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Henk

The dog started barking again.
'The 'I' is not prior to the 'we'.' (Jean-Luc Nancy)

'... the cultivation of a longing for the absolute born of a desire for one another as different.' (Luce Irigaray)

hopefullytrusting

Quote from: Henk on Today at 12:07:47 PMThat's fair to say.

I used to be just like that, for a long time - it didn't help that I suffered from massive imposter syndrome, and then I came across this quote from Florence Nightingale to Benjamin Jowett:

"I don't want to hear what Hegel thinks of God, nor wat you think about what Hegel thinks of God, but what you think of God. I don't want to hear the philosophy of Hegel (I know it already) but the phiosophy of God. I don't want to know your criticism of what Hegel thought that God thinks. (At that rate philosophy would be nothing but what the nineteenth century thinks of what the eighteenth century thinks of what the seventeenth century thinks of what the fifth century before Christ thinks) but what you think that God thinks."

AnotherSpin

Quote from: hopefullytrusting on Today at 12:25:00 PMI used to be just like that, for a long time - it didn't help that I suffered from massive imposter syndrome, and then I came across this quote from Florence Nightingale to Benjamin Jowett:

"I don't want to hear what Hegel thinks of God, nor wat you think about what Hegel thinks of God, but what you think of God. I don't want to hear the philosophy of Hegel (I know it already) but the phiosophy of God. I don't want to know your criticism of what Hegel thought that God thinks. (At that rate philosophy would be nothing but what the nineteenth century thinks of what the eighteenth century thinks of what the seventeenth century thinks of what the fifth century before Christ thinks) but what you think that God thinks."

Let's leave philosophy aside, and the difficulty will vanish. God does not think. Nor do we, until we begin.

AnotherSpin

Quote from: Henk on Today at 11:50:29 AMI think I will practice some more Osho. His book 'Learning to silence the mind. Wellness through meditation.'

There is no need to practice Osho, or anyone else. All such things may bring a result (or may not), but any such result will always be temporary. If a result comes, it will inevitably pass, and you will be left with nothing. Better to stay with nothing from the start.

I agree with the remark that we sometimes depend too much on the thoughts of others. Only I would add: we depend on what other people have thought or said always. All thoughts, even those we consider our own, are in fact borrowed. We are not what we think. Truth is before thought. You are before thought.