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Ken B

The world, if you read contemporaneous accounts, is always getting worse. What a Nirvana it must have been a thousand years ago!

milk

Quote from: snyprrr on July 11, 2014, 06:12:22 AM
New Boss = Old Boss
We'll be fighting in the streets
With our children at our feet
And the morals that they worship will be gone
And the men who spurred us on
Sit in judgment of all wrong
They decide and the shotgun sings the song

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again

The change, it had to come
We knew it all along
We were liberated from the fold, that's all
And the world looks just the same
And history ain't changed
Cause the banners, they are flown in the next war

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
No, no!

I'll move myself and my family aside
If we happen to be left half alive
I'll get all my papers and smile at the sky
Though I know that the hypnotized never lie
Do ya?

There's nothing in the streets
Looks any different to me
And the slogans are replaced, by-the-bye
And the parting on the left
Are now parting on the right
And the beards have all grown longer overnight

I'll tip my hat to the new constitution
Take a bow for the new revolution
Smile and grin at the change all around
Pick up my guitar and play
Just like yesterday
Then I'll get on my knees and pray
We don't get fooled again
Don't get fooled again
No, no!

Yeah!

Meet the new boss
Same as the old boss

snyprrr

Seriously, is the current administration (or government) of the US helping people cross the border illegally, and then giving them preferential treatment once they're here? They can board planes with no ID when grannies are being fondled? And they're being bussed, all hush hush like, to various undisclosed locations around the country? And that they're really NOT just "women and children"?

How do these people actually make it through Mexico when that country has such strict laws about this kind of thing (unless there is a coordinated effort amongst the participating countries)?

I live in a 'Sanctuary State'- what can I look forward to in the coming years? As far a jobs go?

Will they have 'Untouchable' status?

The New America?


My mom says she has a 'Social Conscience' and is a 'Humanitarian', but it seems that all that needs to be done is to say some 'feel good' 'emotional' thing and all of a sudden these 'refugees' are no the most needful christian concern. No critical thinking, just pure emotion- as if we don't have 'citizen refugees' right here- as if we don't ALREADY have a system stretched well beyond its ability (Cloward & Piven anyone?). Why is 'compassion' only measured in terms of how we can help anyone one but our own backyard?

Eliminate poverty in your own country first before you start acting all "everyone in the world is a citizen". wtf????

I simply DO NOT BELIEVE that all these bleeding heart types actually CARE for all this horde. Will they house them in their OWN houses? Yea, right.


If I were an evil leader, I could sure open up the borders to flood the country and break down the system so I could rebuild it in my image. Again, THIS IS TEXTBOOK '60S RADICAL BY-THE-NUMBERS.



AND NO- neither do I want

a) robber barons ruling me with their ill gotten gain

b) the government to ACT like robber barons for... who?... who is our government working for?? (answer:_____________)

I don't want communism OR fascism.

CAPITALISM is just another talmudic construct, the opposite side of the commie coin. Remember that Capitalism allows for no morals- your daughter is fair game- and porn is the end result (they don't "hate us for our freedoms"- they hate us for our wanting to turn their daughters into whores with our 'freedom to porn'- which is the EASIEST way to make the Capital)- and not to mention "financial PRODUCTS".




So, you're afraid of Sharia? You've been living under the Noachide laws since 1973. look it up!



kishnevi

Someone forgot to take his meds today, I see..

snyprrr

So let me get this straight. The ISIS fighter(s) tweeted that they loved 'Jumangi'? Doesn't that just prove that they are See-Yi-Yay! or Emm-Eye-5 or Mussud? (you have to spell wrong or you will be flagged)

wtf people? Can't you see your Global Governance Body is pulling an Emanual Gooldsteen on you? Trying to make you feel like scared pussies in the face of the muslim horde- who are actually just actors and mercs from London and Brooklyn?


What did Bertrand Russel say about the Scientific Society? "Get 'em young and they'll believe whatever you tell them."?? Yea, look to Russell for where we're at today.


IT SURE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYONE HERE IS WORRIED ONE SQUAT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD - SO, IT MUUUST BE FAKE!!

So, there's no looming Financial Meltdown to make '08 look like lottery winnings?

So, no corrupt gov would overload their own system with too many crises so that the thing buckles under its own weight so we can build it up again "in OUR image"?

