941_Odessa_massacre#The_beginning_of_the_Holocaust

Well, I know this thread is stupid. Please bear with my fluctuating gut reaction.

"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Symphonic Addict

#16
February 26, 2022, 04:12:42 PM
Quote from: Florestan on February 26, 2022, 04:00:04 PM
What a textbook failed act!  :D :D :D

But fortunately I'm not the histerical here. I feel quite relieved.  8)

Good luck, and continue creating stupid threads.  ;)
The current annihilation of a people on this planet (you know which one it is) is the most documented and at the same time the most preposterously denied.

Florestan

#17
February 26, 2022, 04:13:36 PM
Quote from: Symphonic Addict on February 26, 2022, 04:12:42 PM
But fortunately I'm not the histerical. I feel quite relieved.  8)

Hah! 8)
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy

Scion7

#18
February 26, 2022, 04:18:13 PM
"Give me Stravinsky or give me death! Playboy Playmates of the month for October, January, and March 1972-73!!!!
When, a few months before his death, Rachmaninov lamented that he no longer had the "strength and fire" to compose, friends reminded him of the Symphonic Dances, so charged with fire and strength. "Yes," he admitted. "I don't know how that happened. That was probably my last flicker."

Florestan

#19
February 26, 2022, 04:22:51 PM
Quote from: Scion7 on February 26, 2022, 04:18:13 PM
"Give me Stravinsky or give me death! Playboy Playmates of the month for October, January, and March 1972-73!!!!

Tchaikovsky / Rachmaninoff   :D
"Beauty must appeal to the senses, must provide us with immediate enjoyment, must impress us or insinuate itself into us without any effort on our part. ." — Claude Debussy
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