The internet

[Henk]

The dog started barking again.

[hopefullytrusting]

That's fair to say.

I used to be just like that, for a long time - it didn't help that I suffered from massive imposter syndrome, and then I came across this quote from Florence Nightingale to Benjamin Jowett:

"I don't want to hear what Hegel thinks of God, nor wat you think about what Hegel thinks of God, but what you think of God. I don't want to hear the philosophy of Hegel (I know it already) but the phiosophy of God. I don't want to know your criticism of what Hegel thought that God thinks. (At that rate philosophy would be nothing but what the nineteenth century thinks of what the eighteenth century thinks of what the seventeenth century thinks of what the fifth century before Christ thinks) but what you think that God thinks."

[AnotherSpin]

I used to be just like that, for a long time - it didn't help that I suffered from massive imposter syndrome, and then I came across this quote from Florence Nightingale to Benjamin Jowett:

"I don't want to hear what Hegel thinks of God, nor wat you think about what Hegel thinks of God, but what you think of God. I don't want to hear the philosophy of Hegel (I know it already) but the phiosophy of God. I don't want to know your criticism of what Hegel thought that God thinks. (At that rate philosophy would be nothing but what the nineteenth century thinks of what the eighteenth century thinks of what the seventeenth century thinks of what the fifth century before Christ thinks) but what you think that God thinks."

Let's leave philosophy aside, and the difficulty will vanish. God does not think. Nor do we, until we begin.

[AnotherSpin]

I think I will practice some more Osho. His book 'Learning to silence the mind. Wellness through meditation.'

There is no need to practice Osho, or anyone else. All such things may bring a result (or may not), but any such result will always be temporary. If a result comes, it will inevitably pass, and you will be left with nothing. Better to stay with nothing from the start.

I agree with the remark that we sometimes depend too much on the thoughts of others. Only I would add: we depend on what other people have thought or said always. All thoughts, even those we consider our own, are in fact borrowed. We are not what we think. Truth is before thought. You are before thought.

[Henk]

I have installed Vivaldi browser. Maybe that improves my internet experience.

See https://vivaldi.com

[Henk]

There is no need to practice Osho, or anyone else. All such things may bring a result (or may not), but any such result will always be temporary. If a result comes, it will inevitably pass, and you will be left with nothing. Better to stay with nothing from the start.

I agree with the remark that we sometimes depend too much on the thoughts of others. Only I would add: we depend on what other people have thought or said always. All thoughts, even those we consider our own, are in fact borrowed. We are not what we think. Truth is before thought. You are before thought.

I rely on ethical practice. It's valuable to me.

A problem I work on for myself: The mind operates in different modes as Osho argues: meditation, concentration, contemplation. Osho says one needs to practice alertness/wakefulness to not be abused by the mind. Working on my brain/mind for better health.

Thought can be innovative however.

I think we can have more or less original thoughts, that are the product of our knowledge and creativity.

Yes, I agree 'you are before thought'. That very much accords with Wilbers' philosophy of 'I amness'. I know quite little of his work. He tries to integrate the different traditions of wisdom. Interesting.

I like buddhism (and Osho), but it has drawbacks. Wilber might result in better outcomes.

[Henk]

I'm figuring out how to live, how to keep on my way. Social media. Relations online and offline. GMG. Community, family, friends. Privacy and the good life.

I'm in transition.

This new browser is quite refreshing btw. Recommended.

In this society one gets bombarded by information, products, marketing. All the cars on the streets, often sirens. It's really too much sometimes, I try to ignore it as much as possible.

Society isn't aware enough of the problem.

[drogulus]

   
     The internet doesn't cause the pain in my right knee or make me look fat. It does however provide me with a forum to complain about the internet. As far as fatness goes, I attribute that to my VPN and an excess of butterscotch pudding.

[Henk]

The internet doesn't cause the pain in my right knee or make me look fat. It does however provide me with a forum to complain about the internet. As far as fatness goes, I attribute that to my VPN and an excess of butterscotch pudding.

 

[Karl Henning]

Butterscotch pudding is the mischief!

[Henk]

I recommend you (and others) @drogulus to visit the Vivaldi website.

'Fighting for a better web
We're not working at Vivaldi, we're fighting.

Fighting for a better web than we have now.

We are fighting for an end to the stranglehold the tech giants have on the web.

