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George

Quote from: Mandryka on February 16, 2010, 01:20:19 AM
If you have that listing in a word file, I would very much like to see it.

Me too, please, Que:)

QuoteIt's a great time if you are interested in recorded music. You can get in touch with knowledgeable people through the web, and Cds are cheaper and easier to find than ever before.

I agree.  :)

Que

Quote from: Mandryka on February 16, 2010, 01:20:19 AM
If you have that listing in a word file, I would very much like to see it.


Sorry, just a screen-print-out on plain old paper... :-\

Q

Mandryka

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Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 1
Brahms Piano Concerto No.2 in B-flat Major, Op.83  (LSO/Coates) (1929)
Tchaikovsky PIano Concerto N0.1 in B-flat minor, Op.23  (LSO/ Barbirolli) (1932)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 2
Chopin
1.Waltz No. 2, Op. 34, No. 1 In A-Flat Major
2.Waltz No. 7, Op. 64, No. 2 In C-Sharp Minor
3.Mazurka No. 23, Op. 33, No. 2 In D Major
4.Mazurka No. 35, Op. 63, No. 1 In B Major
5.Mazurka No. 39, Op. 63, No. 1 In B Major
Liszt
6.Consolation No. 3 In D-Flat Major
7.Hungarian Rhapsody No. 10 In E Major
8.Liebestraum No. 3 In A-flat Major
Rachmaninoff
9.Prelude, Op. 3 , No. 2 In C-Sharp Minor
Debussy
10.Preludes, Book I: No. 10: La cathedrale engloutie
11.Pour le piano, No. 1: Prelude In A Minor
Ravel
12.Le tombeau de Couperin: Forlane
Grandos
13.Goyescas, No. 4: The Maiden And The Nightingale
Falla
14.El Amor Brujo: Dance Of Terror
15.El Amor Brujo: Ritual Fire Dance
Villa-Lobos
16. Prole Do Bebe, Book I: No. 2: Moreninha
17. Prole Do Bebe, Book I: No. 6: A pobrezinha
18. Prole Do Bebe, Book I: No. 7: O Polichinelo
(1929-1937)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 3
Brahms:
1-4 Pno Qt No.1 in g, Op.25 with the Pro Arte Qt
5-8 Vn Son No. 3 Op. 108 with Paul Kochanski (1932)
9-11 Vc Son No.1 in e, Op.38 with Gregor Piatigorsky (1936)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 4
Chopin
1. Polonaise No.1 in c#, Op.26, No.1
2. Polonaise No.2 in e flat, Op.26, No.2
3. Polonaise No.3 in A, Op.40, No.1 ('Military')
4. Polonaise No.4 in c, Op.40, No.2
5. Polonaise No.5 in f#, Op.44
6. Polonaise No.6 in A flat, Op.53 ('Heroic')
7. Polonaise-Fant in A flat, Op.61
8. Andante Spianato & Grande Polonaise in E flat, Op.22: Andante Spianato
9. Andante Spianato & Grande Polonaise in E flat, Op.22: Grande Polonaise
10. Barcarolle in F#, Op.60
11. Berceuse in D flat, Op.57
(1928,1932,1935)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 5
Chopin:The 2 Concertos ; 19 Nocturnes (1937, 1931, 1936/37)