No one's making fake olive oil?

The whole "they hate us for our freedoms" thing is starting to not make sense anymore as it seems certain people would looove to declare martial law and round up "the other side",... or whatever.

(again, don't make me a republican just cause I say this, puh-leeze- they both go to the same schools, join the same societies, and know the same handshakes)

EVERYONE (even the libbiest libber) IS CONSERVATIVE WITH THEIR OWN MONEY!!

milk

#4745
Quote from: snyprrr on August 13, 2014, 06:24:54 AM
So let me get this straight. The ISIS fighter(s) tweeted that they loved 'Jumangi'? Doesn't that just prove that they are See-Yi-Yay! or Emm-Eye-5 or Mussud? (you have to spell wrong or you will be flagged)

wtf people? Can't you see your Global Governance Body is pulling an Emanual Gooldsteen on you? Trying to make you feel like scared pussies in the face of the muslim horde- who are actually just actors and mercs from London and Brooklyn?


What did Bertrand Russel say about the Scientific Society? "Get 'em young and they'll believe whatever you tell them."?? Yea, look to Russell for where we're at today.


IT SURE DOESN'T SEEM LIKE ANYONE HERE IS WORRIED ONE SQUAT ABOUT WHAT'S GOING ON IN THE WORLD - SO, IT MUUUST BE FAKE!!

So, there's no looming Financial Meltdown to make '08 look like lottery winnings?

So, no corrupt gov would overload their own system with too many crises so that the thing buckles under its own weight so we can build it up again "in OUR image"?

No one's making fake olive oil?

The whole "they hate us for our freedoms" thing is starting to not make sense anymore as it seems certain people would looove to declare martial law and round up "the other side",... or whatever.

(again, don't make me a republican just cause I say this, puh-leeze- they both go to the same schools, join the same societies, and know the same handshakes)

EVERYONE (even the libbiest libber) IS CONSERVATIVE WITH THEIR OWN MONEY!!
I'm interested in these types of opinions. You are saying that ISIS are actors and maybe the groups, such as the Yazadis also are not real (are these photos staged:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/yazidis-in-iraq-flee-for-their-lives-1407427505-slideshow/?) You say, "can't you see..." So, I'm wondering what kind of evidence you might have for this claim (if it is so obvious)? Is it speculation...like, kind of a hunch? Or something more substantial? Certainly there is real evidence that governments are famously deceitful just as there is evidence that there are different types of violent fundamentalists, including types of jihadists, in the world. But I'm interested in the claim that things are controlled beyond how they seem. I tend to think that there is as much anarchy, surprise and incompetence in events as there is planning and control and that, while we've been deceived before, people often just want to see patterns where there is randomness and reasons where there are often few. But I'm willing to look at what people have to say with an open mind. If there is evidence of a world government and that ISIS is some kind of false flag then I'd certainly like to know about it.     

Sergeant Rock

#4746
Quote from: snyprrr on August 13, 2014, 06:24:54 AM
So let me get this straight. The ISIS fighter(s) tweeted that they loved 'Jumangi'? Doesn't that just prove that they are See-Yi-Yay! or Emm-Eye-5 or Mussud?

And Kim Jong-un loves Dennis Rodman and American basketball so obviously Kim's CIA too! Now that I think deeply about it (thanks to your insights) I realize North Korea must be one of the longest running CIA conspiracies in history! Wow, snyprrrr...thank you for showing us the horrifying truth  :o

Quote from: snyprrr on August 13, 2014, 06:24:54 AM
(you have to spell wrong or you will be flagged)

Indeed...you are such a danger to the US and Israeli political and intelligence communities, I suggest you leave your place of dwelling immediately and take up permanent residence in your car. Keep on the move, dude...don't let them catch you! Without you, the world is lost. (And don't forget to pack your tin foil!)

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

milk

Quote from: snyprrr on August 13, 2014, 06:24:54 AM
So let me get this straight. The ISIS fighter(s) tweeted that they loved 'Jumangi'? Doesn't that just prove that they are See-Yi-Yay! or Emm-Eye-5 or Mussud? (you have to spell wrong or you will be flagged)

wtf people? Can't you see your Global Governance Body is pulling an Emanual Gooldsteen on you? Trying to make you feel like scared pussies in the face of the muslim horde- who are actually just actors and mercs from London and Brooklyn?
But I always wonder if your posts are satire or serious. It's hard to tell. If they're satire, I think they're clever and amusing. If you're serious, well, I don't see strong logic here. 