We are fighting to end incessant pollution of the web, and civil discourse, for profit.

We are making Vivaldi because we love the web. And because we love the web, we fight to keep it for everyone.'

[drogulus]

I recommend you (and others) @drogulus to visit the Vivaldi website.

     I have enough browser. One of them is bulletproof, so I use it when I'm behind enemy lines.

[AnotherSpin]

I recommend you (and others) @drogulus to visit the Vivaldi website.

'Fighting for a better web
We're not working at Vivaldi, we're fighting.

Fighting for a better web than we have now.

We are fighting for an end to the stranglehold the tech giants have on the web.

We are fighting to end incessant pollution of the web, and civil discourse, for profit.

We are making Vivaldi because we love the web. And because we love the web, we fight to keep it for everyone.'

I've downloaded and opened Vivaldi. Gave it a try, but I couldn't spot much difference straightaway. I normally use Safari, and occasionally Chrome. Perhaps I've missed something, or I'm not seeing what's important right off. What does Vivaldi actually bring to the table for an ordinary user like me, who doesn't poke around in the depths of the internet or dabble in conspiracy theories? If you could put it in plain terms, without too much technical jargon, that would be grand.

[AnotherSpin]

I'm figuring out how to live, how to keep on my way. Social media. Relations online and offline. GMG. Community, family, friends. Privacy and the good life.

I'm in transition.

This new browser is quite refreshing btw. Recommended.

In this society one gets bombarded by information, products, marketing. All the cars on the streets, often sirens. It's really too much sometimes, I try to ignore it as much as possible.

Society isn't aware enough of the problem.

That's wonderful, you're trying to figure out how to live. But why not stop figuring and just live? It's the easiest thing there is. You can't fail at being. You can't stop existing. The mind may spin endless stories and sow doubt, but that doesn't change the obvious. Forget the philosophy and simply live. You are, aren't you? If stray thoughts appear, let them. Then return to the simple knowing that you are. It works like an antidote just fine.

[Henk]

I've downloaded and opened Vivaldi. Gave it a try, but I couldn't spot much difference straightaway. I normally use Safari, and occasionally Chrome. Perhaps I've missed something, or I'm not seeing what's important right off. What does Vivaldi actually bring to the table for an ordinary user like me, who doesn't poke around in the depths of the internet or dabble in conspiracy theories? If you could put it in plain terms, without too much technical jargon, that would be grand.

I used DuckDuckGo with satisfaction but it got defects. Then I used Firefox for awhile, but I got a bad experience (that browser didn't satisfy me overall).

For me Vivaldi works best (so far).

[Henk]

That's wonderful, you're trying to figure out how to live. But why not stop figuring and just live? It's the easiest thing there is. You can't fail at being. You can't stop existing. The mind may spin endless stories and sow doubt, but that doesn't change the obvious. Forget the philosophy and simply live. You are, aren't you? If stray thoughts appear, let them. Then return to the simple knowing that you are. It works like an antidote just fine.

I become who I am.

[Henk]

I have enough browser. One of them is bulletproof, so I use it when I'm behind enemy lines.

You think I am the enemy?

[AnotherSpin]

I become who I am.

Why 'become'? Do you mean a process that will eventually lead to some result, someday in the future? But there is no future; it is an illusion created by the mind. There is only the eternal now, and you are, now. 'Become' is unnecessary.

[Henk]

Shouldn't we find it favorable as classical music lovers to use a browser named 'Vivaldi'? The only drawback is that it seems not to allow images (cd covers) on the web being posted here. But the solution might be to download it and then attach it to a post. 🤗

[Henk]

I'm figuring out how to live, how to keep on my way. Social media. Relations online and offline. GMG. Community, family, friends. Privacy and the good life.

I'm in transition.

This new browser is quite refreshing btw. Recommended.

In this society one gets bombarded by information, products, marketing. All the cars on the streets, often sirens. It's really too much sometimes, I try to ignore it as much as possible.

Society isn't aware enough of the problem.

And Meta and widespread, extensive bugs are part of the problem.

I find it all uncanny and it upsets and disturbs me, even maybe disrupting me.

This morning on my walk again the church bells the whole time.

Maybe I shouldn't have started writing about the girl. I was just worried and called for help.

I probably have made myself suspicious. You all don't know about me though, my illness, trauma, struggles and enemy or enemies.

That Sloterdijk is a creep.