Top 5 compositions in Pop/Rock Music

Started by Dry Brett Kavanaugh, February 01, 2024, 07:49:39 PM

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Dry Brett Kavanaugh

Ladies and gents, I'm asking for your opinion about best five compositions in popular music. I imagine this is a little different from your personal favorites. If you would like, more than five compositions are very welcome.
Mine are below. Thanks.


1. She Said She Said/Beatles
2. Mother/John Lennon
3. Anarchy in the U.K./Sex Pistols
4. Close to you/Burt Bacharach (Carpenters)
5. Highway Star/Deep Purple

San Antone

Waterloo Sunset - Kinks
Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
Surf's Up - Brian Wilson
Strawberry Fields Forever - Beatles


Szykneij

Came up with 7.

Wichita Lineman - Glen Campbell (Jimmy Webb)
Going Back - The Byrds (Carole King)
Someday - The Carpenters (Carpenter/Bettis)
Rainy Night in Georgia - Brook Benton (Tony Joe White)
Sour Suite - The Guess Who (Burton Cummings)
Year of the Cat - Al Stewart
Where Have All The Cowboys Gone - Paula Cole
Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

Don't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel Paige

ando

Oh boy. Please explain the difference between best and favorite. To my mind there IS no objective criteria, especially in pop/rock music, except what you admire.

These are just five tunes right off the top that I think were written/crafted exceptionally well - and, naturally, ones I like.  :D

The Mexican Babe Ruth

Contusion Stevie Wonder (catalogue full of great ones)

Long Train Running Doobie Brothers (created more than a handful of greats)

Spark Tori Amos (this one or Winter  :) quite a few good ones)

Interstate Love Song Stone Temple Pilots (closest in this list to a definitive pop/rock track, I guess)

Karl Henning

Quote from: ando on February 02, 2024, 07:39:36 AMOh boy. Please explain the difference between best and favorite. To my mind there IS no objective criteria, especially in pop/rock music, except what you admire.

These are just five tunes right off the top that I think were written/crafted exceptionally well - and, naturally, ones I like.  :D

The Mexican Babe Ruth

Contusion Stevie Wonder (catalogue full of great ones)

Long Train Running Doobie Brothers (created more than a handful of greats)

Spark Tori Amos (this one or Winter  :) quite a few good ones)

Interstate Love Song Stone Temple Pilots (closest in this list to a definitive pop/rock track, I guess)

It would certainly be subjective. You may judge a composition excellent without its residing among your favorites.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

springrite

#5
Bruce Hornsby and the Range: The Way It Is
Brian McKnight: I remember You
Gordon Lightfoot: If you could read my mind (well, more for the lyrics...)
Jackson Browne: For a Dancer (well, more for the lyrics as well...)
Michael Martin Murphy: Wild Fire
Do what I must do, and let what must happen happen.

Szykneij

Quote from: Karl Henning on February 02, 2024, 07:46:53 AMIt would certainly be subjective. You may judge a composition excellent without its residing among your favorites.

And, conversely, I have favorites that aren't terribly musically complex, but are fun or have some personal or nostalgic meaning. Since the op chose the term "composition", I took it to mean selections admired for their compositional elements (harmonic structure, form, melodic interest, etc.)
Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

Don't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel Paige

ando

Quote from: Szykneij on February 02, 2024, 08:16:41 AM...I took it to mean selections admired for their compositional elements (harmonic structure, form, melodic interest, etc.)
Understood. But how do you admire a composition you don't particularly like, however complex or compositionally developed? Much less rank it in your top 5?

Luke

#8
Not 5. And some of these are representative of my favourite groups/singers, and other songs could feature equally.



This video is not by the band, and the song doesn't begin straightaway.






Karl Henning

Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Great thread! Now I've more items to go back and listen in on.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

#11
Quote from: Karl Henning on February 02, 2024, 02:19:42 PMGreat thread! Now I've more items to go back and listen in on.

Karl, I never knew that you know/like Michael Jackson's music! Some of Hall and Oates' music sound like Hall have studied music and/or composition at college.