Rubinstein Collection, vol. 6
Chopin: Mazurkas, 4 Scherzos (1938/39, 1932)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 7
Isaac Albeniz, Gabriel Faure, Cesar Franck, Francis Poulenc
1. Son in A: Allegro Bene Moderato - Arthur Rubinstein/Jascha Heifetz
2. Son in A: Allegro - Arthur Rubinstein/Jascha Heifetz
3. Son in A: Recitativo - Fantasia - Arthur Rubinstein/Jascha Heifetz
4. Son in A: Allegro Poco Mosso - Arthur Rubinstein/Jascha Heifetz
5. Nocturne No.3 in A flat, Op.33
6. 3 Movts Perpetuels
7. Napoli Ste: Barcarolle
8. Napoli Ste: Nocturne
9. Napoli Ste: Caprice Italienne
10. Cordoba, Op.232 No.4
11. Sevillanas (Ste Espanola No.3)
12. Evocacion (Iberia No.1)
13. Triana (Iberia, No.6)
14. Navarra
(1929.1937,1938,1947)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 8
Bach:Toccata,Adagio and Fugue, BWV 564 (11/1934)
Schubert:Impromptus D.899 no.4 (04/18/1928)
         Sonata D.894,3rdmovement (10/29/1936)
Schumann:Romances Op.28 no.2 (04/02/1937)
         Arabeske Op.18 (10/01/1937)
         Kinderszenen Op.15 no.7
         Myrthen Op.25 no.1 (10/01/1947)
Brahms:Pieces for Piano Op.76 no.2 (03/09/1928)
       Rhapsodies Op.79 no.2 (04/03/1937)
       Songs Op.49 no.4 (10/01/1947)
       Valse-Caprice (11/07/1935)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol.9
Mozart:Piano Concerto no.23 (John Barbirolli,01/09/1931)
Beethoven:Piano Concerto no.4 (Sir Thomas Beecham,09/30/1947)
Rachmaninoff: Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini (Walter Susskind,09/16/1947)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol.10
Beethoven:Piano Sonata Op. 13 (08/26/1946)
Brahms: Rhapsodies Op.79 no.1,no.2
        Intermezzo,Op.117 no.1,2; Op.118 no.2,6;Op.119 no.3;Op.76 no.2
        Ballade Op.118 no.3
        Hungarian Dance no.4
        Wiegenlied Op.49 no.4 (1941,1947)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol.11
Beethoven:Piano Sonata Op.81a (12/31/1940)
Cesar Franck: Prelude, Chorale & Fugue
Gershwin: Preludes
Szymanowski: Mazurkas
Darius Milhaud; Heitor Villa-Lobos; Franz Liszt etc(1945,1946)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol.12
Beethoven: Piano Trio Op. 97
Schubert: Piano Trio D.898 
(09/13/1941 with Heifetz, Feuermann )

Rubinstein Collection, Vol.13
Grieg:Piano Concerto,Op.16 (Ormandy,03/06/1942)
Ballade:Op.24 (11/06/1953)
11 Lyric Pieces (1953)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol.14
Beethoven: Piano Concerto no.3 Op.37 (Toscanini,10/29/1944)
           Piano Sonata Op.31 no.3 (08/27/1946)
           Piano Sonata Op.57 'Appassionata (05/22/1945)


Rubinstein Collection, Vol.15
Rachmaninoff:Piano Concerto no.2 Op.18 (Vladimir Golschmann,05/27/1946)
Tchaikovsky:Piano Concerto no.1 Op.23 (Dimitri Mitropoulos,11/16/1946)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 16
Chopin:24 Preludes, Op. 28 (6/10,11/1946)
       Berceuse, Op. 57 (06/20/1946)
       Barcarolle, Op. 60 (08/28/1946)
       Sonata No. 2, Op. 35 (03/11,18,29/1946)
       Impromptu No. 3, Op. 51 (03/26/1946)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 17
Chopin: Piano Concerto no.1 Op.11 (Alfred Wallenstein,12/12/1953)
        Piano Concerto no.2 Op.21 (William Steinberg,03/25/1946)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 18
Music Of Spain: Works by Falla, Granados, Albéniz, Mompou (1949,1953,1954,1955)

Rubinstein Collection, Vol. 19
Mozart:Piano Concerto no.23 (Vladimir Golschmann,11/14/1949)
Schumann: Piano Concerto Op.54 (William Steinberg,05/09,10/1947)
          Vogel als prophet;Arabeske;Traumerei;Widmung (1946,1947)

Vol. 20
Schumann: Carnaval, Op.9 (10/2,27,28,29/1953)
          Fantasiestucke, Op.12 (06/16/1949)
          Novellette in F, Op.21 no.1;no.4 (10/23,27/1953)
          Romance in F#, Op.28 No.2 (12/12/1953)