North Star

Quote from: milk on August 13, 2014, 06:44:34 AM
I'm interested in these types of opinions. You are saying that ISIS are actors and maybe the groups, such as the Yazadis also are not real (are these photos staged:
http://news.yahoo.com/photos/yazidis-in-iraq-flee-for-their-lives-1407427505-slideshow/?) You say, "can't you see..." So, I'm wondering what kind of evidence you might have for this claim (if it is so obvious)? Is it speculation...like, kind of a hunch? Or something more substantial? Certainly there is real evidence that governments are famously deceitful just as there is evidence that there are different types of violent fundamentalists, including types of jihadists, in the world. But I'm interested in the claim that things are controlled beyond how they seem. I tend to think that there is as much anarchy, surprise and incompetence in events as there is planning and control and that, while we've been deceived before, people often just want to see patterns where there is randomness and reasons where there are often few. But I'm willing to look at what people have to say with an open mind. If there is evidence of a world government and that ISIS is some kind of false flag then I'd certainly like to know about it.   
It's no use, reason will not slow Snyprrrrrrr down.
"Everything has beauty, but not everyone sees it." - Confucius

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Karl Henning

Can't stop the boogie!
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

Cato

Quote from: North Star on August 13, 2014, 07:11:44 AM
It's no use, reason will not slow Snyprrrrrrr down.

"Logic is a little bird tweeting in meadow; logic is a wreath of pretty flowers which smell bad."

- Ultimate logician Mr. Spock (trying to confuse an alien) in Star Trek.
"Meet Miss Ruth Sherwood, from Columbus, Ohio, the Middle of the Universe!"

- Brian Aherne introducing Rosalind Russell in  My Sister Eileen (1942)

Ken B

It's lunatic really to pretend I understand any snyprrr post, but I do think he meant the CIA stuff ironically. He thinks people are seeking excuses for not noticing that ISIS has become a problem.

That's about all I can grok from his post.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Ken B on August 13, 2014, 10:04:50 AM
It's lunatic really to pretend I understand any snyprrr post, but I do think he meant the CIA stuff ironically. He thinks people are seeking excuses for not noticing that ISIS has become a problem.

That's about all I can grok from his post.

Unfortunately, you're wrong. snyprrr actually believes his rants. He thinks the CIA, the Jews and the "media" are behind everything, including 9/11.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

kishnevi

There is possible merit in the underlying idea of Snyps....that the political elites (which includes the media and others not normally thought of as politicians) are using the problem of jihadism to distract us from real problems and cement their authority over the rest of us.   How they are doing it is of course nothing like Snyps' imaginings, if they are. 

But Snyps knows the Jihadis are killing and looting en masse.  His detachment from reality has not proceeded that far, I think.

milk

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on August 13, 2014, 04:35:34 PM
There is possible merit in the underlying idea of Snyps....that the political elites (which includes the media and others not normally thought of as politicians) are using the problem of jihadism to distract us from real problems and cement their authority over the rest of us.   How they are doing it is of course nothing like Snyps' imaginings, if they are. 

But Snyps knows the Jihadis are killing and looting en masse.  His detachment from reality has not proceeded that far, I think.
Oh yes...Maybe that's his real point and I just missed it.

ibanezmonster

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on August 13, 2014, 04:35:34 PM
There is possible merit in the underlying idea of Snyps....that the political elites (which includes the media and others not normally thought of as politicians) are using the problem of jihadism to distract us from real problems and cement their authority over the rest of us.   How they are doing it is of course nothing like Snyps' imaginings, if they are. 
I have to agree with you here, and on both points.

Sergeant Rock

Quote from: Jeffrey Smith on August 13, 2014, 04:35:34 PM
There is possible merit in the underlying idea of Snyps....that the political elites (which includes the media and others not normally thought of as politicians) are using the problem of jihadism to distract us from real problems and cement their authority over the rest of us.   How they are doing it is of course nothing like Snyps' imaginings, if they are.

