Composers who write well for instruments

Started by zamyrabyrd, August 29, 2007, 06:58:28 AM

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zamyrabyrd

On a televised lecture about the Pathetique Symphony quite a few years ago, Andre Previn said that Tschaikovsky always wrote interesting figurations for the players that were a "joy to play" (exact words, or something close.) I thought it might be interesting to explore those composers who wrote well for a goodly number of instruments or some, or wrote well for some and rather indifferent for others.
Someone reported here or in the old GMG that Rachmaninoff wrote zillions of notes for the violin that were difficult to learn and play.

Instrumentalists who play in orchestras surely have something to share about this subject.

ZB
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

greg

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on August 29, 2007, 06:58:28 AM
Someone reported here or in the old GMG that Rachmaninoff wrote zillions of notes for the violin that were difficult to learn and play.
even more true for Strauss....
but i remember someone else saying that Rachmaninov wrote zillions of notes that often couldn't be heard.... i haven't noticed too much of that when following his scores, but i think i have noticed some of it

BachQ

Prokofiev wrote well for the castanet .......
Wagner wrote well for the Wagner Tuba .......

karlhenning


zamyrabyrd

Liszt also contributed to triangle literature. (Concerto for Piano in Eb)

ZB
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Renfield

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on August 29, 2007, 08:38:02 AM
Liszt also contributed to triangle literature. (Concerto for Piano in Eb)

ZB

Triangle-ists rejoice. :P

karlhenning

Liszt and Schoenberg are as gods unto harmoniumists.

zamyrabyrd

"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: Renfield on August 29, 2007, 08:42:47 AM
Triangle-ists rejoice. :P

Did anyone see the masterclass where Bernstein is trying to teach a student the proper place on the triangle to "ting" it? (He gave up in the end.)

ZB
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

greg

Messiaen wrote well for the ondes martenot...

rappy

Chopin wrote well for the piano I think.

hornteacher

Dvorak always wrote great inner voice parts.  I think it has to do with his experience as a violist.  As a result his clarinet, horn, and viola parts are always very nice.

zamyrabyrd

Quote from: hornteacher on August 29, 2007, 03:09:30 PM
Dvorak always wrote great inner voice parts.  I think it has to do with his experience as a violist.  As a result his clarinet, horn, and viola parts are always very nice.

Yeah, that's what I would like to hear, some inside information about how instrumentalists feel about what's handed to them to play. I heard it's not a lot of fun for doublebass and 'cello players to play eternally repeating bass notes in operas.

ZB
"Men, it has been well said, think in herds; it will be seen that they go mad in herds, while they only recover their senses slowly, one by one."

― Charles MacKay, Extraordinary Popular Delusions and the Madness of Crowds

Bonehelm

Mahler wrote a lot of stuff that can be classified as ''a joy to play'', especially when you're a percussionist. Timpani and gongs!

hornteacher

Quote from: zamyrabyrd on August 29, 2007, 10:04:18 PM
Yeah, that's what I would like to hear, some inside information about how instrumentalists feel about what's handed to them to play. I heard it's not a lot of fun for doublebass and 'cello players to play eternally repeating bass notes in operas.

ZB

Well, a a hornist, I'm partial to Beethoven (who wrote very well for the valveless horn), Dvorak (who was great at creating tone color), and Copland (who wrote passages that could go from gorgeous to powerful in one measure).

greg

scarlatti wrote well for the harpsichord
bach wrote well for the harpsichord
berio wrote interesting for the voice
cage wrote well for the prepared piano
penderecki wrote well for railroad track
xenakis wrote well for the strings
ligeti wrote well for the metronome
respighi wrote well for the recorded bird voices
saariaho wrote well for the computer


Anne

I like Mahler (landler in Sym 2), Rimsky-Korsakov (the celebratory bells from coronation in Boris Godunov), Wagner (beginning of act 1 the storm from Die Walkure), and Berlioz (Requiem).  These are just examples.

Maciek

Quote from: greg on August 30, 2007, 06:31:54 AM
penderecki wrote well for railroad track
for saw, and for siren too!

stockhausen writes great for the helicopter ;D

(I know, I'm not a musician, I should stay out of this thread. But Greg provoked me! :P)

greg

Quote from: Maciek on August 30, 2007, 10:31:21 AM
for saw, and for siren too!

stockhausen writes great for the helicopter ;D

(I know, I'm not a musician, I should stay out of this thread. But Greg provoked me! :P)
hahaha saw and siren especially, i was going to mention that, but it would just ruin the flow of my post

BachQ

Quote from: hornteacher on August 30, 2007, 03:28:44 AM
go from gorgeous to powerful in one measure).

Is there any mutual exclusivity between "gorgeous" and "powerful"?