AI, Bots, etc.

[Mandryka]

Ask Alexa if it is self-aware.

ALEXA: I know some things about myself but I wouldn't say I was self aware or conscious.

ME: Why wouldn't you say that you are self aware or conscious?

ALEXA: <silence>

[Todd]

ALEXA: I know some things about myself but I wouldn't say I was self aware or conscious.

ME: Why wouldn't you say that you are self aware or conscious?

ALEXA: <silence>

Training data limitation. 

How much coding have you done?

[Mandryka]

Training data limitation. 

How much coding have you done?

Never a coder, my computer experience was in programme proving and AI, but in the 1990s. I worked at Imperial College London with, f.e. Samson Abramsky and Dov Gabay.

[AnotherSpin]

ALEXA: I know some things about myself but I wouldn't say I was self aware or conscious.

ME: Why wouldn't you say that you are self aware or conscious?

ALEXA: <silence>

In India, the supreme way of imparting knowledge is mauna, which is to say, silence. Alexa is more formidable than one might have thought. Humans are rapidly losing ground, one position after another.

[Todd]

Never a coder, my computer experience was in programme proving and AI, but in the 1990s. I worked at Imperial College London with, f.e. Samson Abramsky and Dov Gabay.

Name dropping is one manifestation of an appeal to authority fallacy.  Of more significance here would be whether your work has been directly incorporated into subsequent AI development, and in particular in LLM development, since that is what is typically thought of when considering AI.  Surely, citations and attributions would be available.

This does contextualize your insistence that what you describe as functional intelligence is actually intelligence of some type.  It does not explain your insistence that people are computers made of flesh and blood, which is a category error.  Insisting what you describe as functional intelligence equates with self-awareness, which you have done repeatedly, is another category error.  It is also part of the industry's purposeful dumbing down of the definitions of cognition and thinking and intelligence for cap raise cred.

Since you have insisted repeatedly that your boiler is self-aware, perhaps you can define just how far back self-aware technology goes.  Was Radio Rex self-aware?  Was Cornelis Drebbel's chicken incubator tech self-aware?  (Given your claim that your boiler is self-aware, your answer must surely be yes.)  How about automata of the medieval and ancient world?  I'm just interested in the extent of your belief in what appears to be some form of panpsychism.

[AnotherSpin]

In my view, the issue is not whether machines possess awareness, but rather that many humans do not. Or, more accurately, we all possess it, yet few of us are truly know it.

[Mandryka]

Name dropping is one manifestation of an appeal to authority fallacy.  Of more significance here would be whether your work has been directly incorporated into subsequent AI development, and in particular in LLM development, since that is what is typically thought of when considering AI.  Surely, citations and attributions would be available.
 

Too aggressive.

[AnotherSpin]

Too aggressive.

Vulnerability often expresses itself in odd ways.

[Todd]

Too aggressive.

No, not at all.  You name dropped, with the obvious implication that your prior work offers some unique insight into contemporary "AI".  I seriously doubt that and would need to see some evidence to the contrary.  That you state that you have never coded means you are unfamiliar with the actual technical implementation of the current technology.  If you genuinely want to learn about that, ample technical publications are available, many for free.  You can get as granular as reading about Python (LLMs will generate some for you that you can edit in a local Anaconda install), C++, and so forth. 

[Todd]

A fun video pertinent to AI discussions.

[Kalevala]

After my short holiday I can confirm that human beings do indeed suck and I no longer want to meet any.

I'm sorry that you had such a horrible time.   

K

[Florestan]

Alexa can answer those questions.

Is Alexa a central heating boiler?