Vol. 21 Brahms: piano sonata no. 3 Op. 5; Capriccio Op. 76, no.2; Intermezzo Op. 117, no. 2 (1949) Rhapsodies Op. 79, nos. 1 & 2 Op. 119, no. 4 (1953)

vol.22  Brahms concerto#2 (Munch),  Grieg concerto (Dorati)
vol.23  Faure quartet#1, Schuman Quintet  (Paganini Quartet) (1949)
vol.24  piano trio: Mendelssohn #1 (Heifetz, Piatigorsky), Brahms #1 (Heifetz, Feuermann)
vol.25  piano trio: Ravel, Tchaikovsky  (Heifetz, Piatigorsky)
vol.26  Chopin: nocturne, scherzo
vol.27  Chopin mazurka
vol.28  Chopin  7 polonaise
vol.29  Chopin 14 walzers
vol.30  debussy, franck, etc:  piano solo
vol.31  Liszt, Anton Rubinstein:  piano solo
vol.32  Liszt concerto#1 (Dorati), Szymanowski symphony #4 for piano & orchestra (Wallenstein), Falla 'Nights in the Gardens of Spain' (Jorda)
vol.33  Beethoven sonatas #8\21\23
vol.34  Brahms concerto#1 (Reiner)
vol.35  Rachmaninov: concerto#2, Rhapsody on a Theme of Paganini  (Reiner)
vol.36  Beethoven piano concerto 1-5 (Krips)
vol.37  Grieg concerto (Wallenstein), Tchaikovsky concerto#1 (Leinsdorf)
vol.38  Brahms: concerto#2, etc. (Krips)
vol.39  Schumann: concerto (Krips), symphonic etudes, etc
vol.40  Beethoven violin sonata #5\8\9 (Szeryng)
vol.41  Brahms violin sonata (Szeryng)
vol.42  Carnegie Hall Highlights
vol.43  Music of France
vol.44  Chopin concerto: #1 (Wallenstein) , #2 (Skrowaczewski)
vol.45  Chopin  ballade, scherzo
vol.46  Chopin  sonata #2\3, barcarolle, berceuse
vol.47  Chopin  walzer, impromptu, bolero
vol.48  Chopin  polonaise, andante spianato & grande polonaise
vol.49  Chopin 19 Nocturnes
vol.50  Chopin 51 Mazukas
vol.51  Schumann:  piano solo
vol.52  Schumann: kleileriana, fantasie
vol.53  concerto: Schumann (Giulini), Liszt #1, Saint-Saens #2 (Wallenstein)
vol.54  Schubert: sonata#21, wanderer fantasia, etc

vol.55 Beethoven piano sonata Op. 2, no. 3 (1963); Schubert piano sonata D960 (1969)
vol.56 Beethoven piano sonatas Op. 13 ("Pathétique"), Op. 27, no. 2 ("Moonlight") (1962), Op. 57 ("Appassionata") (1963), Op. 81a ("Les Adieux") (1962)
vol.57  Beethoven concerto #1\3  (Leinsdorf)
vol.58  Beethoven concerto #4\5  (Leinsdorf)
vol.59  concerto: Beethoven #2,  Brahms #1 (Leinsdorf)
vol.60  Grieg concerto (Wallenstein), Rachmaninov concerto#2 (Ormandy)
vol.61  Mozart concerto: 17-23(Wallenstein), 24(Krips)
vol.62 "Recital in Moscow, October 1, 1964"

vol.64  Brahms cello sonatas  (Piatigorsky)
vol.65  Brahms piano quartet #1\3  (Quarneri quartet)
vol.66  Dvorak quartet#2, Schumann quintet  (Quarneri quartet)
vol.67  quintet: Dvorak, Brahms (Quarneri quartet)


vol.71  Brahms concerto#2 (Ormandy), Schumann fantasy
vol.72  Brahms piano trio (Fournier, Szeryng)


vol.77  Beethoven: concerto#1\2 (Barenboim)
vol.78  Beethoven: concerto#3\4 (Barenboim)
vol.79  Beethoven: concerto#5 (Barenboim), sonata#18
vol.80  Recital for Israel in 1975
vol.81  Brahms concerto#1 (Mehta)
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

dirkronk

Quote from: Mandryka on February 20, 2010, 07:53:41 AM
Rubinstein Collection, Vol.14
Beethoven: Piano Concerto no.3 Op.37 (Toscanini,10/29/1944)
           Piano Sonata Op.31 no.3 (08/27/1946)
           Piano Sonata Op.57 'Appassionata (05/22/1945)


Others here are very fine, but this one is special IMO. Rubinstein was hardly a pianist I'd point to for Beethoven, but the live Appassionata here (first pointed out to me by Holden) is exceptional.

