Liz Truss resigns as British PM

[Mandryka]

PS What if HM refuses the next Tory candidate as PM to force new elections?

If you were British you would just know that it is an unthinkable idea.

I very much doubt Boris Johnson will get 100 nominations. If he does, it is over.  Party members will have to choose between Sunak and Johnson and they will choose Johnson.

[Que]

If you were British you would just know that it is an unthinkable idea.

But I know.     But then again, the late Queen prorogued parliament which turned out to be wholly unconstitional.

I very much doubt Boris Johnson will get 100 nominations. If he does, it is over.  Party members will have to choose between Sunak and Johnson and they will choose Johnson.

I think you're right.

[Irons]

What were these ideas?

Just one, Growth. She thought by simply cutting taxes for the rich (not the poor mind you) or in the case of corporation tax dispensing with it altogether the business world would up-sticks and flock to the UK in droves.

As every living ex PM, Truss will receive a pension of a hundred and fifteen thousand pounds a year for the rest of her life.   

[vandermolen]

I'm not sure that the Party members would vote overwhelmingly for Johnson now.

[71 dB]

You don't need a new party, you need a new system....

Politically less ignorant/illiterate people would also help. A lot of people don't seem to know the difference of marginal and effective tax rates for example. People should know that politicians who offer easy solutions to complex problems are fishing for their vote to have power. Those who offer complex solutions and admit the complexity and difficulty are more honest and trying to improve things for people. Those who are in the politics only for themselves use fear-monger tactics to gain power, while those who want better tomorrow for everyone are talking about courage and hope to achieve great things.

We worship money and success too much. We should always ask what did a rich person do to become rich? Did he/she do morally questionable things? Even illegal things? Or did he/she work hard and use their talent with some luck to achieve success? What has Richie Sunak for example done to be wealthy? My sister pointed out a week ago how elite schools make people feel entitled and special. That doesn't make one to have empathy.

The rich in the UK don't want a new system. They have the system they want. The one that keeps them safely on the top of the societal hierarghy and everyone else far below. All they need to do is to fear-monger and bamboozle the politically ignorant part of the population to vote against their own best and the first-past-the-post system will ensure the power won't go to "wrong hands." The media is owned by rich people. That's why media is always right leaning. Any left leaning media is marginal and reach only those who are leftist to beging with while the right leaning media keeps brainwashing people to think giving more money to rich people is good while giving money to poor people is bad. In the UK this has lead to the current situation where the rich got too much even for themselves with the Tory power and Brexit. They have the power to give massive tax cuts to the rich, except it would crash the economy! Oops! In the US you can do that (and is regularly done), but the UK isn't that strong economy. They don't use dollar. The UK can't buy oil with pounds.

In the UK people can vote the Tories out by supporting the Labour party, but even that isn't the answer. Extensive societal changes are needed to dismantle the class system and to make the society more equal. It is not easy and is something that takes decades. At the moment the brits need to survive the next winter. At least they will learn what years of Tory power brings them (answer: austerity).

[JBS]

Just one, Growth. She thought by simply cutting taxes for the rich (not the poor mind you) or in the case of corporation tax dispensing with it altogether the business world would up-sticks and flock to the UK in droves.

As every living ex PM, Truss will receive a pension of a hundred and fifteen thousand pounds a year for the rest of her life.

I saw something online claiming that's really to maintain an office with staff, and she'll be required to show she's actually spending the money.
Though why an ex-PM needs an office eludes me. For fan mail, perhaps? "Dear Ms. Truss, I loved how you tanked the government and the party all in one go!"

[Mandryka]

I'm not sure that the Party members would vote overwhelmingly for Johnson now.

Unless Sunak's brown skin is enough to make them choose Johnson. You have to remember that the people who vote are the sort of people who have paid to be Tory.

[Todd]

Unless Sunak's brown skin is enough to make them choose Johnson. You have to remember that the people who vote are the sort of people who have paid to be Tory.

It will be hilarious if BoJo takes power again.

[vandermolen]

Unless Sunak's brown skin is enough to make them choose Johnson. You have to remember that the people who vote are the sort of people who have paid to be Tory.

Good point.

[Mandryka]

Good point.

If he's chosen by the party members but the MPs don't want him, how will he manage the situation?

[DaveF]

Boris has just confirmed that he won't be standing.

[Mandryka]

Boris has just confirmed that he won't be standing.

Well that's a relief!

[vandermolen]

If he's chosen by the party members but the MPs don't want him, how will he manage the situation?

That's probably one reason why he withdrew from the competition.

[Karl Henning]

Somehow even we Americans cannot gloat, since the idea of a leader resigning when they fail is inconceivable in the USA. 

No lie!

[Karl Henning]

Balls. Nixon resigned, l watched him do so on live TV in August 1974. ( Granted, his " failure " was in avoiding responsibility and he was far from contrite at the time. )

Yes, but that was when the Republican Party still honored the Oath of their Office. Brian means, given our era's bad-faith Christo-fascist actors, there is no expectation of their resigning.

[Todd]

Rishi Sunak to become the next UK prime minister as rivals quit race

Third time's a charm?

[vandermolen]

Very good news about Sunak becoming PM. We need someone hard-working competent and not a charlatan (Johnson) or an incompetent ideologue (Truss) as one commentator put it.

[Karl Henning]

Very good news about Sunak becoming PM. We need someone hard-working competent and not a charlatan (Johnson) or an incompetent ideologue (Truss) as one commentator put it.

Very good.

[Spotted Horses]

Until Truss' resignation and the floating of Boris Johnson as returning primer minister I hadn't realized that Boris Johnson was still a member of parliament. I has assumed he had resigned that post along with the prime ministership. That's what I would have expected based on what happens when a house speaker or Senate Majority leader is forced out.

[vandermolen]

Until Truss' resignation and the floating of Boris Johnson as returning primer minister I hadn't realized that Boris Johnson was still a member of parliament. I has assumed he had resigned that post along with the prime ministership. That's what I would have expected based on what happens when a house speaker or Senate Majority leader is forced out.

He couldn't have become PM unless he was an MP. In the past that may have been different as a Member of the House of Lords (Lord Salisbury for example) could have become PM.