P.s. Do you happen to know that Jeff Beck Group recorded Superstition?

Dry Brett Kavanaugh

#12
Quote from: San Antone on February 02, 2024, 05:08:10 AMWaterloo Sunset - Kinks
Good Vibrations - Beach Boys
Surf's Up - Brian Wilson
Strawberry Fields Forever - Beatles



The Kinks' tune is a good composition.



Quote from: Szykneij on February 02, 2024, 08:16:41 AMAnd, conversely, I have favorites that aren't terribly musically complex, but are fun or have some personal or nostalgic meaning. Since the op chose the term "composition", I took it to mean selections admired for their compositional elements (harmonic structure, form, melodic interest, etc.)

I love the Beatles Tomorrow Never Knows. It's a great, and artistically significant, song imo. But I'm not sure if it's one of best compositions in history.

Karl Henning

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on February 02, 2024, 02:40:39 PMDo you happen to know that Jeff Beck Group recorded Superstition?
Yes, indeed!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Karl Henning

Quote from: Dry Brett Kavanaugh on February 02, 2024, 02:40:39 PMKarl, I never knew that you know/like Michael Jackson's music!
It was an amusing journey. When my sisters Kris & Kim were teens, they were big fans of the Jackson 5 (among others) so for some years I was mildly allergic to Jackson. But when I shed that baggage, I realized how sharp his solo work was. Terrible, flawed human, of course, but the music is at times brilliant.
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Luke

Quote from: Karl Henning on February 02, 2024, 02:57:12 PMTerrible, flawed human, of course, but the music is at times brilliant.

The Sorabji-Jackson similarities never end  ;D  ;D Please continue

Karl Henning

Quote from: Luke on February 02, 2024, 03:04:02 PMThe Sorabji-Jackson similarities never end  ;D  ;D Please continue

(* chortle *)
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Cato

Okay, I ignored most of the popular stuff of the 1950's and beyond as not worth my time: I was teaching myself Music via Gabrieli, Bach, Telemann, and many, many others, following the course of Western Musical History.


Yes, I was a snob at age 10!   ;D


However, my little sister loved a new comedy on television in 1965, (when I was in high school), called The Monkees.    8)


They had some fun songs!   8)   Last Train to Clarksville, I'm a Believer were very popular for a time.  Later, they had a satirical song called Pleasant Valley Sunday which was ear-tickling!


"Mr. Green, he's so serene, he has a T.V. in every room!






Since she often had the radio on to catch a Monkees song, one day I heard a melancholy song by The Beach Boys called Sloop John B, which I did not realize at the time was an old folk song.





Flash forward to when our teenaged daughter was listening to a certain radio station in Toledo, which played the best of the '70's and 80's: the bizarre guitar work in Pat Benatar's Invincible hit me one day.  And Pat Benatar seems to be a woman with whom one must not trifle!   ;D






The station also played Ann and Nancy Wilson's song These Dreams:







Around 2000, The Go-Go's had a hit called Unforgiven, which has some great guitar work, and is a slam-bang piece:






Honorable mention: one of the best alto voices in popular music!  It was fashionable to sneer at Karen Carpenter back in the 1970's, but...











"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

ando

Quote from: Karl Henning on February 02, 2024, 02:57:12 PMTerrible, flawed human, of course, but the music is at times brilliant.
assume much?

Szykneij

Quote from: Cato on February 02, 2024, 04:14:20 PMLater, they had a satirical song called Pleasant Valley Sunday which was ear-tickling!


"Mr. Green, he's so serene, he has a T.V. in every room!



Carole King wrote "Pleasant Valley Sunday", as well as an incredible number of other great tunes for herself and others. I only included one of hers in my original list. I probably could have included 20.

I was, and still am, a Monkees fan.
Men profess to be lovers of music, but for the most part they give no evidence in their opinions and lives that they have heard it.  ~ Henry David Thoreau

Don't pray when it rains if you don't pray when the sun shines. ~ Satchel Paige