Dirk


Mandryka

#65
Quote from: dirkronk on February 20, 2010, 11:29:14 AM
Others here are very fine, but this one is special IMO. Rubinstein was hardly a pianist I'd point to for Beethoven, but the live Appassionata here (first pointed out to me by Holden) is exceptional.

Dirk

Yes, it's good. Well remastered. Exciting interpretation.

I know he can be dry, but sometimes he's pretty good in Beethoven -- I like the 31/3 on the same disc

This one looks interesting :

Rubinstein Collection, Vol.10
Beethoven:Piano Sonata Op. 8 (08/26/1946)
Brahms: Rhapsodies Op.79 no.1,no.2
        Intermezzo,Op.117 no.1,2; Op.118 no.2,6;Op.119 no.3;Op.76 no.2
        Ballade Op.118 no.3
        Hungarian Dance no.4
        Wiegenlied Op.49 no.4 (1941,1947)

Anyone know it? How is the sound?

Be wary of the listing -- it had said Vol. 10 contains Beethoven Sonata No. 13, (which is Op 27/1) . In fact it contains Beethoven Op 13 No 8 -- Pathetique.

You can imagine my curiosity at the thought of Rubinstein in Op 27/1!

I have made the change to the OP.

Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

prémont

Quote from: Mandryka on February 20, 2010, 11:17:09 PM



Rubinstein Collection, Vol.10
Beethoven:Piano Sonata Op. 8 ?????(08/26/1946)

Be wary of the listing -- it had said Vol. 10 contains Beethoven Sonata No. 13, (which is Op 27/1) . In fact it contains Beethoven Op 13 No 8 -- Pathetique.


I have made the change to the OP.
Reality trumps our fantasy far beyond imagination.

Herman

Quote from: Mandryka on February 20, 2010, 11:17:09 PM
Yes, it's good. Well remastered. Exciting interpretation.

I know he can be dry, but sometimes he's pretty good in Beethoven -- I like the 31/3 on the same disc

This one looks interesting :

Rubinstein Collection, Vol.10
Beethoven:Piano Sonata Op. 8 (08/26/1946)
Brahms: Rhapsodies Op.79 no.1,no.2
        Intermezzo,Op.117 no.1,2; Op.118 no.2,6;Op.119 no.3;Op.76 no.2
        Ballade Op.118 no.3
        Hungarian Dance no.4
        Wiegenlied Op.49 no.4 (1941,1947)

Anyone know it? How is the sound?



I have this one. The sound is excellent; the transfer is by Ward Marston. If I play this cd it is for the Brahms, not because there is anything wrong with the Beethoven, but why would I listen to the Pathetique? I'm sure many others will be happy to do that for me.

The Brahms pieces are largely from 1941 (whereas the LvB is from five years later), and they sound great. The forties and early fifties were a great time for Rubinstein recordings.

Mandryka

#68
Quote from: Herman on February 21, 2010, 06:03:17 AM
I have this one. The sound is excellent; the transfer is by Ward Marston. If I play this cd it is for the Brahms, not because there is anything wrong with the Beethoven, but why would I listen to the Pathetique? I'm sure many others will be happy to do that for me.

The Brahms pieces are largely from 1941 (whereas the LvB is from five years later), and they sound great. The forties and early fifties were a great time for Rubinstein recordings.



I am sure the Brahms is good -- his 50s  recording of the C sharp minor Intermezzo Op. 117/3 is outstanding I think.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

Mandryka

#69
Quote from: Herman on February 15, 2010, 11:44:32 AM
They are very good, though there are some lovely ones in the 60s set, too.