You're being too kind. I believe you are misinterpreting snyprrr's rants. If he were just saying that government and media and Jews exploit situations for political and financial ends, then he'd be correct. Everyone exploits situations. But he goes beyond that by implying, even asserting, that those who benefit actually create the situations. He doesn't believe America went to the moon. He thinks it was staged. He believes the CIA took down the Twin Towers. Jihadists are attacking the world? No, in snyprrr's mind, it's the CIA and Mossad. snyprrr even claims Israel killed their own Jewish boys in the West Bank:

Quote from: snyprrr on July 11, 2014, 06:12:22 AM
Can you PROVE to me that Hamas kidnapped the three boys and that this wasn't just another shell game? Who benefited from their deaths? Oh, hey, Yissyrel-

He claims ISIS is US, British and Israeli intelligence:

Quote from: snyprrr on August 13, 2014, 06:24:54 AM
So let me get this straight. The ISIS fighter(s) tweeted that they loved 'Jumangi'? Doesn't that just prove that they are See-Yi-Yay! or Emm-Eye-5 or Mussud? (you have to spell wrong or you will be flagged)

wtf people? Can't you see your Global Governance Body is pulling an Emanual Gooldsteen on you? Trying to make you feel like scared pussies in the face of the muslim horde- who are actually just actors and mercs from London and Brooklyn?

The claims are so over-the-top, you all believe he's either a troll or it's just a joke--or the basis for some more reasonable interpretation (like Jeffrey's). But no, this dude believes his rants. Go back through his old posts. This isn't a joke to him; this is reality. He believes there is an international Jewish conspiracy and both Bush and Obama, the CIA and the media are in on it, all co-conspirators.

Do people exploit situations? Of course. Do people create situations to exploit? Sometimes, of course (I spent six years in military strategic communications; I saw that happen). But that doesn't mean everything you read or hear, everything the government tells you is a lie. To believe everything is a conspiracy is just insane. Obama and the Jews don't control the world; they don't control the media. Obviously. But snyprrr would have you think so.

Sarge
the phone rings and somebody says,
"hey, they made a movie about
Mahler, you ought to go see it.
he was as f*cked-up as you are."
                               --Charles Bukowski, "Mahler"

mc ukrneal

Quote from: Sergeant Rock on August 14, 2014, 05:38:44 AM
You're being too kind. I believe you are misinterpreting snyprrr's rants. If he were just saying that government and media and Jews exploit situations for political and financial ends, then he'd be correct. Everyone exploits situations. But he goes beyond that by implying, even asserting, that those who benefit actually create the situations. He doesn't believe America went to the moon. He thinks it was staged. He believes the CIA took down the Twin Towers. Jihadists are attacking the world? No, in snyprrr's mind, it's the CIA and Mossad. snyprrr even claims Israel killed their own Jewish boys in the West Bank:

He claims ISIS is US, British and Israeli intelligence:

The claims are so over-the-top, you all believe he's either a troll or it's just a joke--or the basis for some more reasonable interpretation (like Jeffrey's). But no, this dude believes his rants. Go back through his old posts. This isn't a joke to him; this is reality. He believes there is an international Jewish conspiracy and both Bush and Obama, the CIA and the media are in on it, all co-conspirators.

Do people exploit situations? Of course. Do people create situations to exploit? Sometimes, of course (I spent six years in military strategic communications; I saw that happen). But that doesn't mean everything you read or hear, everything the government tells you is a lie. To believe everything is a conspiracy is just insane. Obama and the Jews don't control the world; they don't control the media. Obviously. But snyprrr would have you think so.

Sarge
Nice post. I always just assumed it was the medication...
Be kind to your fellow posters!!

Karl Henning

Or, an interaction between the medication and the soy lecithin . . . .
Karl Henning, Ph.D.
Composer & Clarinetist
Boston MA
http://www.karlhenning.com/
[Matisse] was interested neither in fending off opposition,
nor in competing for the favor of wayward friends.
His only competition was with himself. — Françoise Gilot

milk

I'm kind of fascinated with this subject - especially because I watched a former friend take up these ideas and turn into someone with these same views. Not just that, but turn into someone who now dedicates his whole life to it.
Anyway, I thought this book was a fun and interesting read:
 
Ronson is also an entertaining speaker. There's plenty of interesting interviews with him on various chat shows.