And a Polonaise set.

You got your work cut out for you. Perhaps try to get the Mazurkas first.

Is there anyone who can locate that mazurka set at a reasonable price ? It's the Rubinstein Collection Vol. 27.

I've just got an e-mail to say that my order from an amazon reseller has been cancelled.  The only replacement I can find is a low quality download -- I really want the CDs, but I would make do with a lossless or 320kbps download.

Things are changing eh? My experience with this has made me suspect that the days of CD and hi-fi are numbered, even for connoisseurs' classical music recordings like this.

Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

George

Quote from: Mandryka on March 03, 2010, 10:03:53 AM
Is there anyone who can locate that mazurka set at a reasonable price ? It's the Rubinstein Collection Vol. 27.


What year was those Mazurkas recorded? I might be able to track them down.

The new erato

Quote from: Mandryka on March 03, 2010, 10:03:53 AM


Things are changing eh? My experience with this has made me suspect that the days of CD and hi-fi are numbered, even for connoisseurs' classical music recordings like this.
Things sold out before also, only know you've got an alternative.

Holden

Quote from: George on March 03, 2010, 10:24:34 AM
What year was those Mazurkas recorded? I might be able to track them down.

These are his 1950s recordings of the mazurkas
Cheers

Holden

George

Quote from: Holden on March 04, 2010, 12:04:10 AM
These are his 1950s recordings of the mazurkas

Thanks. Do you prefer them to his stereo recordings of these works?

Holden

Quote from: George on March 04, 2010, 02:58:51 AM
Thanks. Do you prefer them to his stereo recordings of these works?

To be honest, sitting down and listening to all the Mazurkas in one go is a task I've never warmed to. I compare it to listening to all of Scarlatti's 555 sonatas in chronological order - it becomes mind numbing after a while. Yet I love the Scarlatti sonatas and also the Chopin mazurkas. They were never written as a complete set and I take them in moderation, a few pieces at a time so I am not the best person to comment. The only complete set I have is Rubinstein from the 1930s which I enjoy.
Cheers

Holden

Mandryka

Quote from: Herman on February 15, 2010, 11:44:32 AM
They are very good, though there are some lovely ones in the 60s set, too.

And a Polonaise set.

You got your work cut out for you. Perhaps try to get the Mazurkas first.

Thanks for the encouragement Herman. I think that the 50s set of Mazurkas  is outstanding. I am going to get the Polonaises too.

He's a straightforward pianist Rubinstein -- not too much psychological profundity or numinous ineffability and all that malarkey.

For this reason I think he's at his best in "political" Chopin -- Polonaises and Mazurkas.
Wovon man nicht sprechen kann, darüber muss man schweigen

George

Quote from: Mandryka on March 30, 2010, 09:47:59 AM
I think that the 50s set of Mazurkas  is outstanding.

Me too. I got it over the weekend and I love it! 

Verena

QuoteI think that the 50s set of Mazurkas  is outstanding.
Me too. I got it over the weekend and I love it!

Yeah. I love it too. But for me the ideal recording would be the earliest set in the sound of the last set.
Don't think, but look! (PI66)

George

Quote from: Verena on March 30, 2010, 11:17:06 AM
Yeah. I love it too. But for me the ideal recording would be the earliest set in the sound of the last set.

Hi Verena!  :D

I figured I'd have to get that first set at some point. I have all three Nocturnes and prefer the first two to the last one.

Verena

QuoteI figured I'd have to get that first set at some point. I have all three Nocturnes and prefer the first two to the last one.

Hi George!
Yes, the first set is the most exciting and interesting IMO. The only problem, for me, is the sound. I guess the AR edition version is the best. BTW, last year Emi released a newly remastered version of Rubinstein's first Nocturnes set. I don't like the sound on that set - the hiss is almost gone, but in compensation you get sonic artefacts and lose most of Rubinstein's piano tone. But perhaps in a couple of years it will be possible to remaster old recordings to such an extent that the hiss is largely gone, but the tone remains.
Don't think, but look! (PI66)